2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still

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Keep that negative energy up. The moment we get lazy is the moment the cats are allowed to keep the race close enough to rig

Well that was ultimately Moore’s point that’s being misconstrued here

Nobody should relax at this point. Trump can still win. But Moore implying Trump is likely to win is not rooted in anything but PTSD.

None of us are relaxing about anything. I voted already so I'm not going to hammer people who have also voted about letting down their guard. We all know what is at stake and we've all talked to everyone in our lives that need to be spoken to. So I do not understand the point in anybody echoing a simplistic blowhard like Moore. If the point is to not let our guard down then just say it, but don't prop up a bad piece of video by Moore as the reason why it needs to be said.

PTSD is a good way of putting it. It's been four awful years, but for pete's sake enough with the crying game folks. Sack up, we're almost there.

[robillionaire]

Keep that negative energy up. The moment we get lazy is the moment the cats are allowed to keep the race close enough to rig

Well that was ultimately Moore’s point that’s being misconstrued here

Nobody should relax at this point. Trump can still win. But Moore implying Trump is likely to win is not rooted in anything but PTSD.

He didn’t say likely. He pretty much said exactly what you did if you go to the last 10 seconds or so of the video

Act as if it could happen again and act accordingly

I mean would it have better if he said “it’s in the bag everybody, go celebrate!” Overconfidence of people thinking Hillary had it in the bag was one of the reasons things happened the way they did last time. The more people he convinces that it’s going to be close and that their vote is critical, the better

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Well that was ultimately Moore’s point that’s being misconstrued here

Nobody should relax at this point. Trump can still win. But Moore implying Trump is likely to win is not rooted in anything but PTSD.

None of us are relaxing about anything. I voted already so I'm not going to hammer people who have also voted about letting down their guard. We all know what is at stake and we've all talked to everyone in our lives that need to be spoken to. So I do not understand the point in anybody echoing a simplistic blowhard like Moore. If the point is to not let our guard down then just say it, but don't prop up a bad piece of video by Moore as the reason why it needs to be said.

PTSD is a good way of putting it. It's been four awful years, but for pete's sake enough with the crying game folks. Sack up, we're almost there.

I'll say it loud and clear:


FUQ (replace the Q (not Q-Anon dum dums) with a CK (and not the harasser) and you'll get the point) Michael Moore, Glenny Glenn Greenwald, and any other doomsday whisperers. Moore fell for Russian propaganda after the 2016 election. He's wrong most of the time, including pre-2016.

And yes - no logical person is relaxing or getting complacent about polls. Literally no one.

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Meanwhile from the data driven people who sounded the alarm 4 years ago

Moore literally thinks that Trump believes he is going to win which tells me Moore is the one living inside his own reality distortion bubble. All you have to do is see what Trump says at his rallies to know that not only does he not believe he is going to win he is fantasizing about bolting from the country in anticipation of losing. Moore's brain is a puddle of drool at this point. He actually thinks Trump is an evil genius. One of the worst videos analyzing this election I've seen yet

Moore thought Obama was going to lose in 2008 and 2012 as well. In fact he was a **** history of predicting elections except for 2016. I get annoyed by the “don’t believe the polls people” when the message they should be sending is “if you want an actual blow out, vote and get 5 people you know to vote straight ticket Democrat as well”

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[Clyde_Style]

Well that was ultimately Moore’s point that’s being misconstrued here

Nobody should relax at this point. Trump can still win. But Moore implying Trump is likely to win is not rooted in anything but PTSD.

He didn’t say likely. He pretty much said exactly what you did if you go to the last 10 seconds or so of the video

Act as if it could happen again and act accordingly

I mean would it have better if he said “it’s in the bag everybody, go celebrate!” Overconfidence of people thinking Hillary had it in the bag was one of the reasons things happened the way they did last time. The more people he convinces that it’s going to be close and that their vote is critical, the better

You make it sound like Michael Moore is going to convince someone who wasn't already motivated to vote to leap up off of their couch on Nov. 3rd and vote, because omigod he's right Trump could win! I should vote after all! Get out of the way, I've got to get to city hall before the polls close!

Are you effing kidding us? What loser who can't make up their mind yet would be watching that video and suddenly be compelled to vote? This is daft

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Nobody should relax at this point. Trump can still win. But Moore implying Trump is likely to win is not rooted in anything but PTSD.

He didn’t say likely. He pretty much said exactly what you did if you go to the last 10 seconds or so of the video

Act as if it could happen again and act accordingly

I mean would it have better if he said “it’s in the bag everybody, go celebrate!” Overconfidence of people thinking Hillary had it in the bag was one of the reasons things happened the way they did last time. The more people he convinces that it’s going to be close and that their vote is critical, the better

You make it sound like Michael Moore is going to convince someone who wasn't already motivated to vote to leap up off of their couch on Nov. 3rd and vote, because omigod he's right Trump could win! I should vote after all! Get out of the way, I've got to get to city hall before the polls close!

Are you effing kidding us? What loser who can't make up their mind yet would be watching that video and suddenly be compelled to vote? This is daft

Because of the Michigan 2016 loss, there's so many Michigan doomsdayists from Moore to even politicians such as Debbie Dingell & Elissa Slotkin who literally don't believe anything and are super paranoid about losing Michigan again, despite not seeing the inroads made over the past few years. It's honestly super annoying.

[robillionaire]

Nobody should relax at this point. Trump can still win. But Moore implying Trump is likely to win is not rooted in anything but PTSD.

He didn’t say likely. He pretty much said exactly what you did if you go to the last 10 seconds or so of the video

Act as if it could happen again and act accordingly

I mean would it have better if he said “it’s in the bag everybody, go celebrate!” Overconfidence of people thinking Hillary had it in the bag was one of the reasons things happened the way they did last time. The more people he convinces that it’s going to be close and that their vote is critical, the better

You make it sound like Michael Moore is going to convince someone who wasn't already motivated to vote to leap up off of their couch on Nov. 3rd and vote, because omigod he's right Trump could win! I should vote after all?

Are you effing kidding us? What loser who can't make up their mind yet would be watching that video and suddenly be compelled to vote? This is daft

Yes, there are some people who are like that. Half the country doesn’t even vote. It’s more likely that they haven’t made up their mind if it’s worth getting off the couch that day

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That's funny. Cringy as all fk, but funny

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[Clyde_Style]

He didn’t say likely. He pretty much said exactly what you did if you go to the last 10 seconds or so of the video

Act as if it could happen again and act accordingly

I mean would it have better if he said “it’s in the bag everybody, go celebrate!” Overconfidence of people thinking Hillary had it in the bag was one of the reasons things happened the way they did last time. The more people he convinces that it’s going to be close and that their vote is critical, the better

You make it sound like Michael Moore is going to convince someone who wasn't already motivated to vote to leap up off of their couch on Nov. 3rd and vote, because omigod he's right Trump could win! I should vote after all?

Are you effing kidding us? What loser who can't make up their mind yet would be watching that video and suddenly be compelled to vote? This is daft

Yes, there are some people who are like that. Half the country doesn’t even vote. It’s more likely that they haven’t made up their mind if it’s worth getting off the couch that day

nah, anyone who is going to vote already has voted or already knows they are going to vote. Moore is not going to shake votes loose from a constipated pinata full of inactive voters. But if you really think so then OK

I know you're feeling bleak, but even with all of your pessimism you have to see that a lot of the chips have fallen in the right direction for months now. So if you can't cheer up yet, please don't take too many hits off the doom bong

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[robillionaire]

You make it sound like Michael Moore is going to convince someone who wasn't already motivated to vote to leap up off of their couch on Nov. 3rd and vote, because omigod he's right Trump could win! I should vote after all?

Are you effing kidding us? What loser who can't make up their mind yet would be watching that video and suddenly be compelled to vote? This is daft

Yes, there are some people who are like that. Half the country doesn’t even vote. It’s more likely that they haven’t made up their mind if it’s worth getting off the couch that day

nah, anyone who is going to vote already has voted or already knows they are going to vote. Moore is not going to shake votes loose from a constipated pinata full of inactive voters. But if you really think so then OK

I know you're feeling bleak, but even with all of your pessimism you have to see that a lot of the chips have fallen in the right direction for months now. So if you can't cheer up yet, please don't take too many hits off the doom bong

It’s not bleakness and pessimism it’s just vigilance against what I see as a rolling coup. The polls could say Biden was up by 50 and I’d still be overly cautious and looking out for any way these snakes could steal this thing. EVEN IF BIDEN IS DECLARED THE WINNER I’m not going to sleep well until he is officially physically gone from the WH. Sorry, that’s just how it’s gotta be when you’re up against something this dangerous.

[nedleeds]

It's go time! Platinum Plan is poppin'.

Just read the horrors Trump is going to unleash on Black America

[Clyde_Style]

Yes, there are some people who are like that. Half the country doesn’t even vote. It’s more likely that they haven’t made up their mind if it’s worth getting off the couch that day

nah, anyone who is going to vote already has voted or already knows they are going to vote. Moore is not going to shake votes loose from a constipated pinata full of inactive voters. But if you really think so then OK

I know you're feeling bleak, but even with all of your pessimism you have to see that a lot of the chips have fallen in the right direction for months now. So if you can't cheer up yet, please don't take too many hits off the doom bong

It’s not bleakness and pessimism it’s just vigilance against what I see as a rolling coup. The polls could say Biden was up by 50 and I’d still be overly cautious and looking out for any way these snakes could steal this thing. EVEN IF BIDEN IS DECLARED THE WINNER I’m not going to sleep well until he is officially physically gone from the WH. Sorry, that’s just how it’s gotta be when you’re up against something this dangerous.

We're just wired differently and I'll have to accept that. I've been vocal about the fascist takeover before anyone else so we're not really different in our outlook on what we're fighting against. But I tend to be the guy who is upbeat at the beginning of every Knicks season so there's that.

I agree that it is not over until Trump's fat ass is out of the door. The damage he and those around him will do between now and January is still a tragedy in the making even with the election results settled. It is pretty horrific that we have an administration that will only sabotage the incoming president on their way out. I half expect the WH to be looted of all art and furniture and the floor to be covered with shredded documents when Biden steps through the door.

[Clyde_Style]

It's go time! Platinum Plan is poppin'.

Just read the horrors Trump is going to unleash on Black America

Are you trying to be funny? I think you are, but I'm not entirely sure

Jobs, Jobs, Jobs is what Trump said in 2016 and he has the worst economic rating of any president in the past half century.

He can't even create a job for his white base so WTF is he going to do for Black America?

That's some comedy gold you've got there

[robillionaire]

nah, anyone who is going to vote already has voted or already knows they are going to vote. Moore is not going to shake votes loose from a constipated pinata full of inactive voters. But if you really think so then OK

I know you're feeling bleak, but even with all of your pessimism you have to see that a lot of the chips have fallen in the right direction for months now. So if you can't cheer up yet, please don't take too many hits off the doom bong

It’s not bleakness and pessimism it’s just vigilance against what I see as a rolling coup. The polls could say Biden was up by 50 and I’d still be overly cautious and looking out for any way these snakes could steal this thing. EVEN IF BIDEN IS DECLARED THE WINNER I’m not going to sleep well until he is officially physically gone from the WH. Sorry, that’s just how it’s gotta be when you’re up against something this dangerous.

We're just wired differently and I'll have to accept that. I've been vocal about the fascist takeover before anyone else so we're not really different in our outlook on what we're fighting against. But I tend to be the guy who is upbeat at the beginning of every Knicks season so there's that.

I agree that it is not over until Trump's fat ass is out of the door. The damage he and those around him will do between now and January is still a tragedy in the making even with the election results settled. It is pretty horrific that we have an administration that will only sabotage the incoming president on their way out. I half expect the WH to be looted of all art and furniture and the floor to be covered with shredded documents when Biden steps through the door.

All that said, sure, I’m not denying that the polls look good for Biden and the way things have unfolded for him couldn’t have gone very much better. If this was a normal election without an aspiring dictator hell bent on maintaining power by any means necessary, with a newly minted activist court, backed by a bunch of militiamen that are “standing by” I’d have no qualms about flippantly saying it looks as if Biden has it and put the champagne on ice. I kinda envy those who are able to feel that way. Meanwhile I’m not sleeping. Yes, I have an anxiety issue.

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That's funny. Cringy as all fk, but funny

He’s the real time words. Jesus anyone that believes this right wing bull. It went from Joe Biden is the HEAD OF A CRIME FAMILY to Hunter’s got some problems we should be understanding. You have to be a complete **** idiot to believe any of this ****. Fox News hates you and thinks you are stupid

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[Clyde_Style]

It’s not bleakness and pessimism it’s just vigilance against what I see as a rolling coup. The polls could say Biden was up by 50 and I’d still be overly cautious and looking out for any way these snakes could steal this thing. EVEN IF BIDEN IS DECLARED THE WINNER I’m not going to sleep well until he is officially physically gone from the WH. Sorry, that’s just how it’s gotta be when you’re up against something this dangerous.

We're just wired differently and I'll have to accept that. I've been vocal about the fascist takeover before anyone else so we're not really different in our outlook on what we're fighting against. But I tend to be the guy who is upbeat at the beginning of every Knicks season so there's that.

I agree that it is not over until Trump's fat ass is out of the door. The damage he and those around him will do between now and January is still a tragedy in the making even with the election results settled. It is pretty horrific that we have an administration that will only sabotage the incoming president on their way out. I half expect the WH to be looted of all art and furniture and the floor to be covered with shredded documents when Biden steps through the door.

All that said, sure, I’m not denying that the polls look good for Biden and the way things have unfolded for him couldn’t have gone very much better. If this was a normal election without an aspiring dictator hell bent on maintaining power by any means necessary, with a newly minted activist court, backed by a bunch of militiamen that are “standing by” I’d have no qualms about flippantly saying it looks as if Biden has it and put the champagne on ice. I kinda envy those who are able to feel that way. Meanwhile I’m not sleeping. Yes, I have an anxiety issue.

I don't feel that way. I won't be able to relax until the data is in and locked down.

What I'm disagreeing with is any tendency to latch on to bad analysis whenever it validates fears. Moore's video sucked. There is better material to pivot off of.

There is a difference between guarding against complacency and fear mongering just like there's a difference between flippant over-confidence and solid analysis giving one a rational basis that Biden at this point is very likely to win.