Woj Kemba buying out of okc signing with NYC

[Fury]

He has torn and missing cartilege in his left knee.

"Kemba Walker's injured knee and the stem cell program he's on to recover from cartilage damage next week after New Year's Day. "

He started getting on Stem Cell Therapy Winter 2020. Managed to get back for the bubble but it flared up again.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ydzur

"Boston Sports Journal’s Dr. Jessica Flynn hinted that Walker is developing arthritis in his left knee following three surgeries and various career steroidal injections. Walker received an injection to address cartilage loss in February. She expected Walker to continue to manage his knee for the rest of his career. Listening to Stevens talk it certainly sounds like the knee is an issue that is going to require maintenance.

“He’s (Walker) working exceptionally hard. The key to this whole thing with him is just strengthening the knee,” Stevens told Ryan and Goodman. “Just continuing to take this opportunity when we’re not playing, when we’re not practicing to really focus on that."

https://www.clnsmedia.com/kemba-walkers-status-uncertain-for-celtics-opening-night/

He was cooked after last Summer and as your recall couldn't get ready for the start of the year.

Again, I don't hate Kemba Walker and it's a low risk move. I'm saying, we aren't one of the 5 best teams in the East, let's play and develop some of these young guards and actually get a Knick draft pick to a second contract.

So if he gets hurt (which is what you think is going to happen), then IQ will get more minutes. What's the issue?

That we could just not sign cooked vets and show confidence in our promising young PG? I mean isn't that pretty obvious.

? It's the same result (in your perspective)

[Jalen Bluntson]

I'm relaxed. It's the other people who think we're getting All-NBA 3rd team Kemba who are emotional. I feel bad for them.

"WE bAcK!" "rEmEmBEr tWo DaYS aGO!"

It shows how deluded and scarred the fan base is. They can't even look at the guys injury history, it would force them to wake up from the dream.

Kind of odd to be calling people deluded sheep, feeling bad for them as clowns and flashing some X-rays that the guy will never walk again. What’s wrong with a little hope. A lot of athletes are moving towards stem cell treatment.

Because thoughts and prayers don't grow cartilage. Because Boston traded him for a wretched contract and had his medicals, they know what the poor guy is dealing with. His left knee is cooked. He's tried everything, I don't doubt his work ethic or competitive spirit. If you have bone bruises its a bad sign, and having less or no cartilage is just never (currently) something that gets better. I'd rather just play the young guards we drafted last year and this year. He'll play 25-30 minutes, get hurt and you'll all act surprised, meanwhile our young players will just drone away on the bench and end up not even getting extensions.

Name the last Knicks draft pick to sign a second contract here?

I think we are in the same page. I'm in no way happy with the way they are building the team. It is clear that they are not using the draft to find a young star. Unless the current draftees become something special...they are betting on RJ and maybe we get lucky with a late pick. Most likely...the 2nd tier youth and future picks will all be available and traded for a disgruntled star. That's the apparent plan. They are also still somewhat flexible to add one in FA.

That said...the path they are taking...seems to be an upgrade. If Kemba can stay healthy...we should have an interesting team. If RJ or any other kid who manages to get minutes...takes another leap...we could be a decent team.

I'm done hoping we draft a stud to add to the mix in the lottery. They clearly aren't going that route and there's nothing I can do about it. Perry and Mills were terrible at roster construction. They didn't commit to youth as promised either...which is what has me so pissed we arent going that route after all. Whatever. Perry with Rose and Co. seem to be better at fitting things together.

Still not a fan of the approach but...if I want to try and enjoy being a fan...I need to suspend some reality. Kinda.like when TWD was a fun show in the begining.

[robillionaire]

Ancient vets? Checks notes. DRose is 32, Walker is 30, Fournier is 28, Burks is 30

people wanted us to sign the decrepit cp3 and lowry to 3 and 4 year deals. these guys are babies compared to them

[K_ick_God]

Mitch and IQ are RJ age and they’ve committed to developing them and did a good job last season. Now we have Grimes and McBride. Oh and everyone seems to forget Obi.

How many young players y’all want? Who do they suppose to learn from?

Yeah this is people sort of ignoring the central issue, which is probably not development coaching as much as avoiding picks like Knox and Frank (which itself is not that super uncommon, though they both seem to be in worse shape than the average pick at their slots). Knicks have def tried to develop young guys.

[F N 11]

our second unit is impressive

And familiar with each other.

[K_ick_God]

Ancient vets? Checks notes. DRose is 32, Walker is 30, Fournier is 28, Burks is 30

people wanted us to sign the decrepit cp3 and lowry to 3 and 4 year deals. these guys are babies compared to them

Babies have a lot of cartilage though.

[3toheadmelo]

Healthy kemba is much better than IQ so I don’t really have an issue if that’s the case

[nedleeds]

I'm curious, what's his incurable knee condition? Does he have a degenerative condition in his knee such as chronic arthritis? I tried to research his injury history and I couldn't find anything outside of a medial meniscus tear a few years ago which required a subsequent arthroscopic procedure to clean up debris a year afterward. Also late last season he had a bone bruise but in the other leg.

Maybe I missed something on the injury history but if it's just a meniscal tear he didn't recover from properly (i.e. came back too early when he should be rehabbing,) than this seems like something he can work through. There's plenty of players that have had meniscal tear like Russell Westbrook and there are also plenty of atheltes that tore their meniscus that just had it removed so they could come back earlier.

I'm just curious about his knee condition(s) because I didn't see anything from a bunch of websites when I tried to research his injury history outside of a meniscal tear in his left knee.

He has torn and missing cartilege in his left knee.

"Kemba Walker's injured knee and the stem cell program he's on to recover from cartilage damage next week after New Year's Day. "

He started getting on Stem Cell Therapy Winter 2020. Managed to get back for the bubble but it flared up again.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ydzur

"Boston Sports Journal’s Dr. Jessica Flynn hinted that Walker is developing arthritis in his left knee following three surgeries and various career steroidal injections. Walker received an injection to address cartilage loss in February. She expected Walker to continue to manage his knee for the rest of his career. Listening to Stevens talk it certainly sounds like the knee is an issue that is going to require maintenance.

“He’s (Walker) working exceptionally hard. The key to this whole thing with him is just strengthening the knee,” Stevens told Ryan and Goodman. “Just continuing to take this opportunity when we’re not playing, when we’re not practicing to really focus on that."

https://www.clnsmedia.com/kemba-walkers-status-uncertain-for-celtics-opening-night/

He was cooked after last Summer and as your recall couldn't get ready for the start of the year.

Again, I don't hate Kemba Walker and it's a low risk move. I'm saying, we aren't one of the 5 best teams in the East, let's play and develop some of these young guards and actually get a Knick draft pick to a second contract.

Thanks for the reply, I didn't see that procedure when I was researching his injury report. I also haven't really been watching him since he started playing for the Celtics so i don't know about any steep decline in his play. I wonder how much cartilage was damaged/torn and what therapeutic intervention(s) he can seek out to manage it for the remainder of his career.

He's tried everything. Again this is a high character, competitor, just like Brandon Roy was. But the progression to bone on bone is inevitable in impact court sports. It's just brutal. Kemba being really herky jerky, and not really playing a finesse game doesn't help either he is a high torque cat quick guard. Similar to Rose actually, though Rose's two footed leaper status makes them different.

There are a bunch of conference finals competitive teams that can desperately use a great shooting functional point guard for 30 minutes. The 76ers, the Celtics, Lakers (pre trade), Mavericks all are better than us and none of them wanted free Kemba? He's likely cooked.

[nedleeds]

Ancient vets? Checks notes. DRose is 32, Walker is 30, Fournier is 28, Burks is 30

people wanted us to sign the decrepit cp3 and lowry to 3 and 4 year deals. these guys are babies compared to them

Babies have a lot of cartilage though.

Stem cells are basically babies in a blender.

[Montmorencie]

The guy was averaging 20 pts per game. In his worst season in his career.

Yep, that's improvement.

[robillionaire]

Several people above are just assmad and pitching a fit because frank is gone, very toxic people, Kemba on one leg would give us a lot more.

[Fury]

He has torn and missing cartilege in his left knee.

"Kemba Walker's injured knee and the stem cell program he's on to recover from cartilage damage next week after New Year's Day. "

He started getting on Stem Cell Therapy Winter 2020. Managed to get back for the bubble but it flared up again.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ydzur

"Boston Sports Journal’s Dr. Jessica Flynn hinted that Walker is developing arthritis in his left knee following three surgeries and various career steroidal injections. Walker received an injection to address cartilage loss in February. She expected Walker to continue to manage his knee for the rest of his career. Listening to Stevens talk it certainly sounds like the knee is an issue that is going to require maintenance.

“He’s (Walker) working exceptionally hard. The key to this whole thing with him is just strengthening the knee,” Stevens told Ryan and Goodman. “Just continuing to take this opportunity when we’re not playing, when we’re not practicing to really focus on that."

https://www.clnsmedia.com/kemba-walkers-status-uncertain-for-celtics-opening-night/

He was cooked after last Summer and as your recall couldn't get ready for the start of the year.

Again, I don't hate Kemba Walker and it's a low risk move. I'm saying, we aren't one of the 5 best teams in the East, let's play and develop some of these young guards and actually get a Knick draft pick to a second contract.

Thanks for the reply, I didn't see that procedure when I was researching his injury report. I also haven't really been watching him since he started playing for the Celtics so i don't know about any steep decline in his play. I wonder how much cartilage was damaged/torn and what therapeutic intervention(s) he can seek out to manage it for the remainder of his career.

He's tried everything. Again this is a high character, competitor, just like Brandon Roy was. But the progression to bone on bone is inevitable in impact court sports. It's just brutal. Kemba being really herky jerky, and not really playing a finesse game doesn't help either he is a high torque cat quick guard. Similar to Rose actually, though Rose's two footed leaper status makes them different.

There are a bunch of conference finals competitive teams that can desperately use a great shooting functional point guard for 30 minutes. The 76ers, the Celtics, Lakers (pre trade), Mavericks all are better than us and none of them wanted free Kemba? He's likely cooked.

The situation with his knee is more like Kobe's knee

[ScienceOfLosing]

Nah, team tank is elated. This is one of those moves where people celebrate now then ask why were giving up 114ppg during the season.


I want Kemba to succeed cause he's from NY, but this is the type of move that can backfire big-time. So it's welcomed with open arms.

Well, first, Kemba ain't getting paid much. If he really sucks, he's getting paid less than Alex Burks and Noel, another of our bench players. If he's really trash, it hurts, but it won't be hard to pivot to Derrick Rose, who has credibility.

Second, I'm looking forward to seeing how Thibs incorporates Kemba and Fournier and produces a top defense. The thing is, we had Elfrid last season who was shyt, so we're basically replacing Bullock with Fournier. This is where Thibs needs to coach. But I don't think that Kemba is that much more shyt than Elfrid that he's going to tank us.

Lastly, I was Team Tank in the past, but it's not happening with Thibs. Thibs will crawl and struggle to squeeze every single win he can, good or bad.

Payton is **** but he's been a better defender the last couple seasons than Kemba, and Fournier is really bad. Like I said, Thibs isn't a magician, there's only so much he can do, case in point that Twolves team he coached to the playoffs was 27th in the league defensively. We're putting everything on RJ to be the guy who takes the toughest matchups now, which was Bullocks job. A bad defensive backcourt can lead to breakdowns all over the floor, and Randle gave up a lot of open threes to stretches so we'll see just how much of a step back we take on D.

Kemba is hometown so I want him to succeed but the fact is his body has been breaking down the last two seasons.

We have more guys to score the ball now, so RJ can better distribute his output to both D and O. I think RJ and Randle, especially Randle, are going to see a downtick in scoring due to our additions.

I know we lost quite a bit on defense going from Payton to Walker/Rose and Bullock to Fournier. But I think having Mitch manning the paint (hopefully he is healthy) is going to make up for most of that loss. Overall though, our team defense is going to be better imo.

We suddenly have a very very deep team, with the same bench as last year, but better now with the 2 rookies who are going to play.

[thebuzzardman]

Basically, we just hope his knees hold up for two years at around 28 mpg and he can play 70 games instead of 82

[TerrenceClarke]

Healthy kemba is much better than IQ so I don’t really have an issue if that’s the case

[F N 11]

If this team buys in and share the ball, it has some serious potential.

[nedleeds]

So if he gets hurt (which is what you think is going to happen), then IQ will get more minutes. What's the issue?

That we could just not sign cooked vets and show confidence in our promising young PG? I mean isn't that pretty obvious.

? It's the same result (in your perspective)

No. Walker will limp through 30-40 games and eat up 20-30 minutes. The young players, will get spot minutes whenever Thibs isn't pitching a fit because they missed one rotation. Then we'll get the coveted 7th seed because Randle and RJ played 44 minutes a game and get **** smoked because he'll have injured Rose, injured Walker and then look over like the dumb ass clown he is and expect New Frank to come in and guard for 40 seconds. It's a clown show trying to grab the back page and please Dolan.

[F N 11]

Basically, we just hope his knees hold up for two years at around 28 mpg and he can play 70 games instead of 82

Split the minutes with Rose. Cant be bad, we have a solid PG in the game at all times.

[K_ick_God]

Just so you guys are aware, one of the things that may be close to a breakthrough is cartilage implants lol. There have been tests already of FDA approved products that some company is putting into people's big toes.

[Fury]

That we could just not sign cooked vets and show confidence in our promising young PG? I mean isn't that pretty obvious.

? It's the same result (in your perspective)

No. Walker will limp through 30-40 games and eat up 20-30 minutes. The young players, will get spot minutes whenever Thibs isn't pitching a fit because they missed one rotation. Then we'll get the coveted 7th seed because Randle and RJ played 44 minutes a game and get **** smoked because he'll have injured Rose, injured Walker and then look over like the dumb ass clown he is and expect New Frank to come in and guard for 40 seconds. It's a clown show trying to grab the back page and please Dolan.

So IQ will get the 2nd half of the year and playoffs, sounds good