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jermsknicks · Post #481 » by **jermsknicks** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 4:26 am

robillionaire wrote:we should have traded him for lamelo and took toppin as well

Nope, give him an extension soon. Don't want to see him turnout to be another Trevor Ariza.

A pick we got right in the 2nd round, then we see him balling out for years to come on another team.

Mitch game speaks for itself, there is a reason Knick fans love his play no matter what he says in media day. Give him some C. Wood money asap.

Rasho Brezec · Post #482 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 8:44 am

Kyrie Minogue

GEOLINK · Post #483 » by **GEOLINK** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 8:46 am

Werido Kyrie just doing weirdo Kyrie things.

Jalen Bluntson · Post #484 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 11:53 am

Kyrie already a distraction before team practices even start. :lol:

Yeah... it's real cool over in BKN. KD gonna get all of the questions now. He's gonna think it's so cool. Funny thing is...they would have been worshipped in the media. Now...the media is gonna nit pick everything.

knickstape21 · Post #485 » by **knickstape21** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 1:53 pm

Media blackout haha what a weirdo.

Hey Kyrie, hate to break it to ya, but this is just more fuel for media to run with stories you won’t agree with.

KnicksGadfly · Post #486 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 4:32 pm

jermsknicks wrote:
robillionaire wrote:we should have traded him for lamelo and took toppin as well

Nope, give him an extension soon. Don't want to see him turnout to be another Trevor Ariza.

A pick we got right in the 2nd round, then we see him balling out for years to come on another team.

Mitch game speaks for itself, there is a reason Knick fans love his play no matter what he says in media day. Give him some C. Wood money asap.

Lol also Warriors wanted to rape us in the ass. They wanted Mitch, 8th and a future pick. I think if it was a straight up deal, Mitch would be a Warrior right now.

Also not surprised if Mitch goes to another team. This franchise does have a history of playing favorites.

NYKnicksFTW · Post #487 » by **NYKnicksFTW** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 6:29 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:Kyrie already a distraction before team practices even start. Yeah... it's real cool over in BKN. KD gonna get all of the questions now. He's gonna think it's so cool. Funny thing is...they would have been worshipped in the media. Now...the media is gonna nit pick everything.

Can't wait to see the Nets flop just like the Islanders did there

blueNorange · Post #488 » by **blueNorange** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 6:35 pm

that's so dumb of kyrie, the ny media always wins.

but also the first bad nets loss and kyrie's teammates are gonna do the answering for him, that's weak sauce.

Jalen Bluntson · Post #489 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 7:05 pm

NYKnicksFTW wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:Kyrie already a distraction before team practices even start. Yeah... it's real cool over in BKN. KD gonna get all of the questions now. He's gonna think it's so cool. Funny thing is...they would have been worshipped in the media. Now...the media is gonna nit pick everything.

Can't wait to see the Nets flop just like the Islanders did there

Hey...the Islanders have been one of the best NY teams of late. Show some respect! :upset:

Oscirus · Post #490 » by **Oscirus** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 7:16 pm

yea the islanders are the ****. Players eyeing the kyrie sitch, if it works, expect more players to follow suit next year

Jalen Bluntson · Post #491 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 7:38 pm

Oscirus wrote:yea the islanders are the ****. Players eyeing the kyrie sitch, if it works, expect more players to follow suit next year

I doubt this flies very far. I'm just glad it's not our headache. He's going to have to stay healthy to let his play speak for him. The Nets would have been catered to by the media. Used as a rub in the face of the Knicks. Now...he just painted a target on the team. Well done. Very cool.

Spree2Houston · Post #492 » by **Spree2Houston** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 9:00 pm

Nets are going to the Finals this season. I actually see the Celtics and Heat struggle with injuries this year bc of the shortened offseason. Lebron and AD probably only play 50 games this season and don’t finish 1st in the West (more likely 4th or 5th bc of Bron/AD load management). But they’ll still get back to the finals.

Lakers vs Nets finals with Lebron winning his 5th title

iLLmatic860 · Post #493 » by **iLLmatic860** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 9:24 pm

Why does Obi get criticized for being 22 year old rookie when Dame Lillard was a 22 yr old rookie lol

Clyde_Style · Post #494 » by **Clyde_Style** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 10:01 pm

iLLmatic860 wrote:Why does Obi get criticized for being 22 year old rookie when Dame Lillard was a 22 yr old rookie lol

It's instinct for some guys to copy and paste the same arguments about why a player won't cut it. And it's also irrelevant so people pretty much flag themselves as lazy thinkers when they pin their analysis of Obi's downside due to age.

Clyde_Style · Post #495 » by **Clyde_Style** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 10:05 pm

I will now be representing Mitchell Robinson as his new agent.

Mitchell wishes his former agency, The Wasserman Group, all the best and thanks them for all of their efforts on his behalf during their single day of service.

nyk2017 · Post #496 » by **nyk2017** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 10:06 pm

iLLmatic860 wrote:Why does Obi get criticized for being 22 year old rookie when Dame Lillard was a 22 yr old rookie lol

We have drafted so many 18-19 year olds the past few years, that 22 seems old. But in reality, he should develop faster and hopefully by age 25 will warrant an extension and another extension by age 30 taking him to 35 years.

dc · Post #497 » by dc » Sat Dec 5, 2020 11:24 pm

iLLmatic860 wrote:Why does Obi get criticized for being 22 year old rookie when Dame Lillard was a 22 yr old rookie lol

Lillard was seen as a ready made PG out of the box who played 4 years of college ball, and that turned out to be right. He was a starter and impact player from day 1. By his 2nd year, he was hitting clutch shots in the playoffs.

Obi is seen as a 2 year college player of the same age who still needs work.

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #498 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 11:26 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:I will now be representing Mitchell Robinson as his new agent.

Mitchell wishes his former agency, The Wasserman Group, all the best and thanks them for all of their efforts on his behalf during their single day of service.

Which given his propensity for switching of agents should last about 6 months. :biggrin:

B8RcDeMktfxC · Post #499 » by **B8RcDeMktfxC** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 11:44 pm

nyk2017 wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:Why does Obi get criticized for being 22 year old rookie when Dame Lillard was a 22 yr old rookie lol

We have drafted so many 18-19 year olds the past few years, that 22 seems old. But in reality, he should develop faster and hopefully by age 25 will warrant an extension and another extension by age 30 taking him to 35 years.

We did this less than two days ago.

aq_ua wrote:https://towardsdatascience.com/the-asset-of-age-e4b45599ea94

A sobering look at the correlation of age to production (PER) in the NBA.
Our roster is about 2 years younger than the league average, but not tracking to the overall league PER distribution (hence reflected in our record). The data really does point to the need to either keep accumulating opportunities to draft younger players and to go after players (in FA or trade) with higher PERs but in that mid-20s age range (yes, Randle had a 21 PER at age 24 so obviously not a perfect science).

Post #500 » by **Capn'O** » Sun Dec 6, 2020 12:25 am

I really wish we had looked at the young guards that the Nets picked up/resigned. Elie Okobo and Chris Chiozza. Particularly Chiozza. Hard to believe that there wasn't room for guys like that on a rebuilding roster if a contender is still looking at stocking the pool with them.