Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8
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OMG THAT BLUR IN TRANSITION

B: Donte | Sasser | Rozier
B: J. Green | I. Okoro | J. Hawkins
B: Mikal Bridges | B. Hield | C. LeVert
B: Zion | D. Jones Jr
B: KP | J. Huff
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Jeff Van Gully wrote:whocares1 wrote:NYKnicksTAPE wrote:I thought u trusted in Gaines tho
if DSJr isn't the guy then it is what it is, they have more information on him then we ever will
Or he doesn't fit our system because his talent is as obvious as it comes.
KP is no one's prototypical triangle player, but he's here. no big butt. not a great passer. just a freak talent.
so, let's not suggest ideal triangle fit is and has been all that matters.
Dont forget that during the KP draft, there was talk that Phil was thinking about trading down ffor the Suns pick and Bledsoe. Then last year we traded for Derrick Rose. So if he was willing to acquire those guys then I see no reason why we would pass on DSJr for style of play or triangle fit. If we do pass on him it will likely be because of something else.
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3toheadmelo wrote:eagle54 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Sigh
I never said he doesn't have the potential to be more than a 3 and D guard. Read my previous posts. I clearly said he could be the Kawhi/Giannis of point guards. Will I bet on him reaching that potential? Nah.
He's a 3 and D guard RIGHT NOW.
And frank wouldn't be able to produce numbers even if he was asked to. His raw offense is blatant
You never say that but you troll about him every timeSo if we are agree right now about his role, maybe you understand that I say when I compare the role of Klay in this finales like him with SIG, not compare the player but the role.
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Just for precision he's use like a 3 and D guard but this year Collet give him a more offensive role in SR in somes games. But clearly in this PO he give offense role to confirm players and want Frank stop the best scorer guard opponent. But he can clearly score more if he give this role.
I take shots at frank cause it's all jokes
Like I said I have my preferences, but if we pick him im rooting for him.
Klays role is to score and play D. You're telling me franks role is to play D but without scoring. Ok.
Klays role has been the same all season long. And he even had a career high in his scoring average. If klay can do it then frank can right?
it's I try to say you, frank can do to. If you look SIg game even if he's free, he receive rarely the ball. But during the winter, they had injury in SIg so he have more responsability and score 15-17 pts... So yes not a first option but he can but efficient in 3 rd option for example. And he's 18 so he have time to work his shoot and progress, he already a shot, so it's more "easy" to improve it than learn how to shot.
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Anyone complaining about the NBA should just watch this game and see how disgusting basketball is, I appreciate the competitiveness though unlike NBA all games can go both ways, very hard to tell who will win, besides this game maybe
http://www.streamfoot.org/channel2.html
http://www.streamfoot.org/channel2.html

B: Donte | Sasser | Rozier
B: J. Green | I. Okoro | J. Hawkins
B: Mikal Bridges | B. Hield | C. LeVert
B: Zion | D. Jones Jr
B: KP | J. Huff
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Jeff Van Gully wrote:whocares1 wrote:NYKnicksTAPE wrote:I thought u trusted in Gaines tho
if DSJr isn't the guy then it is what it is, they have more information on him then we ever will
Or he doesn't fit our system because his talent is as obvious as it comes.
KP is no one's prototypical triangle player, but he's here. no big butt. not a great passer. just a freak talent.
so, let's not suggest ideal triangle fit is and has been all that matters.
Porzingis isn't a point guard that controls tempo. He plays better off ball movement and needs others to create looks for him. He still fits in the triangle. Dennis obviously has the talent, but his mindset appears to be a lead guard that controls the offense and that's a no no for Phil.
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COACH YELLING WHY ARE YOU HERE LOL

B: Donte | Sasser | Rozier
B: J. Green | I. Okoro | J. Hawkins
B: Mikal Bridges | B. Hield | C. LeVert
B: Zion | D. Jones Jr
B: KP | J. Huff
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TheBigBoss wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:whocares1 wrote:
Or he doesn't fit our system because his talent is as obvious as it comes.
KP is no one's prototypical triangle player, but he's here. no big butt. not a great passer. just a freak talent.
so, let's not suggest ideal triangle fit is and has been all that matters.
Dont forget that during the KP draft, there was talk that Phil was thinking about trading down ffor the Suns pick and Bledsoe. Then last year we traded for Derrick Rose. So if he was willing to acquire those guys then I see no reason why we would pass on DSJr for style of play or triangle fit. If we do pass on him it will likely be because of something else.
Hopefully you're rite.
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What a blowout lol 22-3

B: Donte | Sasser | Rozier
B: J. Green | I. Okoro | J. Hawkins
B: Mikal Bridges | B. Hield | C. LeVert
B: Zion | D. Jones Jr
B: KP | J. Huff
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whocares1 wrote:GONYK wrote:blueNorange wrote:lol if phil passes on dsj it's because dsj didn't impress them at all.
Or because they don't like that he quit on his team
Or because he's out here preaching how effective he can be in the pick and roll which to me is telling Phil he doesn't want to be here either.
Reminds me of Mudiay when he was "receptive" to playing in the triangle, but then was later quoted saying that he was glad he wasn't selected by the Knicks.
Or because he told Phil he'd love to play with Melo. Phil probably choked on his food when he said that....
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2010 wrote:Capn'O wrote:2010 wrote:
Worked perfectly! Patronizing wordplay that doesn't offend to the point of butthurtedness.
Whatevs. I'm back on the upside train. It's a mad, mad league we're playing in these days. It's YOLO or go home. I'm rollin' the dice on the Frenchman!
If we can find a way to nab another 1st rounder and select either Donovan Mitchell or OG Anunoby then I am back aboard the F-train.
You remind of my peoples that used to tell shorties he got the Benz Wagon outside when was we in the Tunnel to bag them. Then when we got outside he be like Yo someone stole my schit.
Stop Fronting Sun.
You on the F Train. You just want to wear Sunglasses and act like nobody recognizes you.
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TheBigBoss wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:whocares1 wrote:
Or he doesn't fit our system because his talent is as obvious as it comes.
KP is no one's prototypical triangle player, but he's here. no big butt. not a great passer. just a freak talent.
so, let's not suggest ideal triangle fit is and has been all that matters.
Dont forget that during the KP draft, there was talk that Phil was thinking about trading down ffor the Suns pick and Bledsoe. Then last year we traded for Derrick Rose. So if he was willing to acquire those guys then I see no reason why we would pass on DSJr for style of play or triangle fit. If we do pass on him it will likely be because of something else.
Rumors are just that...rumors. Derrick Rose was chosen because he was a low risk high reward move and was one of the only available guards in the trade market that the Knicks could acquire. DSJ is a lot more similar to a John Wall, Chris Paul, Westbrook type point guard that orchestrates the offense.
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IllmaticHandler wrote:Nyk_Fatboy wrote:IllmaticHandler wrote:
Thats the obvious part. But I have to agree with other posters he has the ball so much that is why he has those assists. Not sure if he is looking to playmake ...thats a skill. Giving the ball up cause you are swarmed is not a skill.I mean JR Smith has avg 3 assists a game before...
He"s 20 and had to carry the load on his team y'all act like he is a fully developed player in his prime.
Ask the suns board if he"s shown to be a willing passer
My dude Im not acting like anything. I already stated I think he is a good player. All I am saying that he is a one trick Pony untill he proves others wise. Those Assist numbers don't change "all he does is score" right now for me.
Numbers ain't everything especially not with young players.
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El Poochio wrote:Anyone complaining about the NBA should just watch this game and see how disgusting basketball is, I appreciate the competitiveness though unlike NBA all games can go both ways, very hard to tell who will win, besides this game maybe
http://www.streamfoot.org/channel2.html
Is this the best team in that League?
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Nyk_Fatboy wrote:IllmaticHandler wrote:Nyk_Fatboy wrote:
He"s 20 and had to carry the load on his team y'all act like he is a fully developed player in his prime.
Ask the suns board if he"s shown to be a willing passer
My dude Im not acting like anything. I already stated I think he is a good player. All I am saying that he is a one trick Pony untill he proves others wise. Those Assist numbers don't change "all he does is score" right now for me.
Numbers ain't everything especially not with young players.
We agree there.
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El Poochio wrote:What a blowout lol 22-3
who's winning?
Mavs
C: Horford | Goga | Paul Reed |
PF: Lauri Markkanen | Randle | Tucker
SF: Trey Murphy | Trent | Anderson | Simone
SG: Vassell | Trent | Livingston
PG: Spida | Mann | Deuce
C: Horford | Goga | Paul Reed |
PF: Lauri Markkanen | Randle | Tucker
SF: Trey Murphy | Trent | Anderson | Simone
SG: Vassell | Trent | Livingston
PG: Spida | Mann | Deuce
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Deeeez Knicks wrote:spree8 wrote:I have a strange feeling DSJr is going to drop the same way guys like Pierce & Caron Butler did, and Phil won't take him. It sucks, but I just don't see it... I think Frank is our guy, and now that he's not going to have a chance to impress during workouts or meetings with any team above us, I think it's close to a lock. Only other guy I see Phil possibly taking is Monk... I hate when reality starts to set in.![]()
I like Frank, but not over DSJr. Hope I'm wrong.
I think there's a pretty good chance DSJ will be there for us. The Suns taking Isaac, or Philly trading down for Monk would open things up for DSJ to drop...a few other scenarios where he would be there.
Wouldn't be surprised either way if we take or pass on DSJ
There's only 3 guys in this draft that i don't think there's any chance of being there at 8 which of course are Fultz, Ball, Jackson. I can see D.Fox, J.Tatum, J.Isaac and any of the others being there at 8.
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IllmaticHandler wrote:2010 wrote:Capn'O wrote:
Whatevs. I'm back on the upside train. It's a mad, mad league we're playing in these days. It's YOLO or go home. I'm rollin' the dice on the Frenchman!
If we can find a way to nab another 1st rounder and select either Donovan Mitchell or OG Anunoby then I am back aboard the F-train.
You remind of my peoples that used to tell shorties he got the Benz Wagon outside when was we in the Tunnel to bag them. Then when we got outside he be like Yo someone stole my schit.![]()
Stop Fronting Sun.
You on the F Train. You just want to wear Sunglasses and act like nobody recognizes you.

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:El Poochio wrote:What a blowout lol 22-3
who's winning?
The other team.
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8
IllmaticHandler wrote:El Poochio wrote:Anyone complaining about the NBA should just watch this game and see how disgusting basketball is, I appreciate the competitiveness though unlike NBA all games can go both ways, very hard to tell who will win, besides this game maybe
http://www.streamfoot.org/channel2.html
Is this the best team in that League?
Probably, they are the #2 seed and have DPOY and scoring leader of the league, 3 of their players finished in top 5 for MVP

B: Donte | Sasser | Rozier
B: J. Green | I. Okoro | J. Hawkins
B: Mikal Bridges | B. Hield | C. LeVert
B: Zion | D. Jones Jr
B: KP | J. Huff
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whocares1 wrote:NYKnicksTAPE wrote:Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
They both have us passing on dsjr.
If phil passes on dsjr if he's still their i may just give up on him.
I thought u trusted in Gaines tho
if DSJr isn't the guy then it is what it is, they have more information on him then we ever will
Or he doesn't fit our system because his talent is as obvious as it comes.
This is the part that bothers me cause when Phil leaves i'm pretty sure the triangle leaves with him. I still understand why he'd want to draft a guy that fits the triangle since he's still got two years but he should at least consider what's best not only for the triangle but what's best for the Knicks after he's gone.










