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[NoDopeOnSundays]

Imagine using AI to fight for you.

You right now

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Instead of dancing around the bush, answer the question. Do you think a new coach is winning a championship with this roster?

Why would I ever fight against Straw Men? The machine just caught you out there on front street. I fight smarter, not harder. You're the goat herder in the mountain shooting at my predator drone while I'm in an air-cooled trailer somewhere halfway across the earth.

Brother, I don't meet the demands of terrorists either, imagine coming up with a nasty strawman (AI verified) and then trying to have some fair discussion.

I knew you wouldn’t answer the question because you have an agenda. And if you answer the question, it compromises your whole agenda you’re too predictable.

So predictable that you didn't see the AI tag in coming, maybe I've been using AIs against you for a while now, maybe everything I've posted has been AI. Maybe I have, and maybe I haven't. You will never know for sure


I don't answer questions after people pose AI verified Strawmen arguments, they have no honor, which Skynet and the Matrix confirmed.

[Reign23]

lets **** go LAL tonight!

[Reign23]

watched the Ja injury for the first time. I don't think Dort did anything intentional here..

[3toheadmelo]

Why would I ever fight against Straw Men? The machine just caught you out there on front street. I fight smarter, not harder. You're the goat herder in the mountain shooting at my predator drone while I'm in an air-cooled trailer somewhere halfway across the earth.

Brother, I don't meet the demands of terrorists either, imagine coming up with a nasty strawman (AI verified) and then trying to have some fair discussion.

I knew you wouldn’t answer the question because you have an agenda. And if you answer the question, it compromises your whole agenda you’re too predictable.

So predictable that you didn't see the AI tag in coming, maybe I've been using AIs against you for a while now, maybe everything I've posted has been AI. Maybe I have, and maybe I haven't. You will never know for sure


I don't answer questions after people pose AI verified Strawmen arguments, they have no honor, which Skynet and the Matrix confirmed.

You just dancing around the bush cause you know if you answer it, your whole agenda is compromised

I got you backed in a corner now. Trying to use AI as your lawyer to avoid answering a question. AI can’t save you bredren. You gonna end up like Tay K.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I knew you wouldn’t answer the question because you have an agenda. And if you answer the question, it compromises your whole agenda you’re too predictable.

So predictable that you didn't see the AI tag in coming, maybe I've been using AIs against you for a while now, maybe everything I've posted has been AI. Maybe I have, and maybe I haven't. You will never know for sure


I don't answer questions after people pose AI verified Strawmen arguments, they have no honor, which Skynet and the Matrix confirmed.

You just dancing around the bush cause you know if you answer it, your whole agenda is compromised

I got you backed in a corner now. Trying to use AI as your lawyer to avoid answering a question. AI can’t save you bredren. You gonna end up like Tay K.

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Me -





Tay K murdered someone, are you implying that I'm murdering your points?

[spree2kawhi]

If Kawhi wins a championship and another Finals MVP, will he surpass Durant on the all-time list?

Or will "load management" forever be the asterisk on Kawhi's legacy?

I think if he wins with these Clippers, he doesn’t merely surpass Durant…

[3toheadmelo]

So predictable that you didn't see the AI tag in coming, maybe I've been using AIs against you for a while now, maybe everything I've posted has been AI. Maybe I have, and maybe I haven't. You will never know for sure


I don't answer questions after people pose AI verified Strawmen arguments, they have no honor, which Skynet and the Matrix confirmed.

You just dancing around the bush cause you know if you answer it, your whole agenda is compromised

I got you backed in a corner now. Trying to use AI as your lawyer to avoid answering a question. AI can’t save you bredren. You gonna end up like Tay K.

You -




Me -





Tay K murdered someone, are you implying that I'm murdering your points?

No I’m implying that using AI as a lawyer is gonna have you in jail for the rest of your life along with a receding hairline and neck rolls like Tay K

[NoDopeOnSundays]

You just dancing around the bush cause you know if you answer it, your whole agenda is compromised

I got you backed in a corner now. Trying to use AI as your lawyer to avoid answering a question. AI can’t save you bredren. You gonna end up like Tay K.

You -




Me -





Tay K murdered someone, are you implying that I'm murdering your points?

No I’m implying that using AI as a lawyer is gonna have you in jail for the rest of your life along with a receding hairline and neck rolls like Tay K

I know it burns that you weren't the first to use AI that way, you'll adopt it eventually, but now I'll just say you're copying my whole flow, word for word bar for bar

Just repeating that I'm Tay K, doesn't change the factual fact that Allen Iverson said you were not to be trusted in a good faith debate. A logic-based machine, that has the entire internet at its disposal said you were the opposite of good faith

[Chanel Bomber]

No team with your mans as head coach is winning a title, yet another self-inflicted wound. MeLonoma strikes again.

You think a new coach is winning a championship with this poorly fit roster?

Rather than just argue with you, I asked an impartial cold and calculated machine what it thinks.






Even the AI's know MeLonama is a serious disease. When the machines come to rule, you're in trouble.

A crushing defeat for 3tohead right there.

Wow

[spree2kawhi]

Spoiler:

No team with your mans as head coach is winning a title, yet another self-inflicted wound. MeLonoma strikes again.

You think a new coach is winning a championship with this poorly fit roster?

Rather than just argue with you, I asked an impartial cold and calculated machine what it thinks.






Even the AI's know MeLonama is a serious disease. When the machines come to rule, you're in trouble.

Well played The machine gets it, and I like the clarity and language especially of the conclusion. The behavior in question is just low and tiresome and it really has been going on for too long here.

[mpharris36]

When you’re watching this team perform like it does, do you really think the difference between us competing with the Celtics and OKC is coaching ?

Your targeting like the two top teams in the league...you can't just be like hey we either have the best team in the league or we don't so we shouldn't go for it mentality.

But I look at us vs the teams that should be on our tier and think we are far more talented and wasting it away with mediocre/system coaching.

Wasn’t the whole point of going all in our assets was to be on the same tier as Boston and OKC though? So we have to compare us to those teams. What was the point of going all in just to be arguably worse than last year’s team then?

Your not entirely wrong but its beyond tough to be on that tier. That doesn't mean because you aren't on that tier you cant win a series against them (based on health, performance ect if things fall right). I think having a floor of a 50 win team with upside certainly isn't a bad place to be in.

We will always have some gap towards the top 2 teams because our 2 best players aren't great defenders. That doesn't mean they aren't good. They are two of the better players in the NBA. Its just BOS and OKC really don't have much weak links in terms of defense that you can consistently seek out. With Brunson we have an elite offensive hub and closer...but he will always get picked on defensively. KAT has picked it up in the playoffs but we know he is a high level defender either. It will always be something we have to overcome playing those teams.

If you always waiting for the move that would have clearly put us on that tier you probably waste away Brunson prime and that shouldn't be the case either.

This roster isn't a 1st round exit...or 2nd round get the doors blown off team though...that is where I put that on the margins with Thibs.

[3toheadmelo]

You -




Me -





Tay K murdered someone, are you implying that I'm murdering your points?

No I’m implying that using AI as a lawyer is gonna have you in jail for the rest of your life along with a receding hairline and neck rolls like Tay K

I know it burns that you weren't the first to use AI that way, you'll adopt it eventually, but now I'll just say you're copying my whole flow, word for word bar for bar

Just repeating that I'm Tay K, doesn't change the factual fact that Allen Iverson said you were not to be trusted in a good faith debate. A logic-based machine, that has the entire internet at its disposal said you were the opposite of good faith

Using flawed AI to battle your arguments

[3toheadmelo]

You think a new coach is winning a championship with this poorly fit roster?

Rather than just argue with you, I asked an impartial cold and calculated machine what it thinks.






Even the AI's know MeLonama is a serious disease. When the machines come to rule, you're in trouble.

A crushing defeat for 3tohead right there.

Wow

Im on your ass mf

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[spree2kawhi]

Your targeting like the two top teams in the league...you can't just be like hey we either have the best team in the league or we don't so we shouldn't go for it mentality.

But I look at us vs the teams that should be on our tier and think we are far more talented and wasting it away with mediocre/system coaching.

Wasn’t the whole point of going all in our assets was to be on the same tier as Boston and OKC though? So we have to compare us to those teams. What was the point of going all in just to be arguably worse than last year’s team then?

Your not entirely wrong but its beyond tough to be on that tier. That doesn't mean because you aren't on that tier you cant win a series against them (based on health, performance ect if things fall right). I think having a floor of a 50 win team with upside certainly isn't a bad place to be in.

We will always have some gap towards the top 2 teams because our 2 best players aren't great defenders. That doesn't mean they aren't good. They are two of the better players in the NBA. Its just BOS and OKC really don't have much weak links in terms of defense that you can consistently seek out. With Brunson we have an elite offensive hub and closer...but he will always get picked on defensively. KAT has picked it up in the playoffs but we know he is a high level defender either. It will always be something we have to overcome playing those teams.

If you always waiting for the move that would have clearly put us on that tier you probably waste away Brunson prime and that shouldn't be the case either.

This roster isn't a 1st round exit...or 2nd round get the doors blown off team though...that is where I put that on the margins with Thibs.

A lot of what has been posted today has been good for this board and I agree with everything you said here, too. We’re seeing this team in its first months together. Ball movement, off the ball movement are good, the wings can defend and score, actually we have four reliable scorers, and this is only the first year. This team is still relying heavily on 1-on-1 scoring situations, and that’s a sign of lacking cohesion, trust and reps. Better coaching may help, but most importantly, give this time. Boston is incredibly good and so is OKC, but we should be able to move past the Cavs and also legitimately challenge the other two. The Cavs have shown the difference a year can make and I don’t see why a team this talented should be any different. All our guys have shown significant signs and then some. This team has the talent that it takes.

[3toheadmelo]

Your targeting like the two top teams in the league...you can't just be like hey we either have the best team in the league or we don't so we shouldn't go for it mentality.

But I look at us vs the teams that should be on our tier and think we are far more talented and wasting it away with mediocre/system coaching.

Wasn’t the whole point of going all in our assets was to be on the same tier as Boston and OKC though? So we have to compare us to those teams. What was the point of going all in just to be arguably worse than last year’s team then?

Your not entirely wrong but its beyond tough to be on that tier. That doesn't mean because you aren't on that tier you cant win a series against them (based on health, performance ect if things fall right). I think having a floor of a 50 win team with upside certainly isn't a bad place to be in.

We will always have some gap towards the top 2 teams because our 2 best players aren't great defenders. That doesn't mean they aren't good. They are two of the better players in the NBA. Its just BOS and OKC really don't have much weak links in terms of defense that you can consistently seek out. With Brunson we have an elite offensive hub and closer...but he will always get picked on defensively. KAT has picked it up in the playoffs but we know he is a high level defender either. It will always be something we have to overcome playing those teams.

If you always waiting for the move that would have clearly put us on that tier you probably waste away Brunson prime and that shouldn't be the case either.

This roster isn't a 1st round exit...or 2nd round get the doors blown off team though...that is where I put that on the margins with Thibs.

It just feels like we are betting against ourselves if we are hoping we can win with multiple bad defenders and their offense isn’t good enough to make up for it (besides Brunson).

But we’re wasting Brunson’s prime right now by being locked in a core that isn’t going to win a chip. We just wasted our assets. It’s really to me about using all of our assets and it didn’t even make us really better. I personally would’ve just stuck with what we had from last year and traded for a rim protector like Kessler. Then save the rest of your assets for someone else when they become available. Hell we actually even had the opportunity to get Donovan Mitchell a couple years ago, who would’ve been a major help for us. It’s puzzling to me that after all these years of us “waiting on that big fish” we used all of our assets on two players that didn’t do anything to make us a championship contender.

Personally for me, I think hiring a new coach is just trying to put a band aid on something that needs surgery. The roster needs to be fixed no matter who the coach is. We are probably gonna fire Thibs after we lose to Boston so I hope we make that leap that you guys think we will under a new coach.

[god shammgod]

if the coaching change isn't going to make us a contender then obviously the roster needs to the change which is what we've been saying all along. i don't think me or melo really care at all if thibs is fired. we just know, and you seem to now be admitting, that it isn't the biggest thing holding us back.

[spree2kawhi]

I think calling for grand action is always the easy thing to do. But if there is no such action out there at all or in the context of that time it could only be called delusional to stand pat and bank on possibly acquiring, say, Giannis Antetokounmpo one day, that same easy statement quickly looks shallow and hypocritical.

Leon Rose took action, and we’re seeing a young and talented, fairly versatile Knicks team for the first time in 25 years. It is beyond me how all someone can keep jawing about is how terrible everything is - without offering any feasible alternatives. Not to say it is his fault, but Giannis will soon be eliminated from the playoffs. The lakers acquired Luka Doncic and they WON’T win it all in year 1. No problem with that. Parity is real. But you can always try.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

No I’m implying that using AI as a lawyer is gonna have you in jail for the rest of your life along with a receding hairline and neck rolls like Tay K

I know it burns that you weren't the first to use AI that way, you'll adopt it eventually, but now I'll just say you're copying my whole flow, word for word bar for bar

Just repeating that I'm Tay K, doesn't change the factual fact that Allen Iverson said you were not to be trusted in a good faith debate. A logic-based machine, that has the entire internet at its disposal said you were the opposite of good faith

Using flawed AI to battle your arguments

Flawed? It's machine learning, it's impartial and elegant in that it's just math, it is the arbiter of truth when it agrees with me. Also, fitting that you're using a picture of a coach that couldn't adapt and change with the times to represent your fear of AI and not wanting to change to a more mobile & agile RealGM battlefield, plus he sucked

[Fury]

if the coaching change isn't going to make us a contender then obviously the roster needs to the change which is what we've been saying all along. i don't think me or melo really care at all if thibs is fired. we just know, and you seem to now be admitting, that it isn't the biggest thing holding us back.

I don't think anyone is saying the roster is perfect either. I don't know why either side has to be so extreme.

[Fury]

Wasn’t the whole point of going all in our assets was to be on the same tier as Boston and OKC though? So we have to compare us to those teams. What was the point of going all in just to be arguably worse than last year’s team then?

Your not entirely wrong but its beyond tough to be on that tier. That doesn't mean because you aren't on that tier you cant win a series against them (based on health, performance ect if things fall right). I think having a floor of a 50 win team with upside certainly isn't a bad place to be in.

We will always have some gap towards the top 2 teams because our 2 best players aren't great defenders. That doesn't mean they aren't good. They are two of the better players in the NBA. Its just BOS and OKC really don't have much weak links in terms of defense that you can consistently seek out. With Brunson we have an elite offensive hub and closer...but he will always get picked on defensively. KAT has picked it up in the playoffs but we know he is a high level defender either. It will always be something we have to overcome playing those teams.

If you always waiting for the move that would have clearly put us on that tier you probably waste away Brunson prime and that shouldn't be the case either.

This roster isn't a 1st round exit...or 2nd round get the doors blown off team though...that is where I put that on the margins with Thibs.

It just feels like we are betting against ourselves if we are hoping we can win with multiple bad defenders and their offense isn’t good enough to make up for it (besides Brunson).

But we’re wasting Brunson’s prime right now by being locked in a core that isn’t going to win a chip. We just wasted our assets. It’s really to me about using all of our assets and it didn’t even make us really better. I personally would’ve just stuck with what we had from last year and traded for a rim protector like Kessler. Then save the rest of your assets for someone else when they become available. Hell we actually even had the opportunity to get Donovan Mitchell a couple years ago, who would’ve been a major help for us. It’s puzzling to me that after all these years of us “waiting on that big fish” we used all of our assets on two players that didn’t do anything to make us a championship contender.

Personally for me, I think hiring a new coach is just trying to put a band aid on something that needs surgery. The roster needs to be fixed no matter who the coach is. We are probably gonna fire Thibs after we lose to Boston so I hope we make that leap that you guys think we will under a new coach.

I hear you about maybe not making the best trades, but the assets we used up, other than the draft picks, had to go. Now or never. Randle and Bojan had to go, they were due extensions. They were depreciating assets. Giannis wasn't available, they went for it. If we traded 3 picks for Kessler (which is what Ainge wanted), we'd have been in a similar situation. If we traded for Mitchell, there is no OG and no other superstar because there's only so much money we can fit under the apron and fill a roster. That's one of the reasons Bridges worked because of his salary.

It doesn't seem like it's worked out how we wanted so far, but we're not that far. There aren't gonna be any crazy ass teams in this league for a long time with the new apron rules. Moves can and will still be made.