ImageImageImageImageImage

PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24

Moderators: j4remi, HerSports85, NoLayupRule, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, dakomish23, Deeeez Knicks, mpharris36

User avatar
ITGM
RealGM
Posts: 19,988
And1: 9,375
Joined: Jan 16, 2008

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#481 » by ITGM » Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:52 am

BKlutch wrote:
2010 wrote:
ITGM wrote:Dick was shooting all blanks tonight... just couldn't keep it up against KAT and the Knicks!


Dick couldn’t beat the KAT.


We didn't let Dick Fuсk us.


Image
Calinks
Forum Mod - Timberwolves
Forum Mod - Timberwolves
Posts: 50,411
And1: 17,370
Joined: Mar 29, 2006
   

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#482 » by Calinks » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:45 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:KAT is awesome. I can't believe that KAT can't handle NYC was a thing. He reps us perfectly.


KAT loves being in NYC

I think he had such roots in Minny that it was a shock to leave there, but there's no doubt he vibes off being in Orange & Blue

Pretty much every knock against him has been false. He is not soft. Guy is leading the league in rebounding. Softies don't do that. And he's not a classic 5 defender, but he actually plays man defense.

I think of him as one of the best shooting PFs I've ever seen. He's not really a center. From that perspective, I think he's legit a great player.

Our roster needs another defender for the paint and that's not a knock on KAT.

HerSports brought up a crazy notion that we should play players to their strengths. What a wacky idea!

Anyway, I think as long as we see KAT for what he really is, a supremely gifted scoring PF, and use him that way, we'll be more than pleased with his role on the team. He's 7 feet tall, but he's really a PF. Tim Duncan had the great fortune to play next to the Admiral. If he hadn't he'd have been called a center, but instead he is remembered as one of the all-time great PFs. That's how I see KAT. We just need a legit defensive C next to him.


I disagree about hom really being a PF. I think center is his true calling. That said,I agree with your first point. KAT seems to be a very big on loyalty and togetherness. He fully bought in and embrace the Minnesota day one and represented the team harder than anyone else. Guy would go on Ebay and snipe rare Timberwolves throwback gear and wear it causally. He goes hard for his team and fanbase. Now thathe's in New York, playing for his home team, he will embrace them 100 percent. He isn't a mercenary just trying to get a bag, he's a knight who will be loyal to a home that believes in him. Knicks made the right move, very few players on his level become available for trades and fewer will fit just as well.
When luck shuts the door skill comes in through the window.
KnixinSix
Head Coach
Posts: 7,188
And1: 3,871
Joined: Jul 27, 2013
Location: In the Spirit
       

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#483 » by KnixinSix » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:49 pm



This is good perspective on KAT/Mitch roles moving forward.

KAT still plays mostly 5(20-25 minutes)but will likely have a few minutes at 4 (8-13 min)to allow an elite rim protector to play the 5 (for 20-28 minutes a game)
New reality of Son ship!
All who receive and believe in Jesus, given the right to become children of God. Not born of flesh, but born of Spirit. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Glory that came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
-John 1
ctorres
RealGM
Posts: 17,790
And1: 6,035
Joined: Jun 04, 2005

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#484 » by ctorres » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:06 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
ctorres wrote:Looking at how Robinson plays, I don't know if it is feasible to play him and Towns together. I don't get the feeling that Towns wants to play the 4 either, he wants to be the 5.



I was looking at the last 10 regular season games that Robinson, Hartenstein, and Achiuwa played last year.

Robinson averaged 15.5 mpg, Hartenstein averaged 27.4 mpg, Achiuwa played 16.6 mpg

More than likely, I expect Towns and Robinson to split minutes at center, with Achiuwa getting 3rd string C minutes and minutes at the 4 spot.


Where do you get Towns "wants" to play the 5 from?

He starts his game at the perimeter as much as any stretch big in the NBA and is essentially positionless on offense

On defense he is hardly a conventional center

His rebounding occurs out of all of that


It took me some digging, but I found the quote.

https://sny.tv/articles/knicks-karl-anthony-towns-center-bucks-best-game

Towns is also playing center regularly again for the first time in two seasons.

He played the five for only five percent of his 2000+ minutes last year; he was mostly lined up at power forward next to Rudy Gobert.

“I don’t just lose the ability to play the five,” Towns said on Friday when asked about being back at center.

The 28-year-old said his strong start this season is “just being able to do what I did a lot of years at the five.”

“I feel I’m a better version of myself,” Towns said. “I’m smarter, more experienced, I think I’m more talented than I’ve ever been. So being able to utilize that for our team is what I want to do every single night so it can translate to wins.”
User avatar
Iron Mantis
RealGM
Posts: 27,448
And1: 28,275
Joined: Aug 12, 2006

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#485 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:17 pm

aggo wrote:Go

Get

KAT

Have the Knicks traded for KAT yet?
Image
Clyde_Style
RealGM
Posts: 71,855
And1: 69,930
Joined: Jul 12, 2009

Re: PG: Knicks vs Raps- 12/9/24 

Post#486 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:05 am

Calinks wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:KAT is awesome. I can't believe that KAT can't handle NYC was a thing. He reps us perfectly.


KAT loves being in NYC

I think he had such roots in Minny that it was a shock to leave there, but there's no doubt he vibes off being in Orange & Blue

Pretty much every knock against him has been false. He is not soft. Guy is leading the league in rebounding. Softies don't do that. And he's not a classic 5 defender, but he actually plays man defense.

I think of him as one of the best shooting PFs I've ever seen. He's not really a center. From that perspective, I think he's legit a great player.

Our roster needs another defender for the paint and that's not a knock on KAT.

HerSports brought up a crazy notion that we should play players to their strengths. What a wacky idea!

Anyway, I think as long as we see KAT for what he really is, a supremely gifted scoring PF, and use him that way, we'll be more than pleased with his role on the team. He's 7 feet tall, but he's really a PF. Tim Duncan had the great fortune to play next to the Admiral. If he hadn't he'd have been called a center, but instead he is remembered as one of the all-time great PFs. That's how I see KAT. We just need a legit defensive C next to him.


I disagree about hom really being a PF. I think center is his true calling. That said,I agree with your first point. KAT seems to be a very big on loyalty and togetherness. He fully bought in and embrace the Minnesota day one and represented the team harder than anyone else. Guy would go on Ebay and snipe rare Timberwolves throwback gear and wear it causally. He goes hard for his team and fanbase. Now thathe's in New York, playing for his home team, he will embrace them 100 percent. He isn't a mercenary just trying to get a bag, he's a knight who will be loyal to a home that believes in him. Knicks made the right move, very few players on his level become available for trades and fewer will fit just as well.


He's a good person. Easy to root for

Return to New York Knicks