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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#501 » by nykballa2k4 » Fri Jul 9, 2021 9:57 pm

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How incredible would it be to start off the 2021 season with Murray . An actual PG with potential to be a starter past just 1 season

At the right price, def would do it.

I think it would be Spursian to agree to 21 and 32 for Murray. They would then draft Sengun, Garuba, and that kid whose name draft sites can't spell.
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Post#502 » by newyorker4ever » Fri Jul 9, 2021 11:25 pm

I love me some SGA and wanted us to draft him in his draft but damn this sure is a lot to trade for him in these two mock trades for SGA.

https://dailyknicks.com/2021/07/09/ny-knicks-2-trades-shai-gilgeous-alexander/

After multiple reports stating that The Oklahoma City Thunder could trade Shai Gilegeous-Alexander as he does not fit the Thunder’s timeline, it is hard to imagine that the NY Knicks won’t make a push for the former Kentucky guard.

Two weeks back, DailyKnicks editor Bradley Dressler speculated on these rumors, and it is time to dive in deeper. The Thunder are the only team in the NBA with more draft capital than New York, and would target draft picks if they traded “SGA”.

NY Knicks: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander would be a huge acquisition
Obviously, the combo guard would not be cheap, and the Knicks would seriously need to shell out a good amount of their future in order to land Alexander, however his fit might make it worth the trade. After averaging 24 points 5 rebounds and 6 assists on 52/41/81 shooting splits at 22 years old, the Thunder would be smart to sell high before Shai hits restricted free agency in 2022.

The NY Knicks’ biggest issue is their weak backcourt. Shai would probably play the point guard position in NY, solving the point guard issue that the Knicks always seem to have.

“SGA” is not going to come cheap, it is incredibly difficult to pry a team’s best player away, especially when they’re going to be only 23 next season. However, trading him makes sense, as Sam Presti is correct to worry about the timeline of Gilegeous-Alexander and the absurd amount of people the Thunder will be drafting in the next few years. Oklahoma City is not near the playoffs at all yet, and it is clear that the Thunder will be trading recently acquired Kemba Walker.

Trading Shai before he gets a chance to leave in free agency or request a trade will mean getting the most in return for him. A Canadian, former Kentucky Wildcat point guard is the Knicks dream come true, and they have to be prepared to offer some enticing packages. Here are two trades that bring Shai Gilgeous-Alexander to the Knicks
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Post#503 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jul 9, 2021 11:31 pm

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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#504 » by DaGawd » Fri Jul 9, 2021 11:34 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:I love me some SGA and wanted us to draft him in his draft but damn this sure is a lot to trade for him in these two mock trades for SGA.

https://dailyknicks.com/2021/07/09/ny-knicks-2-trades-shai-gilgeous-alexander/

After multiple reports stating that The Oklahoma City Thunder could trade Shai Gilegeous-Alexander as he does not fit the Thunder’s timeline, it is hard to imagine that the NY Knicks won’t make a push for the former Kentucky guard.

Two weeks back, DailyKnicks editor Bradley Dressler speculated on these rumors, and it is time to dive in deeper. The Thunder are the only team in the NBA with more draft capital than New York, and would target draft picks if they traded “SGA”.

NY Knicks: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander would be a huge acquisition
Obviously, the combo guard would not be cheap, and the Knicks would seriously need to shell out a good amount of their future in order to land Alexander, however his fit might make it worth the trade. After averaging 24 points 5 rebounds and 6 assists on 52/41/81 shooting splits at 22 years old, the Thunder would be smart to sell high before Shai hits restricted free agency in 2022.

The NY Knicks’ biggest issue is their weak backcourt. Shai would probably play the point guard position in NY, solving the point guard issue that the Knicks always seem to have.

“SGA” is not going to come cheap, it is incredibly difficult to pry a team’s best player away, especially when they’re going to be only 23 next season. However, trading him makes sense, as Sam Presti is correct to worry about the timeline of Gilegeous-Alexander and the absurd amount of people the Thunder will be drafting in the next few years. Oklahoma City is not near the playoffs at all yet, and it is clear that the Thunder will be trading recently acquired Kemba Walker.

Trading Shai before he gets a chance to leave in free agency or request a trade will mean getting the most in return for him. A Canadian, former Kentucky Wildcat point guard is the Knicks dream come true, and they have to be prepared to offer some enticing packages. Here are two trades that bring Shai Gilgeous-Alexander to the Knicks

I’d do that first proposal of just Knox and a bunch of picks in a NY second.. them picks are middling at best. The chances of any of them or Knox being better than Shai at any point aren’t very high
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#505 » by Jalen Bluntson » Fri Jul 9, 2021 11:44 pm

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newyorker4ever wrote:I love me some SGA and wanted us to draft him in his draft but damn this sure is a lot to trade for him in these two mock trades for SGA.

https://dailyknicks.com/2021/07/09/ny-knicks-2-trades-shai-gilgeous-alexander/

After multiple reports stating that The Oklahoma City Thunder could trade Shai Gilegeous-Alexander as he does not fit the Thunder’s timeline, it is hard to imagine that the NY Knicks won’t make a push for the former Kentucky guard.

Two weeks back, DailyKnicks editor Bradley Dressler speculated on these rumors, and it is time to dive in deeper. The Thunder are the only team in the NBA with more draft capital than New York, and would target draft picks if they traded “SGA”.

NY Knicks: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander would be a huge acquisition
Obviously, the combo guard would not be cheap, and the Knicks would seriously need to shell out a good amount of their future in order to land Alexander, however his fit might make it worth the trade. After averaging 24 points 5 rebounds and 6 assists on 52/41/81 shooting splits at 22 years old, the Thunder would be smart to sell high before Shai hits restricted free agency in 2022.

The NY Knicks’ biggest issue is their weak backcourt. Shai would probably play the point guard position in NY, solving the point guard issue that the Knicks always seem to have.

“SGA” is not going to come cheap, it is incredibly difficult to pry a team’s best player away, especially when they’re going to be only 23 next season. However, trading him makes sense, as Sam Presti is correct to worry about the timeline of Gilegeous-Alexander and the absurd amount of people the Thunder will be drafting in the next few years. Oklahoma City is not near the playoffs at all yet, and it is clear that the Thunder will be trading recently acquired Kemba Walker.

Trading Shai before he gets a chance to leave in free agency or request a trade will mean getting the most in return for him. A Canadian, former Kentucky Wildcat point guard is the Knicks dream come true, and they have to be prepared to offer some enticing packages. Here are two trades that bring Shai Gilgeous-Alexander to the Knicks

I’d do that first proposal of just Knox and a bunch of picks in a NY second.. them picks are middling at best. The chances of any of them or Knox being better than Shai at any point aren’t very high


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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#506 » by aggo » Fri Jul 9, 2021 11:55 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:I love me some SGA and wanted us to draft him in his draft but damn this sure is a lot to trade for him in these two mock trades for SGA.

https://dailyknicks.com/2021/07/09/ny-knicks-2-trades-shai-gilgeous-alexander/

After multiple reports stating that The Oklahoma City Thunder could trade Shai Gilegeous-Alexander as he does not fit the Thunder’s timeline, it is hard to imagine that the NY Knicks won’t make a push for the former Kentucky guard.

Two weeks back, DailyKnicks editor Bradley Dressler speculated on these rumors, and it is time to dive in deeper. The Thunder are the only team in the NBA with more draft capital than New York, and would target draft picks if they traded “SGA”.

NY Knicks: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander would be a huge acquisition
Obviously, the combo guard would not be cheap, and the Knicks would seriously need to shell out a good amount of their future in order to land Alexander, however his fit might make it worth the trade. After averaging 24 points 5 rebounds and 6 assists on 52/41/81 shooting splits at 22 years old, the Thunder would be smart to sell high before Shai hits restricted free agency in 2022.

The NY Knicks’ biggest issue is their weak backcourt. Shai would probably play the point guard position in NY, solving the point guard issue that the Knicks always seem to have.

“SGA” is not going to come cheap, it is incredibly difficult to pry a team’s best player away, especially when they’re going to be only 23 next season. However, trading him makes sense, as Sam Presti is correct to worry about the timeline of Gilegeous-Alexander and the absurd amount of people the Thunder will be drafting in the next few years. Oklahoma City is not near the playoffs at all yet, and it is clear that the Thunder will be trading recently acquired Kemba Walker.

Trading Shai before he gets a chance to leave in free agency or request a trade will mean getting the most in return for him. A Canadian, former Kentucky Wildcat point guard is the Knicks dream come true, and they have to be prepared to offer some enticing packages. Here are two trades that bring Shai Gilgeous-Alexander to the Knicks



trade 2 OKC is getting way too much. Kembas contract is actually huge.

trade 1 is fair but tilted to OKC, the truth is that they dont need to trade SGA but if they have no intention of giving him the max RFA deal they SHOULD trade him now.

I would do trade 1 in a heartbeat and tamper for a '22 UFA, as our team could be marketed to a UFA (like harden) as needing 1 last piece/player. we could also sign another player with harden at 10-20mm AAV before '22 FA in this scenario.
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#507 » by The Vo Show » Sat Jul 10, 2021 2:45 am

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trade 2 OKC is getting way too much. Kembas contract is actually huge.

trade 1 is fair but tilted to OKC, the truth is that they dont need to trade SGA but if they have no intention of giving him the max RFA deal they SHOULD trade him now.

I would do trade 1 in a heartbeat and tamper for a '22 UFA, as our team could be marketed to a UFA (like harden) as needing 1 last piece/player. we could also sign another player with harden at 10-20mm AAV before '22 FA in this scenario.


Trade 1 seems lopsided for the Knicks and trade 2 seems a little more even but we should be giving up less picks or keeping Mitch and throwing in Frank or something. Like you said, Kemba's contract is pretty big and he had a poor year.
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#508 » by robillionaire » Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:10 am

newyorker4ever wrote:I love me some SGA and wanted us to draft him in his draft but damn this sure is a lot to trade for him in these two mock trades for SGA.

https://dailyknicks.com/2021/07/09/ny-knicks-2-trades-shai-gilgeous-alexander/

After multiple reports stating that The Oklahoma City Thunder could trade Shai Gilegeous-Alexander as he does not fit the Thunder’s timeline, it is hard to imagine that the NY Knicks won’t make a push for the former Kentucky guard.

Two weeks back, DailyKnicks editor Bradley Dressler speculated on these rumors, and it is time to dive in deeper. The Thunder are the only team in the NBA with more draft capital than New York, and would target draft picks if they traded “SGA”.

NY Knicks: Shai Gilgeous-Alexander would be a huge acquisition
Obviously, the combo guard would not be cheap, and the Knicks would seriously need to shell out a good amount of their future in order to land Alexander, however his fit might make it worth the trade. After averaging 24 points 5 rebounds and 6 assists on 52/41/81 shooting splits at 22 years old, the Thunder would be smart to sell high before Shai hits restricted free agency in 2022.

The NY Knicks’ biggest issue is their weak backcourt. Shai would probably play the point guard position in NY, solving the point guard issue that the Knicks always seem to have.

“SGA” is not going to come cheap, it is incredibly difficult to pry a team’s best player away, especially when they’re going to be only 23 next season. However, trading him makes sense, as Sam Presti is correct to worry about the timeline of Gilegeous-Alexander and the absurd amount of people the Thunder will be drafting in the next few years. Oklahoma City is not near the playoffs at all yet, and it is clear that the Thunder will be trading recently acquired Kemba Walker.

Trading Shai before he gets a chance to leave in free agency or request a trade will mean getting the most in return for him. A Canadian, former Kentucky Wildcat point guard is the Knicks dream come true, and they have to be prepared to offer some enticing packages. Here are two trades that bring Shai Gilgeous-Alexander to the Knicks


I would gleefully do either of these trades in a heartbeat. OKC wouldn't. you can tell knicks fans are behind the proposals because they're teetering on delusional
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#509 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:52 am

The SGA rumors are dumb bullsh*t when we type them up and more so when they masquerade as news at "DailyKnicks.com"
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#510 » by Ghetto Gospel » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:09 am

thebuzzardman wrote:The SGA rumors are dumb bullsh*t when we type them up and more so when they masquerade as news at "DailyKnicks.com"


are you factoring in our newfound culture that will have superstars forcing their way onto the knicks? sga will force a trade to the knicks and we'll get him for cheap like james harden to brooklyn
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#511 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Jul 10, 2021 7:52 am

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thebuzzardman wrote:The SGA rumors are dumb bullsh*t when we type them up and more so when they masquerade as news at "DailyKnicks.com"


are you factoring in our newfound culture that will have superstars forcing their way onto the knicks? sga will force a trade to the knicks and we'll get him for cheap like james harden to brooklyn

Do you really believe that?
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Post#512 » by DaGawd » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:06 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Ghetto Gospel wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:The SGA rumors are dumb bullsh*t when we type them up and more so when they masquerade as news at "DailyKnicks.com"


are you factoring in our newfound culture that will have superstars forcing their way onto the knicks? sga will force a trade to the knicks and we'll get him for cheap like james harden to brooklyn

Do you really believe that?

I’m about 99.2 % sure he was being sarcastic here
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Post#513 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:18 pm

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are you factoring in our newfound culture that will have superstars forcing their way onto the knicks? sga will force a trade to the knicks and we'll get him for cheap like james harden to brooklyn

Do you really believe that?

I’m about 99.2 % sure he was being sarcastic here

I actually think so too :lol:
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Post#514 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:27 pm

Ghetto Gospel wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:The SGA rumors are dumb bullsh*t when we type them up and more so when they masquerade as news at "DailyKnicks.com"


are you factoring in our newfound culture that will have superstars forcing their way onto the knicks? sga will force a trade to the knicks and we'll get him for cheap like james harden to brooklyn


The sarcasm is deep here, which I always appreciate.

:D

So, THEORETICALLY, this is where the WWW/Leon/Calipari confluence/influence/(flatulence?) is supposed to come in, and SGA "AD's or Harden's" his way to the Knicks. Of course, the Knicks have to a) Have assets to offer b) Assets to offer OKC actually wants, c) etc

Also, Calipari is supposed to love the Knicks etc etc, and I know this is before WWW/Leon took over, but didn't the Knicks have pretty strong need for guards when Knox was drafted? I mean, if Calipari is this bball guru who loves the Knicks, and yes I know the Knick had Frank (lolz) but shouldn't he have encouraged the Knicks to DRAFT SGA instead of bum juice, low motivation Knox, 3 years ago?
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Post#515 » by newyorker4ever » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:11 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Ghetto Gospel wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:The SGA rumors are dumb bullsh*t when we type them up and more so when they masquerade as news at "DailyKnicks.com"


are you factoring in our newfound culture that will have superstars forcing their way onto the knicks? sga will force a trade to the knicks and we'll get him for cheap like james harden to brooklyn


The sarcasm is deep here, which I always appreciate.

:D

So, THEORETICALLY, this is where the WWW/Leon/Calipari confluence/influence/(flatulence?) is supposed to come in, and SGA "AD's or Harden's" his way to the Knicks. Of course, the Knicks have to a) Have assets to offer b) Assets to offer OKC actually wants, c) etc

Also, Calipari is supposed to love the Knicks etc etc, and I know this is before WWW/Leon took over, but didn't the Knicks have pretty strong need for guards when Knox was drafted? I mean, if Calipari is this bball guru who loves the Knicks, and yes I know the Knick had Frank (lolz) but shouldn't he have encouraged the Knicks to DRAFT SGA instead of bum juice, low motivation Knox, 3 years ago?


Maybe he did but unfortunately at that time.....................
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Post#516 » by WargamesX » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:57 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Ghetto Gospel wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:The SGA rumors are dumb bullsh*t when we type them up and more so when they masquerade as news at "DailyKnicks.com"


are you factoring in our newfound culture that will have superstars forcing their way onto the knicks? sga will force a trade to the knicks and we'll get him for cheap like james harden to brooklyn


The sarcasm is deep here, which I always appreciate.

:D

So, THEORETICALLY, this is where the WWW/Leon/Calipari confluence/influence/(flatulence?) is supposed to come in, and SGA "AD's or Harden's" his way to the Knicks. Of course, the Knicks have to a) Have assets to offer b) Assets to offer OKC actually wants, c) etc

Also, Calipari is supposed to love the Knicks etc etc, and I know this is before WWW/Leon took over, but didn't the Knicks have pretty strong need for guards when Knox was drafted? I mean, if Calipari is this bball guru who loves the Knicks, and yes I know the Knick had Frank (lolz) but shouldn't he have encouraged the Knicks to DRAFT SGA instead of bum juice, low motivation Knox, 3 years ago?

In theory I think it would be bad form for him to crap on one of his players for another. Also I thought the love was for Rose and Thibs and the CAA crowd. At that point he Knicks were just another mark…. I mean team to him.
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#517 » by Marty McFly » Sat Jul 10, 2021 4:58 pm

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Any chance we could get Murray... we should do

How incredible would it be to start off the 2021 season with Murray . An actual PG with potential to be a starter past just 1 season


If we can land Murray, without totally depreciating our assets, I'd be way more comfortable with paying Randle.
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Post#518 » by FreeSpiritNY » Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:58 pm

Why don’t we go after eric Gordon? He could be had for cheap. He would be perfect for shooting guard at low cost .
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Re: Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread 

Post#519 » by aggo » Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:37 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
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Any chance we could get Murray... we should do

How incredible would it be to start off the 2021 season with Murray . An actual PG with potential to be a starter past just 1 season


If we can land Murray, without totally depreciating our assets, I'd be way more comfortable with paying Randle.


I would give one of our FRPs for either player.
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Post#520 » by sol537 » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:10 am

I could see the off-season going something like this:

1) Lowry 3-year deal
2) Re-signing Rose, Taj, Bullock (letting Burks, Frank, and Noel go)
3) Drafting Butler @ 19, Cooper @ 21, Vrenz @ 32
4) Signing a couple more 1-year journeymen vets

Lowry / Rose
RJ / Butler / Cooper
Bullock
Randle / Obi / Vrenz
Robinson / Taj

50-win team. Top 3 defense again. 5th or 6th seed. Maybe advance to the 2nd round this time. #BabySteps

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