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OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!)

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Who are you voting?

Poll ended at Thu Nov 7, 2024 8:05 pm

Dr. Jill Stein
3
5%
Dr. Cornel West
1
2%
Chase Oliver
0
No votes
Claudia De la Cruz
0
No votes
Kamala Harris
35
56%
Donald J. Trump
14
22%
Writing myself in
2
3%
Not voting
6
10%
Other
2
3%
 
Total votes: 63

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#501 » by spree8 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:04 pm

Rich Rane wrote:
spree8 wrote:https://thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-philly-man-indicted-for-threatening-pa-poll-worker-is-a-democrat-poll-worker-supports-trump


Just gonna chime in and say while I don't know if what the article stated actually happened, but the source you used has been known to lean far-right and is also known to publish fake stories.

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Yea I know, that’s the lengths I had to go to, to find the party affiliation like I prefaced with. It’s a real story that happened and it’s being reported everywhere by all the major media companies on the left and it’s even on the official US gov website. But again, the party affiliation conveniently is omitted. If he were a republican, do you really think CNN would be leaving that out of the story?
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#502 » by Mister Ed » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:44 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/virginia-voter-roll-purge-supreme-court-appeal-rcna177778

The Supreme Court on Wednesday granted Virginia’s emergency request to revive Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s systematic purge of voter rolls ahead of Election Day.

The court's three Democratic appointees dissented from the order.

A federal judge on Friday had blocked the state’s program, citing the National Voter Registration Act. That federal law bars states from systematically removing ineligible voters within 90 days of a federal election. Virginia argued to the justices that the law doesn’t apply to removing noncitizens and that its removal process is individualized, not systematic.

Opposing the emergency bid alongside voting rights groups, the federal government said that Virginia has “no legitimate interest in continuing practices that plainly violated federal law.” The government said that state officials “pervasively invoke alleged harms that they have failed to prove. ... Notably, applicants have provided no reason to believe that any noncitizens have voted in past Virginia elections, or that any are likely to do so in the upcoming election.”


Interesting that Republicans go to such lengths less than a week from election day to stop people from voting.


You mean like Democrats going to Court to try and prevent 3rd party candidate RFK Jr. from being allowed on the ballots - and then when RFK Jr. cancels his campaign to join with Trump - going to Court to try and prevent RFK Jr. from removing his name from the ballots. That's priceless.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#503 » by Pointgod » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:48 pm

spree8 wrote:
DOT wrote:"Free thinkers" will see this stuff and go "wow, only Trump supporters are the ones committing fraud and trying to destroy ballots, clearly the Dems are just that good at rigging the system they don't get caught"

Because to the conspiracy theorist, the absence of evidence is evidence of a cover-up.



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Had to really dig to find party affiliation on this one…

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Pollard reached out to her, saying he was "interested in being a poll watcher." When she didn't respond within nine minutes, he sent "I will KILL YOU IF YOU DON'T ANSWER ME!" A few seconds later, he sent the message "Your days are numbered, B*TCH!" This was followed by the gruesome "GONNA F*CKING FIND YOU AND SKIN YOU ALIVE AND USE YOUR SKIN FOR F*CKING TOILET PAPER, YOU F*CKING KKK*NT!" The last message was sent only 10 minutes after he'd sent his first inquiry.

"We immediately found the name that was attached to the number," she said, "and using public records, we realized he was a Democrat. We reported all of that to the police."

https://thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-philly-man-indicted-for-threatening-pa-poll-worker-is-a-democrat-poll-worker-supports-trump

Like I said, there’s crazy people on both sides…


Hahaha you’re citing Jack Probosic who’s a god damn liar and Republican operative as proof? There’s literally been no evidence that the person was a Democrat threatening a Republican and if you can even look at the actual indictment. Feel free to link me to reliable evidence this person was a Democrat, not a know liar like Jack Probiotic.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/philadelphia-resident-charged-election-related-threat-state-party-representative

Neither Pollard's party affiliation nor the victim's was mentioned in his court records. Pollard was indicted Oct. 16 and the charges were unsealed Monday after his arrest. He has not yet made a formal court appearance and his lawyer was not listed in court records.


Threats against election workers exploded after the 2020 election, as then-President Donald Trump and his supporters falsely claimed widespread fraud. The claims − and threats − continue despite investigations by his fellow Republicans that found no problems significant enough to change the outcome.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/21/election-threats-philadelphia-skin-kill/75781820007/
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#504 » by Pointgod » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:50 pm

Mister Ed wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/virginia-voter-roll-purge-supreme-court-appeal-rcna177778

The Supreme Court on Wednesday granted Virginia’s emergency request to revive Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s systematic purge of voter rolls ahead of Election Day.

The court's three Democratic appointees dissented from the order.

A federal judge on Friday had blocked the state’s program, citing the National Voter Registration Act. That federal law bars states from systematically removing ineligible voters within 90 days of a federal election. Virginia argued to the justices that the law doesn’t apply to removing noncitizens and that its removal process is individualized, not systematic.

Opposing the emergency bid alongside voting rights groups, the federal government said that Virginia has “no legitimate interest in continuing practices that plainly violated federal law.” The government said that state officials “pervasively invoke alleged harms that they have failed to prove. ... Notably, applicants have provided no reason to believe that any noncitizens have voted in past Virginia elections, or that any are likely to do so in the upcoming election.”


Interesting that Republicans go to such lengths less than a week from election day to stop people from voting.


You mean like Democrats going to Court to try and prevent 3rd party candidate RFK Jr. from being allowed on the ballots - and then when RFK Jr. cancels his campaign to join with Trump - going to Court to try and prevent RFK Jr. from removing his name from the ballots. That's priceless.


Do you understand that each state has rules about being on the ballot? And in some states if you ignore those rules you can be removed off the ballot. I find that all grievances from the Trump cult or Trump defenders come from the fact that you literally don’t know how anything works.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#505 » by Pointgod » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:52 pm

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#506 » by Fury » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:54 pm

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He should remember it's both sides that do it though. He needs to be fair.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#507 » by DOT » Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:58 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Mister Ed wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/virginia-voter-roll-purge-supreme-court-appeal-rcna177778



Interesting that Republicans go to such lengths less than a week from election day to stop people from voting.


You mean like Democrats going to Court to try and prevent 3rd party candidate RFK Jr. from being allowed on the ballots - and then when RFK Jr. cancels his campaign to join with Trump - going to Court to try and prevent RFK Jr. from removing his name from the ballots. That's priceless.


Do you understand that each state has rules about being on the ballot? And in some states if you ignore those rules you can be removed off the ballot. I find that all grievances from the Trump cult or Trump defenders come from the fact that you literally don’t know how anything works.

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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#508 » by spree8 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:14 pm

Pointgod wrote:
spree8 wrote:
DOT wrote:"Free thinkers" will see this stuff and go "wow, only Trump supporters are the ones committing fraud and trying to destroy ballots, clearly the Dems are just that good at rigging the system they don't get caught"

Because to the conspiracy theorist, the absence of evidence is evidence of a cover-up.



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Had to really dig to find party affiliation on this one…

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Pollard reached out to her, saying he was "interested in being a poll watcher." When she didn't respond within nine minutes, he sent "I will KILL YOU IF YOU DON'T ANSWER ME!" A few seconds later, he sent the message "Your days are numbered, B*TCH!" This was followed by the gruesome "GONNA F*CKING FIND YOU AND SKIN YOU ALIVE AND USE YOUR SKIN FOR F*CKING TOILET PAPER, YOU F*CKING KKK*NT!" The last message was sent only 10 minutes after he'd sent his first inquiry.

"We immediately found the name that was attached to the number," she said, "and using public records, we realized he was a Democrat. We reported all of that to the police."

https://thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-philly-man-indicted-for-threatening-pa-poll-worker-is-a-democrat-poll-worker-supports-trump

Like I said, there’s crazy people on both sides…


Hahaha you’re citing Jack Probosic who’s a god damn liar and Republican operative as proof? There’s literally been no evidence that the person was a Democrat threatening a Republican and if you can even look at the actual indictment. Feel free to link me to reliable evidence this person was a Democrat, not a know liar like Jack Probiotic.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/philadelphia-resident-charged-election-related-threat-state-party-representative

Neither Pollard's party affiliation nor the victim's was mentioned in his court records. Pollard was indicted Oct. 16 and the charges were unsealed Monday after his arrest. He has not yet made a formal court appearance and his lawyer was not listed in court records.


Threats against election workers exploded after the 2020 election, as then-President Donald Trump and his supporters falsely claimed widespread fraud. The claims − and threats − continue despite investigations by his fellow Republicans that found no problems significant enough to change the outcome.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/21/election-threats-philadelphia-skin-kill/75781820007/



You’re not listing anything besides the fact it wasn’t listed in his court records. That doesn’t mean anything. It wasn’t the reporter who found his party affiliation by his phone number/public record, it was Linda Kerns the Republican National Committee's election integrity council for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania… so how does that discredit anything? The staffer was also republican. These are just quotes from them, what does that have to do with the reporter or his reputation? These are direct quotes from these people. Find the guys public info if you have the time and post it yourself if you want to prove this wrong.

And not for nothing but don’t you think him using “KKK*nt” is a dead giveaway? Lol
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#509 » by Fury » Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:29 pm

spree8 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
spree8 wrote:

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Had to really dig to find party affiliation on this one…

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Pollard reached out to her, saying he was "interested in being a poll watcher." When she didn't respond within nine minutes, he sent "I will KILL YOU IF YOU DON'T ANSWER ME!" A few seconds later, he sent the message "Your days are numbered, B*TCH!" This was followed by the gruesome "GONNA F*CKING FIND YOU AND SKIN YOU ALIVE AND USE YOUR SKIN FOR F*CKING TOILET PAPER, YOU F*CKING KKK*NT!" The last message was sent only 10 minutes after he'd sent his first inquiry.

"We immediately found the name that was attached to the number," she said, "and using public records, we realized he was a Democrat. We reported all of that to the police."

https://thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-philly-man-indicted-for-threatening-pa-poll-worker-is-a-democrat-poll-worker-supports-trump

Like I said, there’s crazy people on both sides…


Hahaha you’re citing Jack Probosic who’s a god damn liar and Republican operative as proof? There’s literally been no evidence that the person was a Democrat threatening a Republican and if you can even look at the actual indictment. Feel free to link me to reliable evidence this person was a Democrat, not a know liar like Jack Probiotic.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/philadelphia-resident-charged-election-related-threat-state-party-representative

Neither Pollard's party affiliation nor the victim's was mentioned in his court records. Pollard was indicted Oct. 16 and the charges were unsealed Monday after his arrest. He has not yet made a formal court appearance and his lawyer was not listed in court records.


Threats against election workers exploded after the 2020 election, as then-President Donald Trump and his supporters falsely claimed widespread fraud. The claims − and threats − continue despite investigations by his fellow Republicans that found no problems significant enough to change the outcome.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/21/election-threats-philadelphia-skin-kill/75781820007/



You’re not listing anything besides the fact it wasn’t listed in his court records. That doesn’t mean anything. It wasn’t the reporter who found his party affiliation by his phone number/public record, it was Linda Kerns the Republican National Committee's election integrity council for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania… so how does that discredit anything? The staffer was also republican. These are just quotes from them, what does that have to do with the reporter or his reputation? These are direct quotes from these people. Find the guys public info if you have the time and post it yourself if you want to prove this wrong.

And not for nothing but don’t you think him using “KKK*nt” is a dead giveaway? Lol


There isn't any proof.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#510 » by Fury » Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:32 pm

Another thing, while that guy may be nuts, all he did was text. And that's not even the real story:

The state party employee posted on a social media platform last month seeking volunteers to "observe at the polls on Election Day" and included a personal cell phone number. Pennsylvania and many other states allow outside observers to monitor polling locations and lodge certain objection


How the **** do you overlook this?
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#511 » by spree8 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:37 pm

Fury wrote:Another thing, while that guy may be nuts, all he did was text. And that's not even the real story:

The state party employee posted on a social media platform last month seeking volunteers to "observe at the polls on Election Day" and included a personal cell phone number. Pennsylvania and many other states allow outside observers to monitor polling locations and lodge certain objection


How the **** do you overlook this?



Who overlooked that?

The reason her cell phone and email address were posted was because the poll workers make themselves so available to these voters, and we have voters constantly calling us, asking us questions," Kerns said, giving credit to the staffers for working so hard to make sure that voters are able to ask questions about polling and process and have them answered”
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#512 » by Fury » Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:38 pm

spree8 wrote:
Fury wrote:Another thing, while that guy may be nuts, all he did was text. And that's not even the real story:

The state party employee posted on a social media platform last month seeking volunteers to "observe at the polls on Election Day" and included a personal cell phone number. Pennsylvania and many other states allow outside observers to monitor polling locations and lodge certain objection


How the **** do you overlook this?



Who overlooked that?

The reason her cell phone and email address were posted was because the poll workers make themselves so available to these voters, and we have voters constantly calling us, asking us questions," Kerns said, giving credit to the staffers for working so hard to make sure that voters are able to ask questions about polling and process and have them answered”


“Observe at the polls”?

Why you ignoring that? Do you know what that means?
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#513 » by spree8 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:00 pm

Fury wrote:
spree8 wrote:
Fury wrote:Another thing, while that guy may be nuts, all he did was text. And that's not even the real story:



How the **** do you overlook this?



Who overlooked that?

The reason her cell phone and email address were posted was because the poll workers make themselves so available to these voters, and we have voters constantly calling us, asking us questions," Kerns said, giving credit to the staffers for working so hard to make sure that voters are able to ask questions about polling and process and have them answered”


“Observe at the polls”?

Why you ignoring that? Do you know what that means?


I’m not ignoring it? What’s it mean?
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#514 » by Fury » Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:09 pm

spree8 wrote:
Fury wrote:
spree8 wrote:

Who overlooked that?

The reason her cell phone and email address were posted was because the poll workers make themselves so available to these voters, and we have voters constantly calling us, asking us questions," Kerns said, giving credit to the staffers for working so hard to make sure that voters are able to ask questions about polling and process and have them answered”


“Observe at the polls”?

Why you ignoring that? Do you know what that means?


I’m not ignoring it? What’s it mean?


After all that **** Trump said about elections being rigged, poll watchers are there to intimidate people who aren't voting for the candidate they want. In a swing state, this **** is gonna be an issue because of Trump's rhetoric. Accusing an entire party of people of cheating + poll watchers is gonna cause chaos.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#515 » by robillionaire » Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:21 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Mister Ed wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/virginia-voter-roll-purge-supreme-court-appeal-rcna177778



Interesting that Republicans go to such lengths less than a week from election day to stop people from voting.


You mean like Democrats going to Court to try and prevent 3rd party candidate RFK Jr. from being allowed on the ballots - and then when RFK Jr. cancels his campaign to join with Trump - going to Court to try and prevent RFK Jr. from removing his name from the ballots. That's priceless.


Do you understand that each state has rules about being on the ballot? And in some states if you ignore those rules you can be removed off the ballot. I find that all grievances from the Trump cult or Trump defenders come from the fact that you literally don’t know how anything works.


In my state RFK went to court and sued to get off the ballot after the deadline to do so was already over and partisan maga judge sided with him despite the law saying otherwise and made the state delay mailing out ballots destroy and reprint them without his name on it all at a massive cost to the taxpayer. All for some little election interference scheme. So even this example isn’t doing much for me
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#516 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:32 pm

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Yep. The internal data must be horrible for PA if he's already crying about it.

Also, the same guy who made a "perfect call" to the Georgia SoS to ask him to commit election fraud complaining about cheating is just another reminder that he should already be in prison.

Also, shout out to Merrick Garland who sent Elon a sternly worded letter instead of arresting him outright for violating federal law by offering voters in PA money.
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Post#517 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:40 pm

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spree8 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Hahaha you’re citing Jack Probosic who’s a god damn liar and Republican operative as proof? There’s literally been no evidence that the person was a Democrat threatening a Republican and if you can even look at the actual indictment. Feel free to link me to reliable evidence this person was a Democrat, not a know liar like Jack Probiotic.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/philadelphia-resident-charged-election-related-threat-state-party-representative





https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/21/election-threats-philadelphia-skin-kill/75781820007/



You’re not listing anything besides the fact it wasn’t listed in his court records. That doesn’t mean anything. It wasn’t the reporter who found his party affiliation by his phone number/public record, it was Linda Kerns the Republican National Committee's election integrity council for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania… so how does that discredit anything? The staffer was also republican. These are just quotes from them, what does that have to do with the reporter or his reputation? These are direct quotes from these people. Find the guys public info if you have the time and post it yourself if you want to prove this wrong.

And not for nothing but don’t you think him using “KKK*nt” is a dead giveaway? Lol


There isn't any proof.


Ah, Jack Posobiec.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/jack-posobiec#white-supremacists

The same far right white supremacist and known propagandist that seems to often spread Russian based disinformation to his network of nazi and 4chan troll followers?

Very interesting that he is being used as a source in this discussion regarding "both sides".

I dunno if it's just me but using a known neo nazi liar as a source of information to prove a point doesn't seem like a good idea if you're trying to present one side is just as bad as the others.

Carry on. Just making an observation.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#518 » by spree8 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:45 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Ah, Jack Posobiec.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/jack-posobiec#white-supremacists

The same far right white supremacist and known propagandist that seems to often spread Russian based disinformation to his network of nazi and 4chan troll followers?

Very interesting that he is being used as a source in this discussion regarding "both sides".

I dunno if it's just me but using a known neo nazi liar as a source of information to prove a point doesn't seem like a good idea if you're trying to present one side is just as bad as the others.

Carry on. Just making an observation.


spree8 wrote:You’re not listing anything besides the fact it wasn’t listed in his court records. That doesn’t mean anything. It wasn’t the reporter who found his party affiliation by his phone number/public record, it was Linda Kerns the Republican National Committee's election integrity council for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania… so how does that discredit anything? The staffer was also republican. These are just quotes from them, what does that have to do with the reporter or his reputation? These are direct quotes from these people. Find the guys public info if you have the time and post it yourself if you want to prove this wrong.

And not for nothing but don’t you think him using “KKK*nt” is a dead giveaway? Lol
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#519 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:48 pm

Mister Ed wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/virginia-voter-roll-purge-supreme-court-appeal-rcna177778

The Supreme Court on Wednesday granted Virginia’s emergency request to revive Republican Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s systematic purge of voter rolls ahead of Election Day.

The court's three Democratic appointees dissented from the order.

A federal judge on Friday had blocked the state’s program, citing the National Voter Registration Act. That federal law bars states from systematically removing ineligible voters within 90 days of a federal election. Virginia argued to the justices that the law doesn’t apply to removing noncitizens and that its removal process is individualized, not systematic.

Opposing the emergency bid alongside voting rights groups, the federal government said that Virginia has “no legitimate interest in continuing practices that plainly violated federal law.” The government said that state officials “pervasively invoke alleged harms that they have failed to prove. ... Notably, applicants have provided no reason to believe that any noncitizens have voted in past Virginia elections, or that any are likely to do so in the upcoming election.”


Interesting that Republicans go to such lengths less than a week from election day to stop people from voting.


You mean like Democrats going to Court to try and prevent 3rd party candidate RFK Jr. from being allowed on the ballots - and then when RFK Jr. cancels his campaign to join with Trump - going to Court to try and prevent RFK Jr. from removing his name from the ballots. That's priceless.


RFK being prevented from removing his name from ballots after state deadlines isn't the same as actual voters being removed from rolls under highly dubious criteria less than a week before the election.

Civics classes need to be mandatory in this country and this response is an excellent example as to why.
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Re: OT: USA 2024 Elections Thread Part # 2 (November 5th is Election Day!) 

Post#520 » by DOT » Wed Oct 30, 2024 7:06 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Civics classes need to be mandatory in this country and this response is an excellent example as to why.

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BaF Lakers:

Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela

Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.

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