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[2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36

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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#481 » by Capn'O » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:29 pm

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god shammgod wrote:oh no, we're back to all knox talk


our hopes of moving up were dashed quickly. I'm willing to bet we stay pat with 9 and 36


just take mikal then god dammit


And Jarred Vanderbilt or De'Anthony Melton.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#482 » by newyorker4ever » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:30 pm

Mecca wrote:Watching this live against an ELITE defense




What i would of liked to see in that video is how he was on defense in those last 5 minutes of that close game. I'm not worried about his offense at all really, or not like i worry about how he plays on defense especially in the final minutes of a close game.
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Post#483 » by Fat » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:30 pm

knox gonna go hard in the NBA with more spacing..
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#484 » by KnickLeDime » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:30 pm

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The entire weakness part of the video is what scares the **** out of me. Kid can't create his own shot driving and is nothing more than a spot up shooter and gets beat like a drum off the dribble and pushed off his spots on D.

I'm scared like hell of this kid and his slight frame.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#485 » by robillionaire » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:31 pm

is it a concern that mikal didn't allow to them to take his measurements at the combine. bagley didn't either
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#486 » by Mecca » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:31 pm

I said Tobias blended with Rip... but can't that be Danny Granger best case scenario for Knox?
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#487 » by Br00kLyn » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:32 pm

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just watched some of his highlight videos, im starting to come around
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#488 » by shtolky » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:32 pm

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he's not quick enough to be a 3. he's a 4. but he's the same height as paul george who's quick enough to be a 2. therein lies the problem. that and he'a midrange shooter who is afraid of contact so he tries to rely on floaters near the rim like an undersized guard. people are comparing him to tobias harris favorably ? who the hell would want tobias harris ? the clippers could offer him for free to me and i'd pass unless i could dump a worse contract on them. tobias harris and tim hardaway jr sounds like the kinda medicore team that nightmares are made of.



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Post#489 » by DaGawd » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:32 pm

SmoothLefty21 wrote:I think both Mikal and Bridges will be good pros. We're in a good spot for a change. Will be happy with either player.

Lol we taking knox doe
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Post#490 » by iLovethosedamnknicks » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:32 pm

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Not true, fans talked about KP being a liability on D


In that case they hadn't watched him play. He was a VERY strong defensive prospect.

Exactly. People who hadn't watched him (like that little boy) were upset. Those who had seen him play were thrilled.



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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#491 » by dakomish23 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:33 pm

god shammgod wrote:oh no, we're back to all knox talk


When we take Mikal over Knox, all year long it will be bashing Knox to make Mikal look better.

Just like Frank and DSJ.

It would be hilarious if we did pick Knox. I’d love to see all the people who bashed DSJ suddenly use the opposite arguments to defend the Knox pick.
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Post#492 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:33 pm

Dave DaButcher wrote:According to Pelton's data, the value of the 9th + the 36th pick is 88% of the value of the 4th pick. Since Chandler's contract has such significant negative value, one would think that would be sufficient value to get a deal done with Memphis (assuming the other pieces to make the trade work are acceptable to both parties), without having to include a future first-rounder (or Frank, of course).

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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#493 » by Sark » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:33 pm

I don't know, that "highlight" game against WVU doesn't seem too special. He just runs the break a lot, and hits spot up shots. He gets I think 1 rebound in the video, and then goes up weak with the ball, presumably from getting fouled. The fast breaking is not gonna be available for him in the NBA nearly as much. I guess the best takeaway is that he can hit some spot up shots.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#494 » by SmoothLefty21 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:33 pm

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The entire weakness part of the video is what scares the **** out of me. Kid can't create his own shot driving and is nothing more than a spot up shooter and gets beat like a drum off the dribble and pushed off his spots on D.

I'm scared like hell of this kid and his slight frame.


The take on him has long been that he's an ideal "3 & D guy" though his D is a little overrated IMO. He's also three years older than Knox. Tough decision for the FO.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#495 » by god shammgod » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:34 pm

Capn'O wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
our hopes of moving up were dashed quickly. I'm willing to bet we stay pat with 9 and 36


just take mikal then god dammit


And Jarred Vanderbilt or De'Anthony Melton.


if you think i looked at prospects out of the lottery you're out of your mind, this was enough damn work for me. i'm just gonna shrug and hope for the best.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#496 » by KnickLeDime » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:35 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:


The entire weakness part of the video is what scares the **** out of me. Kid can't create his own shot driving and is nothing more than a spot up shooter and gets beat like a drum off the dribble and pushed off his spots on D.

I'm scared like hell of this kid and his slight frame.


The take on him has long been that he's an ideal "3 & D guy" though his D is a little overrated IMO. He's also three years older than Knox. Tough decision for the FO.


Right...for a guy who's supposed to be a 3 & D, that D part as it pertains to anything other than using his impressive length to block shots is kind of over-rated. Couple that with the fact that he can't make a pullup off the dribble or a floater on the run...leaves him with what?
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#497 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:36 pm

god shammgod wrote:
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he's not quick enough to be a 3. he's a 4. but he's the same height as paul george who's quick enough to be a 2. therein lies the problem. that and he'a midrange shooter who is afraid of contact so he tries to rely on floaters near the rim like an undersized guard. people are comparing him to tobias harris favorably ? who the hell would want tobias harris ? the clippers could offer him for free to me and i'd pass unless i could dump a worse contract on them. tobias harris and tim hardaway jr sounds like the kinda medicore team that nightmares are made of.


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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#498 » by Capn'O » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:36 pm

god shammgod wrote:
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just take mikal then god dammit


And Jarred Vanderbilt or De'Anthony Melton.


if you think i looked at prospects out of the lottery you're out of your mind, this was enough damn work for me. i'm just gonna shrug and hope for the best.


I figured, which is why I included the addendum. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
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Post#499 » by newyorker4ever » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:36 pm

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I mean if they want Knox over Mikal, no reason for the Knicks not to leverage their draft position to try and pick up extra picks. Hope Perry/Mills have the foresight to do it. I'm expecting they stand pat at 9 and 36, tho I'd like to see Lee traded (even if just for a 2nd) to free up minutes for Dot



I've said this before but i'll say again that i'm not sold like some are on S.Perry yet cause he hasn't done anything anywhere he's been to tell me he's gonna be able to build this team the right way. If he sits on his hands and doesn't do anything in this draft but make his picks at 9 and 36 then i'm gonna be somewhat disappointed with that, i'm not gonna hate on him especially if he makes good picks but he has money to buy either a late 1st round pick or 2nd round pick, he has guys like C.Lee and a couple other guys that could be traded in this draft and this team is in the position to take on a bad contract up to 2 years to get a draft pick or picks. So while i'm not gonna be mad if we make two good picks at 9 and 36, i will feel like he didn't show anything in his first draft that tells me he knows how to build a rebuilding team. Make some moves and don't just sit on your hands.


I'm with you, I'd like to see some aggressiveness in the later parts of the first round or high second.



I wanna see something from him to show me he's an active GM and can create a trade or buy another pick, not just sit on his hands and see if teams call him. We need all the draft picks and young players we can get right now.
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Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36 

Post#500 » by nykfan42 » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:37 pm

I'm coming around for Knox, watched some more highlights of the kid. I still want Mikal tho. I'd be happy with either guy.
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