PG: Saved By The KAT

[HopelessKnick]

BTW looking at all these playoff series I feel like the level of play in our series is close to the worst. I don't know how many teams in these playoffs have played worse....Memphis probably and that's it. Maybe the Rockets too.

I honestly feel like the Knicks are in reality somewhere around 10th best team in the league. After finishing the Pistons I'm really looking forward to the Celtics series to see whether I'm wrong or not. I hope I'm wrong but we look terrible more often than not. Essentially we only have 2 reliable shot makers. Bridges and OG are so on and off it is crazy and we really don't generate many open looks. No creativity on offense, everything coming the hard way.

Ridiculously stupid take..are you not seeing the kind of defense detroit is playing? Are you not see the way the refs are allowing them to play that way. Lastly, to not see the shot making by Brunson and KAT today and make this stupid post. This is a throwback physical series, no it’s not beautiful but doesn’t mean the level of play isn’t high

Are you dumb or what? Is this your first time watching a playoff series? Because you sure sound like a 6 year old who was allowed to watch the playoffs for the first time.....You know nothing about basketball really. .."Moma the big bad mean Pistons are being allowed to play physical with us....that's why we struggle to win a single game convincingly against Tobias Harris, Hardaway jr. and Schroeder and the big bad Beasly coming off the bench."

You have no clue dude.

[Clyde_Style]

The only issue is that by the time you figure out he’s “not” he’s already committed a ton of blunders that can cost you the game and when you look at our margin for error it’s pretty slim

Mitch, I dunno. Someone do a spell or ritual. But we need him to put the pieces together quick

He can trial Cam for a few minutes so he can do the same with Precious

We wouldn't even be talking about this if Mitch wasn't so bad right now. You see it. You're not disputing it.

Well the “he’s sick” excuse has been run out there (he was questionable to play) and our best chance going forward might be hoping he gets right rather than pulling the plug. He’s had a couple really tough outings for sure though

It's not like Mitch has to DNP, but FFS be a little strategic for once if his sickness is temporarily holding him back. Not asking for much here

[HopelessKnick]

It's honestly disrespectful to Precious after what he gave us most of the year. The guy had some big games in the regular season and doesn't deserve to be treated like a g league player by Thibs. Especially when Mitch is playing like garbage.

This is the issue with Thibs:

1. He can game plan to some extent. He did prove this in Game 3 by having Brunson use his ability to draw doubles and triples to create space for his teammates. It resulted in a better distribution of touches and a more coherent offense.

2. He cannot adjust during the game. Thibs is usually woeful at in-game refinements. Not going to go into it as everyone here has discussed it ad nauseum.

However, NOT playing Precious at all in this series also mitigates the positives in # 1, because it appears he has already made up his mind before the games to stick with Mitch at all costs even when he is truly awful.

There is no excuse for Thibs at this point. He's strictly an organization builder, but he is a very weak situational coach.

i've been giving thought to how this can be the case for a man with his bbiq and zeal for winning. my conclusion is that it's the other side of the coin: he invests so much in prep and study that he insists upon the gameplan no matter what the game tells him in real time. guess that's a roundabout way of concluding he is stubborn, including the "why"

It's mostly how they used to coach in the 90s. Like tight rotations, drop coverage, iso-ball, protect the paint, play the starters high minutes, play through everything, be tough, the answer to everything "more rebounding" etc. etc. Thibs coaching is like watching someone from the 90s coach.

You can see it in the post-game interviews as well.

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BTW looking at all these playoff series I feel like the level of play in our series is close to the worst. I don't know how many teams in these playoffs have played worse....Memphis probably and that's it. Maybe the Rockets too.

I honestly feel like the Knicks are in reality somewhere around 10th best team in the league. After finishing the Pistons I'm really looking forward to the Celtics series to see whether I'm wrong or not. I hope I'm wrong but we look terrible more often than not. Essentially we only have 2 reliable shot makers. Bridges and OG are so on and off it is crazy and we really don't generate many open looks. No creativity on offense, everything coming the hard way.

Ridiculously stupid take..are you not seeing the kind of defense detroit is playing? Are you not see the way the refs are allowing them to play that way. Lastly, to not see the shot making by Brunson and KAT today and make this stupid post. This is a throwback physical series, no it’s not beautiful but doesn’t mean the level of play isn’t high

Are you dumb or what? Is this your first time watching a playoff series? Because you sure sound like a 6 year old who was allowed to watch the playoffs for the first time.....You know nothing about basketball really. .."Moma the big bad mean Pistons are being allowed to play physical with us....that's why we struggle to win a single game convincingly against Tobias Harris, Hardaway jr. and Schroeder and the big bad Beasly coming off the bench."

You have no clue dude.

Knicks fan since 1982..have watched more knicks basketball than your days on earth Im sure of it. Again as stupid as a take as this is, you I’m sure were not alive in the 1990’s when the knicks would win playoff games scoring in the 70’s. I bet you would have said while knicks were in the nba finals or ecf they are the 10th best team..again I stand by your ridiculously stupid take

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JJ should be fired..am I right?

Man, he tried to make the best out of that roster. He played the 5 players he deemed were playable in the playoffs.

Gabe Vincent, Jarred Vanderbuilt, and Jordan Goodwin offered nothing offensively. I thought they would do more going into the playoffs, but they're not difference makers. Thibs probably wouldn't play them either.

Dalton Knetcht is too much of a liability defensively.

Jaxson Hayes offered nothing.

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Brunson carried them there though. KAT has to play way smarter but so happy he came through in the end!

If Kat could take the first step and work on some sort of mental programming where he repeats to himself - “you will no longer make silly fouls, you kill our team when you do that” he needs to drill this into his soul!
That would be a great start Calinks!

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[HopelessKnick]

Ridiculously stupid take..are you not seeing the kind of defense detroit is playing? Are you not see the way the refs are allowing them to play that way. Lastly, to not see the shot making by Brunson and KAT today and make this stupid post. This is a throwback physical series, no it’s not beautiful but doesn’t mean the level of play isn’t high

Are you dumb or what? Is this your first time watching a playoff series? Because you sure sound like a 6 year old who was allowed to watch the playoffs for the first time.....You know nothing about basketball really. .."Moma the big bad mean Pistons are being allowed to play physical with us....that's why we struggle to win a single game convincingly against Tobias Harris, Hardaway jr. and Schroeder and the big bad Beasly coming off the bench."

You have no clue dude.

Knicks fan since 1982..have watched more knicks basketball than your days on earth Im sure of it. Again as stupid as a take as this is, you I’m sure were not alive in the 1990’s when the knicks would win playoff games scoring in the 70’s. I bet you would have said while knicks were in the nba finals or ecf they are the 10th best team..again I stand by your ridiculously stupid take

LOL, stop lying, no one believes you. Crying about the big bad Pistons being allowed to bully the Knicks, that's why they are playing so bad. That's such a ridiculously **** take it is embarassing. Stop embarassing yourself and go to sleep now. School is around the corner and you need your 8 hours of sleep. I stand by this being the first playoff series you are witnessing. No other way you could blame "the moma they allowed to play that tough defense" nonsense otherwise. What a loser's take.

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Detroit is done. The refs let them get away with murder and they still couldn't win.

It’s good to see a Knick fan say this because I don’t understand the time being spent on the final play.
Our Knick’s were getting mauled with fouls Dollas…

[DE FENSE]

Imagine if we had an above average coach with this roster? ECF would be promised.

Instead we have the dude who runs a Brunson isolation out of a timeout in crunch time.

Everything we get is from pure talent on the floor. Any coach would get the same results, if not better.

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Nothing like seeing Bickerstaff having a meltdown

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His dumb ass should have saved his challenge for the fourth quarter!!! He needs to be in front of a mirror throwing that fit! Lmao!

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JJ should be fired..am I right?

He shouldn't be fired for that but with how tired that group looked at times in the 4th and the fact they got outscored 32-19 maybe he should have found a way to find a little break for some of those guys even if the bench wasn't offering much.

[HopelessKnick]

Imagine if we had an above average coach with this roster? ECF would be promised.

Instead we have the dude who runs a Brunson isolation out of a timeout in crunch time.

Everything we get is from pure talent on the floor. Any coach would get the same results, if not better.

100%.

Just thinking that this could have easily been 2-2 if the Hart foul was called. It's embarassing as **** really. Detroit first leading 6 out of 8 quarters in MSG and here we could have easily lost both games as well. Really we haven't played a single convincing game. Brunson again saving Thibs---nothing else really.

Just keep in mind that Detroit is without Ivey and their best frontcourt defender in Stewart. A mid-team without their second best player and strongest frontcourt defender and we still can't win a single game convincingly. It's really embarassing.

I took the Knicks in 5 but would have never thought that it would look like this.

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JJ should be fired..am I right?

He shouldn't be fired for that but with how tired that group looked at times in the 4th and the fact they got outscored 32-19 maybe he should have found a way to find a little break for some of those guys even if the bench wasn't offering much.

lebron wont let the others play if he deems they wont be of any help. He (lebron) is the coach, after all

[ctorres]

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Yes

[HopelessKnick]

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Yes

The degree of difficulty was much higher....but both were great shots really.

[Enzo954]

Towns 3 point shot is wet. That guy's almost always 5 feet behind the line also.

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[Adelheid]

karl anthony towns has freaky range...he is like, fat steph curry

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Look at our boy cam Payne bullying mikal into making 3s

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His pr rep mp and now his boy came going in on him. nothing left to do now but to step up.

Ngl though, I like how he doesn't let his poor shooting deter him from stepping up on defense. I fck with that.