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College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!!

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Who do you take at 5???

Garland
27
33%
Reddish
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27%
Clarke
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4%
Hunter
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Hayes
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Coby
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1%
Rui
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4%
Romeo
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Bol
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Other
6
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Re: College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!! 

Post#501 » by DOT » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:47 pm

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K-DOT wrote:I don't even like Sekou, but that's the worst argument against taking a player I ever heard

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Teams do that if they don't have good history from certain country and those players they selected haven;t done well they black list them from that team. I give you example my football team is the carolina panthers i will say about 10 years we selected couple guys from usc trojans team, those wide reciever kerry colber and dwayne jarret were bust picks, ever since that time the carolina panthers never select anybody from usc trojans. The panthers never go send there scouts to usc because they don't have a good track record because of there bad history selecting picks from that team, is it the right thing do probably not but when you have bad history it comes back to haunt you.

Also lets face it the knicks organization doesn't have a good history with international players there either good players with bad attitudes kanter ,kp or there a disaster selection willy gomez, and frank nitkinia.
So you're telling me, that if Zion Williamson was born in France, you wouldn't draft him.

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Re: College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!! 

Post#502 » by taj2133 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:49 pm

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K-DOT wrote:I don't even like Sekou, but that's the worst argument against taking a player I ever heard

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Teams do that if they don't have good history from certain country and those players they selected haven;t done well they black list them from that team. I give you example my football team is the carolina panthers i will say about 10 years we selected couple guys from usc trojans team, those wide reciever kerry colber and dwayne jarret were bust picks, ever since that time the carolina panthers never select anybody from usc trojans. The panthers never go send there scouts to usc because they don't have a good track record because of there bad history selecting picks from that team, is it the right thing do probably not but when you have bad history it comes back to haunt you.
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I agree with you its terrible logic but like said before you can't keep selecting those players from certain team or certain country and organization has a bad history with past selection.
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Post#503 » by taj2133 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:53 pm

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taj2133 wrote:Teams do that if they don't have good history from certain country and those players they selected haven;t done well they black list them from that team. I give you example my football team is the carolina panthers i will say about 10 years we selected couple guys from usc trojans team, those wide reciever kerry colber and dwayne jarret were bust picks, ever since that time the carolina panthers never select anybody from usc trojans. The panthers never go send there scouts to usc because they don't have a good track record because of there bad history selecting picks from that team, is it the right thing do probably not but when you have bad history it comes back to haunt you.

Also lets face it the knicks organization doesn't have a good history with international players there either good players with bad attitudes kanter ,kp or there a disaster selection willy gomez, and frank nitkinia.
So you're telling me, that if Zion Williamson was born in France, you wouldn't draft him.

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I would select zion even if he was from france but certain teams that don't have a good history with international players probably wouldn't it makes you think if you had few bust picks.
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Re: College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!! 

Post#504 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:02 pm

taj2133 wrote:
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taj2133 wrote:We aren't picking another kid from france sorry sekou the knicks don't have good track record with players from france frank and weis. Perry and especially mills there are very unlikely to pick player from france knowing the knicks track record they been fooled to many times.
I don't even like Sekou, but that's the worst argument against taking a player I ever heard

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Teams do that if they don't have good history from certain country and those players they selected haven;t done well they black list them from that team. I give you example my football team is the carolina panthers i will say about 10 years we selected couple guys from usc trojans team, those wide reciever kerry colber and dwayne jarret were bust picks, ever since that time the carolina panthers never select anybody from usc trojans. The panthers never go send there [sic] scouts to usc because they don't have a good track record because of there [sic] bad history selecting picks from that team, is it the right thing do probably not but when you have bad history it comes back to haunt you.


i'm sorry i'm asking, but...

you know this how?
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Post#505 » by 2010 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:11 pm

Super hypothetical but if you had the choice, would you rather win the lottery in last years draft for Doncic or this year’s draft for Zion?
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Post#506 » by taj2133 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:12 pm

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K-DOT wrote:I don't even like Sekou, but that's the worst argument against taking a player I ever heard

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Teams do that if they don't have good history from certain country and those players they selected haven;t done well they black list them from that team. I give you example my football team is the carolina panthers i will say about 10 years we selected couple guys from usc trojans team, those wide reciever kerry colber and dwayne jarret were bust picks, ever since that time the carolina panthers never select anybody from usc trojans. The panthers never go send there scouts to usc because they don't have a good track record because of there bad history selecting picks from that team, is it the right thing do probably not but when you have bad history it comes back to haunt you.


i'm sorry i'm asking, but...

you know this how?

Ever since 2010 marty hurney general managers of panthers he said it radio interview here in charlotte only select them if 7 round pick or un drafted free agent players from usc. The only pick usc trojans that have been selected done well that general manager marty hurney was offensive line matt khalli.
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Post#507 » by Capn'O » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:15 pm

2010 wrote:Super hypothetical but if you had the choice, would you rather win the lottery in last years draft for Doncic or this year’s draft for Zion?


GOOD question!

My slick answer is that it depends on the team. I might go Doncic for my BAF team, for example.

Non-slick answer is that in a vacuum I would go Zion. The violence in his game I think gives a better overall impact.
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Re: College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!! 

Post#508 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:18 pm

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2010 wrote:Super hypothetical but if you had the choice, would you rather win the lottery in last years draft for Doncic or this year’s draft for Zion?


GOOD question!

My slick answer is that it depends on the team. I might go Doncic for my BAF team, for example.

Non-slick answer is that in a vacuum I would go Zion. The violence in his game I think gives a better overall impact.


i was BIG on doncic last year, but zion excites me even more.
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Post#509 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:19 pm

2010 wrote:Super hypothetical but if you had the choice, would you rather win the lottery in last years draft for Doncic or this year’s draft for Zion?

Zion easily cause I still would not take Doncic #1 last year
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Post#510 » by Tron Carter » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:27 pm

2010 wrote:Super hypothetical but if you had the choice, would you rather win the lottery in last years draft for Doncic or this year’s draft for Zion?


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Post#511 » by RHODEY » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:28 pm

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Post#512 » by Juco24 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:32 pm

2010 wrote:Super hypothetical but if you had the choice, would you rather win the lottery in last years draft for Doncic or this year’s draft for Zion?


If you're basing it off what Doncic was able to accomplish... I think it's close but I'd still go with Zion. Now based on if both had 0 experience and all we had to go on was Doncic's euro play vs Zion's collegiate career??? I don't see how it's close - just my opinion.
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Post#513 » by robillionaire » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:15 pm

2010 wrote:Super hypothetical but if you had the choice, would you rather win the lottery in last years draft for Doncic or this year’s draft for Zion?


Doncic because he’s already proven himself in the NBA and how well his game translates and Zion hasn’t yet so I’m going with the sure thing. It’s pretty close though.
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Post#514 » by 2010 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:32 pm

I'm going Zion. For the simple fact dude is a major impact on both sides of the ball. And Doncic's weight/body at such a young age scares me more than Zion's weight/injury concerns.
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Post#515 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:45 pm

I'm gonna vote Doncic because I'm not sure about Zion developing as a wing. Superstars big's are less valuable nowadays.
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Post#516 » by Buttah304 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:13 pm

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2010 wrote:Super hypothetical but if you had the choice, would you rather win the lottery in last years draft for Doncic or this year’s draft for Zion?

Zion easily cause I still would not take Doncic #1 last year


Who are you drafting over Doncic from last year? He seems like one of the best draft selections in recent memory.
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Post#517 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:31 pm

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2010 wrote:Super hypothetical but if you had the choice, would you rather win the lottery in last years draft for Doncic or this year’s draft for Zion?

Zion easily cause I still would not take Doncic #1 last year


Who are you drafting over Doncic from last year? He seems like one of the best draft selections in recent memory.

Ayton. I am biased though because I love throwback bigs, so I get why people would take Doncic #1. I am taking Zion over all of them though. I think Zion is the best prospect since AD
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Post#518 » by Buttah304 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:40 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Zion easily cause I still would not take Doncic #1 last year


Who are you drafting over Doncic from last year? He seems like one of the best draft selections in recent memory.

Ayton. I am biased though because I love throwback bigs, so I get why people would take Doncic #1. I am taking Zion over all of them though. I think Zion is the best prospect since AD


Agree than Zion is the best big man prospect since AD (probably overall as well). But I’m trying to think of the last wing player that was as dynamic as Luka. His IQ and talent is off the charts.
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3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:Zion easily cause I still would not take Doncic #1 last year


Who are you drafting over Doncic from last year? He seems like one of the best draft selections in recent memory.

Ayton. I am biased though because I love throwback bigs, so I get why people would take Doncic #1. I am taking Zion over all of them though. I think Zion is the best prospect since AD



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Post#520 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Apr 16, 2019 8:14 pm

god shammgod wrote:
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Who are you drafting over Doncic from last year? He seems like one of the best draft selections in recent memory.

Ayton. I am biased though because I love throwback bigs, so I get why people would take Doncic #1. I am taking Zion over all of them though. I think Zion is the best prospect since AD



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