Richard4444 wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:Richard4444 wrote:
KP was a risky investment to give a 5 year Max contract.
1) KP was injured, looked fragile and had stamina issues.
2) KP was a inefficient shooter, selfish player (low assists) and kind a tweener (too thin to play center and to tall and awkward to defend perimeter).
3) He as a foreign and young player was not great friend of others stars. Not great odds of buddy-buddy signing with another star.
4) He didnt like the current Front Office and he didnt see a future to the franchise for the next years. He could really had taken the QO. No rookie has refused a max so far. But he is pride and from a different environment and culture. He could had been the first one.
In hindsight,we should have taken the risk (he looks healthy and better). But, we cant analyse this situation in hindsight. The rumor of Durant coming to play for a NYC team with Irving was solid. But we didnt think about the possibilility of signing with the Nets and the the risk of an Durant`s serious injury.
Durant's injury wasnt related with Knicks vs Nets thing.
You do not trade your franchise player that still on rookie contract for rumors of possible FA's!
When FA time comes you can always offload C.Lee's 12m expiring. Or THJr contract. Maybe you'd give a young player or draft pick but its not hard to package those for salary offloading. Trading KP is always easy, you'd recieve assets for him any time.
Mills and Perry reasoning was BS!
For your bullets above:
1) and 4) kinda contradict itself. KP coming off a 1.5 year knee injury would take 5 year extension anywhere he goes. Thats not a huge deal for him or Janis. According to Mills&Perry and their mouthpiece media, KP asked for a trade. If he has the balls to ask trade when he was injured for 1.5 years then he would be ok to take 5 year extension and ask a trade after a year.
2) Inefficient scorer, being between PF/C, low assist numbers. So he's not Dirk Nowitzki with Embiid's size, Jokic's court vision, KAT athleticism. No one here claiming KP is GOAT. Maybe he wont be ever top 5-10 player too. But he already shown he's an allstar level talent.
3) DSJ is buddy buddy American star player and he's great at recruiting! If Knicks traded KP for KAT then you could make this argument. Towns would bring some buddy players etc. But you dont trade your star player for not being American.
With this mentality, Denver should trade Jokic tomorrow.
A) Nobody really knows how different the situation could be if Durant were healthy. Durant could have taken a more challenging path and have chosen the Knicks solo. He could have recruited some star like Butler, Kemba, etc. We could have showed more interest in his signing (through back channels).
B) Unload Lee and THjr after Durant signing would cost us a few FRPs. Teams would try to take advantage of our desperation.
C) If KP didnt healed well or suffered subsequent injuries due to his thin frame, his contract would be another STAT`s contract hurting our cap space. We are a team haunted from past albatroz contracts.
D) Asking for a trade would not be a tragedy if he comes back healthy because we would get equivalent value in return. If KP takes the QO, his contract looses all the market value. It would be a expiring contract. If the anger between FO and player were so great, KP could throw away money to get back on them.
E) DSjr was in a rookie contract deal. We could bring 2 stars in max salary in a buddy buddy deal with Dennis contract in the books. But with a KP Max in the books, we could not.
We lost the trade. But was not an obvious decision to make at the time.
It was obvious. You'd be as bad GM as Perry/Mills. Really don't know anything about how teams value players, how players behave on contract extensions etc.
All 5 points are BS and most of them contradicting itself. Just read it one after another it sounds like different people wrote some of the bullets.
The most funny part is using infamous report that contains (through text)
