Dame on The Verge Of Asking Out!!!!

[KnixtapeH20]

I think Brooklyn gave up 4 1st round picks.

Ok cool.

So we can give Portland our 5 first round picks and get to keep ALL of our players. Right?

Maybe throw in Frank, Knox, Elfrid, Luca Vildozaand and even our 2nd round pick too.

Take it or leave it.

But no. They aren't allowed to take advantage of us and rob us of our current youth of talent and all for a player who WANTS TO LEAVE THEM.

Either NY ripoffs Portland; or no deal.

Because they can lose him for absolutely nothingness in return for all I care.

Starting 5:
C: Mitchell Robinson.
PF: Julius Randle.
SF: Kawhi Leonard.
SG: R.J Barrett.
PG: Damian Lillard.

Bench:
C: Nerlens Noel.
PF: Obi Toppin.
SF: Reggie Bullock.
SG: Alec Burks.
PG: Immanuel Quickley / Derrick Rose.

Now THAT?!? I can agree too.

Yea that would be amazing but that's living in la la land. Guys like Dame don't grow on trees so teams are going to be willing to pony up their talent and picks to aquire him. We're not in the driver's seat unfortunately. Unless he says he only wants to come to the Knicks.. Which would be dumb on his part.

[NYK-Mentality85]

If Dame wants out and wants to be a Knick he will be a Knick. If the price is RJ in w.e deal, RJ will be gone. You can write 17 pages on why he won't but there's no way around it unless he's not part of the package which isn't likely.

Why do you say it's unlikely RJ wouldn't be apart of the Dame package?

Is it because Portland know just how great RJ is going to develop into a perennial All-Star @ only 21?

Why does Portland want RJ Barrett from us SO BAD?

Who says Portland wants him so bad? They need to get something back in return for Lillard who is one of the top players in the league. Our young players are RJ, IQ, Obi and Mi... Foh I'd revolt if they traded Mitch

Well then they can have our 5 1st round picks throughout the next 3 years, this years 2nd round pick, Frank, Knox, Elfrid and Luca Vildozaand too.

But na. They aren't allowed they don't deserve either of Immanuel Quickley, R.J Barrett, Obi Toppin or Mitchell Robinson.

And you know why? Because it's NY who has the advantage at the poker table because Damian Lillard wants to LEAVE THEM.

[Adelheid]

There hasnt been any formal trade request from Dame. POR leverage still at its fullest.

But if Dame names a destination...

[Montmorencie]

We are not in the driver's seat because we don't have guys like Dame. Get him here and you automatically acquire either Kawhi, CP3 or at least some other decent player like Lavine, Beal of that sort.

Go get two of these, make a run or two for a chip the next 4-5 years and in 4-5 years when at least half of Luka Tatum, Mitchell, Booker, Zion, Ja, Trae or Jamal Murray will be available you will be in the driver's seat for them too. Because they will have seen a revived, contending Knicks and they will want to land here.

The other option is two stick with our scrub 'talents' and miss another chance to impress the generation in 4-5 years. Acquiring Dame is not for Kawhi, acquiring Dame is for building a culture that will help us land Luka, Zion or Mitchell.

[Jimmit79]

We are not in the driver's seat because we don't have guys like Dame. Get him here and you automatically acquire either Kawhi, CP3 or at least some other decent player like Lavine, Beal of that sort.

Go get two of these, make a run or two for a chip the next 4-5 years and in 4-5 years when at least half of Luka Tatum, Mitchell, Booker, Zion, Ja, Trae or Jamal Murray will be available you will be in the driver's seat for them too. Because they will have seen a revived, contending Knicks and they will want to land here.

The other option is two stick with our scrub 'talents' and miss another chance to impress the generation in 4-5 years. Acquiring Dame is not for Kawhi, acquiring Dame is for building a culture that will help us land Luka, Zion or Mitchell.

This are very good point.

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[TerrenceClarke]

We are not in the driver's seat because we don't have guys like Dame. Get him here and you automatically acquire either Kawhi, CP3 or at least some other decent player like Lavine, Beal of that sort.

Go get two of these, make a run or two for a chip the next 4-5 years and in 4-5 years when at least half of Luka Tatum, Mitchell, Booker, Zion, Ja, Trae or Jamal Murray will be available you will be in the driver's seat for them too. Because they will have seen a revived, contending Knicks and they will want to land here.

The other option is two stick with our scrub 'talents' and miss another chance to impress the generation in 4-5 years. Acquiring Dame is not for Kawhi, acquiring Dame is for building a culture that will help us land Luka, Zion or Mitchell.

All three of those players would come here without Dame Lillard, so that point is moot. Zion is gushing about NY right NOW. Mitchell does not need Dame to want to be here, he was in NY as soon as his season ended. Luka would die to be in an envioremt like the garden.


So no.we dont need to mortage the future for those players to come. That same culture is being built without dame right now as we speak.

[Montmorencie]

We are not in the driver's seat because we don't have guys like Dame. Get him here and you automatically acquire either Kawhi, CP3 or at least some other decent player like Lavine, Beal of that sort.

Go get two of these, make a run or two for a chip the next 4-5 years and in 4-5 years when at least half of Luka Tatum, Mitchell, Booker, Zion, Ja, Trae or Jamal Murray will be available you will be in the driver's seat for them too. Because they will have seen a revived, contending Knicks and they will want to land here.

The other option is two stick with our scrub 'talents' and miss another chance to impress the generation in 4-5 years. Acquiring Dame is not for Kawhi, acquiring Dame is for building a culture that will help us land Luka, Zion or Mitchell.

All three of those players would come here without Dame Lillard, so that point is moot. Zion is gushing about NY right NOW. Mitchell does not need Dame to want to be here, he was in NY as soon as his season ended. Luka would die to be in an envioremt like the garden.


So no.we dont need to mortage the future for those players to come. That same culture is being built without dame right now as we speak.

That's dumb. These players don't make emotional decisions. They will draw lines. And the line if simple - if Knicks have sucked for another 5 years, which will make it 13 in a row, they will not come here. Simple as that.

I don't care what Zion says or where Mitch goes in his free time. This shows no intentions at all. In fact, it's probably just acting for making their owners spend and land some other high calibre player.

[TerrenceClarke]

We are not in the driver's seat because we don't have guys like Dame. Get him here and you automatically acquire either Kawhi, CP3 or at least some other decent player like Lavine, Beal of that sort.

Go get two of these, make a run or two for a chip the next 4-5 years and in 4-5 years when at least half of Luka Tatum, Mitchell, Booker, Zion, Ja, Trae or Jamal Murray will be available you will be in the driver's seat for them too. Because they will have seen a revived, contending Knicks and they will want to land here.

The other option is two stick with our scrub 'talents' and miss another chance to impress the generation in 4-5 years. Acquiring Dame is not for Kawhi, acquiring Dame is for building a culture that will help us land Luka, Zion or Mitchell.

All three of those players would come here without Dame Lillard, so that point is moot. Zion is gushing about NY right NOW. Mitchell does not need Dame to want to be here, he was in NY as soon as his season ended. Luka would die to be in an envioremt like the garden.


So no.we dont need to mortage the future for those players to come. That same culture is being built without dame right now as we speak.

That's dumb. These players don't make emotional decisions. They will draw lines. And the line if simple - if Knicks have sucked for another 5 years, which will make it 13 in a row, they will not come here. Simple as that.

I don't care what Zion says or where Mitch goes in his free time. This shows no intentions at all. In fact, it's probably just acting for making their owners spend and land some other high calibre player.

whats dumb is thinking, clear out future assets to have these players come to a bare cupboard.

Players make emotional decisions all the time. Kwahi Leonard is a clear example. Dude left a championship team that could have paid him more money, to be in the market he wanted to be in. The NBA is littered with players making emotional choices on where to go. You must have a short memory.

[thebuzzardman]

If the Knicks were going to make trades etc, I'd think of signing CP3 and then using some of that draft capital to get SGA

Or even Lowry, trade for SGA. Assuming Lowry isn't washed and he looked a little suspect last year.

Again, I don't think the Knicks have enough to even acquire SGA and this assumes CP3 would want to leave Phoenix, and I have no idea if winning or losing in the finals improves the chances or doesn't matter.

Also, I think CP3 would eat up most of the cap anyway. I mean, there would be money left over, but not for another max guy. But it would be away to compete at a higher level for 2 years, maintain more assets and try again, while a lot of the team is still young.

[KnicksGadfly]

All three of those players would come here without Dame Lillard, so that point is moot. Zion is gushing about NY right NOW. Mitchell does not need Dame to want to be here, he was in NY as soon as his season ended. Luka would die to be in an envioremt like the garden.


So no.we dont need to mortage the future for those players to come. That same culture is being built without dame right now as we speak.

That's dumb. These players don't make emotional decisions. They will draw lines. And the line if simple - if Knicks have sucked for another 5 years, which will make it 13 in a row, they will not come here. Simple as that.

I don't care what Zion says or where Mitch goes in his free time. This shows no intentions at all. In fact, it's probably just acting for making their owners spend and land some other high calibre player.

whats dumb is thinking, clear out future assets to have these players come to a bare cupboard.

Players make emotional decisions all the time. Kwahi Leonard is a clear example. Dude left a championship team that could have paid him more money, to be in the market he wanted to be in. The NBA is littered with players making emotional choices on where to go. You must have a short memory.

And yet Kawhi made the Clippers clear the cupboard to bring in PG13 first. If that was him being emotional, I’d hate to see him when he is logical

[Montmorencie]

Come here, name me one team other than Warriors in 70+ years of existence of the NBA that won a championship without a trade of a superstar and didn't draft one and I will say I was wrong.

Because we haven't drafted a superstar nor we will draft in the future. RJ, Quick and Mitch are not going to be superstars. The late 20's won't going to be superstar. Hell, even Julius is not going to be superstar.

And no superstar in 2020-ies = no contention.

No contention = no Zion or Luka.

70 years of significant statistical proof vs "players make emotional decisions, they will choose to come here and play with 16ppg lacking RJ Barrett". Sure man, sure. Use brain sometimes, not the heart.

[TerrenceClarke]

That's dumb. These players don't make emotional decisions. They will draw lines. And the line if simple - if Knicks have sucked for another 5 years, which will make it 13 in a row, they will not come here. Simple as that.

I don't care what Zion says or where Mitch goes in his free time. This shows no intentions at all. In fact, it's probably just acting for making their owners spend and land some other high calibre player.

whats dumb is thinking, clear out future assets to have these players come to a bare cupboard.

Players make emotional decisions all the time. Kwahi Leonard is a clear example. Dude left a championship team that could have paid him more money, to be in the market he wanted to be in. The NBA is littered with players making emotional choices on where to go. You must have a short memory.

And yet Kawhi made the Clippers clear the cupboard to bring in PG13 first. If that was him being emotional, I’d hate to see him when he is logical

Yeah and look at them now. Two years in a row they bounced out. Clippers have no future assets for a long time and by the looks of it no rings either. So in essence Kwahi was dumb for forcing their hand, cause they no longer can easily retool.

He swore they would get a chip ASAP and he was wrong.


Logical is prob he goes back to back with Toronto. Potentially even going for a 3 peat this season.

[Spree2Houston]

My thinking is he will prefer the Lakers. If Portland decides to trade Lillard, I think they will blow the whole thing up and rebuild. I don't see them wanting AD for Lilliard. It will need to be a 3-team trade. We could become that 3rd team. Would you guys be imposed to trading picks + assets for AD? He's only 28.

[DaGawd]

My thinking is he will prefer the Lakers. If Portland decides to trade Lillard, I think they will blow the whole thing up and rebuild. I don't see them wanting AD for Lilliard. It will need to be a 3-team trade. We could become that 3rd team. Would you guys be imposed to trading picks + assets for AD? He's only 28.

There’s already proof AD needs to be next to a dude like Bron on a real title contender. Wouldn’t make much sense for us

[GONYK]

My thinking is he will prefer the Lakers. If Portland decides to trade Lillard, I think they will blow the whole thing up and rebuild. I don't see them wanting AD for Lilliard. It will need to be a 3-team trade. We could become that 3rd team. Would you guys be imposed to trading picks + assets for AD? He's only 28.

There’s already proof AD needs to be next to a dude like Bron on a real title contender. Wouldn’t make much sense for us

The Lakers aren't swapping AD for Dame, and if they were, Portland would just take him.

[BowlRips]

Firstly, I don't think Dame gets traded this offseason. There's no realistic place for him to go or player to team up with. I think this pushes to 2022. And that scenario is really what is best for the Knicks.

I would use 2021-2022 to see if Randle could truly be your #2 and determine what we really have in IQ, RJ, Toppin, Robinson and our pick this year.
We are not at the point, where we can determine our path forward. There are too many open questions.

That could change alot by the 2022 trade deadline and 2022 offseason. And if we learn that Randle is not the right guy, you could move him or opt not to resign him and then trade for Dame with an idea of who would join him in 2022 FA. If you learn Randle is that right guy it makes it all easier.

The scenario for trading for Dame, only becomes clear if Kawhi is set to join him this off-season, which would be a no-brainer and the cost is not really going to matter.

[JohnStarksTheDunk]

Dame is better than Beal for sure, but neither Dame/Randle nor Beal/Randle is getting us a title on their own, so if we are going to empty the cupboard for one of those guys, I'd rather it be Beal, who is 3 years younger and about $10 million cheaper per year.

[sol537]

Sign Lowry. Trade for Beal or Lavine.

Lowry, Beal, RJ, Randle, Robinson... Suns EAST. Let's get it.

[DaGawd]

Dame is better than Beal for sure, but neither Dame/Randle nor Beal/Randle is getting us a title on their own, so if we are going to empty the cupboard for one of those guys, I'd rather it be Beal, who is 3 years younger and about $10 million cheaper per year.

I think the FO knows this and if we do trade for Dame it’s worth the idea of getting a 3rd max player to go with he and Randle

[KnixinSix]

Dame is better than Beal for sure, but neither Dame/Randle nor Beal/Randle is getting us a title on their own, so if we are going to empty the cupboard for one of those guys, I'd rather it be Beal, who is 3 years younger and about $10 million cheaper per year.

I think the FO knows this and if we do trade for Dame it’s worth the idea of getting a 3rd max player to go with he and Randle

article in the athletic....
on trading lillard said the knicks have a huge advantage in being able to absorb the salary. I wonder if POR would really be willing to accept less to save money. The article references it more as a chance to start over then saving money, but nevertheless.