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What's going to hurt the defendant is that 2 of her "girls" are going to basically be testifying against her that she was cognizant the night of (not incapacitated as she claims) and that she said 'no' that she wasn't raped and changed her mind only after deciding to file a civil suit years later.
            
                                    
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moocow007 wrote:What's going to hurt the defendant is that 2 of her "girls" are going to basically be testifying against her that she was cognizant the night of (not incapacitated as she claims) and that she said 'no' that she wasn't raped and changed her mind only after deciding to file a civil suit years later.
if the deleting & hiding texts stuff is real, her case is done imo. there were already inconsistencies and lies in her story. even if judge continues on with trial. anything else is just icing on cake for rose, but also waste of his time and costing him valuable time with the team. i think he can fly back and join the team after tomorrow if he wanted, he'll be done testifying. but, it'd probably be wise at this point to see it through to the end for good measure.
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Swoosh_Stripes wrote:trophywinner wrote:Swoosh_Stripes wrote:
Texts from that night, we're limiting it to that now? How about the countless texts where she keeps stating that she's not comfortable with group sex and she only wants to be with him, I guess those don't matter.
As for Rose's actions being normal, please spare me, I know plenty of pro athletes, baseball to be exact (who are the most notorious cheaters in pro sports), not one of them has ever asked for a woman to let them run a train on them. But lets assume this is normal, when asked if she consented and you answer "she was coming to my place at 1AM she knew what was going to happen", that's a bad look and I doubt it plays well in a court.
yup, they don't matter. rose broke off the relationship when he sensed she wasn't completely down with the groupsex thing. he had cut communication. Doe was the one who reached out and opened with
women get train ran on them all the time, wake up. and you should probably read up more on the details, m8. how mad are you right now?
The texts you posted was her telling him she only wants to have sex with him and not his boys, which is what I have been saying all along, so thanks for confirming what I have been saying all along. As for women having trains ran on them I'm well aware that happens, but how does that relate to this case?
By the way, you're confusing being disgusted with anger, like I said from the get go, I don't know if he raped her, but what is being posted here is very primitive thinking about rape and sexuality assault victims. This whole notion that she's a freak so she couldn't be raped is ass backwards.
the "be less selfish with her punani" sounds to me like she's saying she'd be up for the train next time around. If not, how is her just wanting him being selfish? She's saying ok to the upcoming gangbang.
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NYKAL wrote:Swoosh_Stripes wrote:trophywinner wrote:
yup, they don't matter. rose broke off the relationship when he sensed she wasn't completely down with the groupsex thing. he had cut communication. Doe was the one who reached out and opened with
women get train ran on them all the time, wake up. and you should probably read up more on the details, m8. how mad are you right now?
The texts you posted was her telling him she only wants to have sex with him and not his boys, which is what I have been saying all along, so thanks for confirming what I have been saying all along. As for women having trains ran on them I'm well aware that happens, but how does that relate to this case?
By the way, you're confusing being disgusted with anger, like I said from the get go, I don't know if he raped her, but what is being posted here is very primitive thinking about rape and sexuality assault victims. This whole notion that she's a freak so she couldn't be raped is ass backwards.
the "be less selfish with her punani" sounds to me like she's saying she'd be up for the train next time around. If not, how is her just wanting him being selfish? She's saying ok to the upcoming gangbang.
The whole quote is "I guess I have to be less selfish with my P###y next time" its not exactly consenting especially in the eyes of the law. But even if she said yes on a text message, she is definitely free to change her mind at any point and time.
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Your right it's not, but being that there is no truth about the rape itself they're basically going off of was he,along with his friends,  invited to the house for the sex? As of right now all the signs are pointing to YES! She stated that she was drugged, there's text showing that she bought her own. The only thing is Rose told her he would pay her back for the sex toys and pay for the ride back home in-which he didn't and that she wasn't happy about him not having sex with her friend. There are no signs leading to she got raped. Her roommates said that she was fine that night and nothing was suspicious, and the same goes for the day after. Doe even contacted Rose the next day as if nothing ever happened. This is a case of you want a star but the star doesn't want you and they need to throw this Sh!+ out.
            
                                    
                                    
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malik959 wrote:Your right it's not, but being that there is no truth about the rape itself they're basically going off of was he,along with his friends, invited to the house for the sex? As of right now all the signs are pointing to YES! She stated that she was drugged, there's text showing that she bought her own. The only thing is Rose told her he would pay her back for the sex toys and pay for the ride back home in-which he didn't and that she wasn't happy about him not having sex with her friend. There are no signs leading to she got raped. Her roommates said that she was fine that night and nothing was suspicious, and the same goes for the day after. Doe even contacted Rose the next day as if nothing ever happened. This is a case of you want a star but the star doesn't want you and they need to throw this Sh!+ out.
Yeah I mean who knows what happened exactly and I'm sure Derrick Rose isn't the type of guy that you want to go to church with but this case has the feel of someone that is just trying to dig for some gold.
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It depends on what the new text said. They could have done it "accidentally, on purpose" as a way to backdoor new evidence in front of the jury without Rose's lawyers being able to prepare for it.
They are banking that the Judge won't grant a mistrial.
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It depends on what the new text said. They could have done it "accidentally, on purpose" as a way to backdoor new evidence in front of the jury without Rose's lawyers being able to prepare for it.
They are banking that the Judge won't grant a mistrial.
Unless it's a hugely important text that changes everything, I doubt they have a retrial.
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Johnny Firpo wrote:To be honest, it's completely possible that she likes sex, likes drugs, often lies, was even down to sex on this instance, and still ended up being raped. If she was unconscious, it doesn't matter that she used a double dildo on herself and consumed an 8-ball before she passed out, that's still rape.
end of story.
we'll see what comes out in court. she very well could be making it all up for a payday. but people making it sound like she's "unrapeable" because she might be a freak. so what?
some of y'all's lack of understanding of the concept of rape is highly alarming.
if you hit it while she's passed out, you raped. if she didn't "give it up" and acknowledge the act, you raped. oh, and if you tag in a homie in the middle of the act without acknowledging that, you raped.
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Knickstape1214 wrote:GONYK wrote:moocow007 wrote:
wow indeed if true.
It depends on what the new text said. They could have done it "accidentally, on purpose" as a way to backdoor new evidence in front of the jury without Rose's lawyers being able to prepare for it.
They are banking that the Judge won't grant a mistrial.
Unless it's a hugely important text that changes everything, I doubt they have a retrial.
if the judge thinks they were trying to pull some tom & jerry schidt, it's getting shot down like level 1 duck hunt.

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GONYK wrote:moocow007 wrote:
wow indeed if true.
It depends on what the new text said. They could have done it "accidentally, on purpose" as a way to backdoor new evidence in front of the jury without Rose's lawyers being able to prepare for it.
They are banking that the Judge won't grant a mistrial.
regarding text, the accuser gets mad at derrick for not having sex with her friend as well (the friend she took with her to rose's house).
so much for her not being for group sex, and it also makes rose's account that they all had sex at his home before going over to doe's apt, more believable. and this:
it's looking now like the friend got mad & left because she got no play.
i think main reason why rose's team motioned for mistrial is because they question the mostly female/hispanic jury.
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Last time I checked you can get text messages from your cell company.
            
                                    
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Jeff Van Gully wrote:end of story.
we'll see what comes out in court. she very well could be making it all up for a payday. but people making it sound like she's "unrapeable" because she might be a freak. so what?
some of y'all's lack of understanding of the concept of rape is highly alarming.
if you hit it while she's passed out, you raped. if she didn't "give it up" and acknowledge the act, you raped. oh, and if you tag in a homie in the middle of the act without acknowledging that, you raped.
rose's account has been pretty detailed, super blunt with specifics and everything. + the texts, the text of doe asking why he had her bring a friend and not have sex with her too. then her other friend who will testify that doe flat out denied rape when asked. he doesn't strike as the most creative/imaginative person. i'm more inclined to take what he says as facts.
^that's not rape. if she was handing out orders and orchestrating the gangbang, no, that's not rape.
^that account also falls in line with her roommate's who said she saw guys sitting on the couch when she arrived before going off to her room.
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trophywinner wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:end of story.
we'll see what comes out in court. she very well could be making it all up for a payday. but people making it sound like she's "unrapeable" because she might be a freak. so what?
some of y'all's lack of understanding of the concept of rape is highly alarming.
if you hit it while she's passed out, you raped. if she didn't "give it up" and acknowledge the act, you raped. oh, and if you tag in a homie in the middle of the act without acknowledging that, you raped.
rose's account has been pretty detailed, super blunt with specifics and everything. + the texts, the text of doe asking why he had her bring a friend and not have sex with her too. then her other friend who will testify that doe flat out denied rape when asked. he doesn't strike as the most creative/imaginative person. i'm more inclined to take what he says as facts.
^that's not rape. if she was handing out orders and orchestrating the gangbang, no, that's not rape.
^that account also falls in line with her roommate's who said she saw guys sitting on the couch when she arrived before going off to her room.
you are presenting this to me to discuss the case when i explicitly said i am not talking about the case. i have no skin in that game. i don't know what happened. i'm fine with trusting the legal system on this one.
i was talking about some comments here that seem to not grasp the definition of rape.
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she might as well go be a pornstar
            
                                    
                                    
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Jeff Van Gully wrote:Johnny Firpo wrote:
if you hit it while she's passed out, you raped. if she didn't "give it up" and acknowledge the act, you raped. oh, and if you tag in a homie in the middle of the act without acknowledging that, you raped.
If she is passed out is it possible for her to know you tagged your bro? If she's going in and out of consciousness does she have the ability to stop you? The answer is most likely no.
Her level of intoxication cannot be tested and that's a key piece of evidence. Texting Rose the next day as if nothing happened could be her being okay about everything or not remembering everything. I don't think it's possible we'll ever know.
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NYKnickerbocker wrote:she might as well go be a pornstar
She's essentially a pornstar crying rape afterwards
As Donald Trump would say, "This trial has become a complete disaster, I can tell you that."
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