[Camelo Thread Part 6] - Update: NJ tries again Pg. 71

[adjacent2bench]

all i have to say to you is don't believe everything you read. after all lebron was supposed to be in a knicks uniform this season.

The difference between Melo and Bron was that the majority of die-hard Knick fans knew Bron coming here was a pipe dream. We would have all been shocked if he decided to play for the Knicks. The fact that Melo rejected playing in Jersey and rejected an extension from Denver with an impending lockout says it all for us.

[duetta]

The other difference is that the Knicks sucked for 8 consecutive years going into the Summer of 2010. We don't suck anymore going into the Summer of 2011 - and Anthony knows that we could have easily beat his Denver club twice - and that we have one of the youngest rosters in the league (which suggests a lot of room for improvement).

[god shammgod]

The other difference is that the Knicks sucked for 8 consecutive years going into the Summer of 2010. We don't suck anymore going into the Summer of 2011 - and Anthony knows that we could have easily beat his Denver club twice - and that we have one of the youngest rosters in the league (which suggests a lot of room for improvement).

being competitive definitely helps. if the nets had a good team i'd be more concerned.

[bokiloki]

boki, to be honest, the thing that you and other Denver fans don't understand is that the only way Melo plays here is if he makes it clear that he wants NY and nowhere else.

If that in fact is the case, then we have you guys by the balls. Plain and simple. If he doesn't say that, we don't get him, and the whole conversation is moot.

Therefore, if you come here with a proposal, you have to keep in mind that the only way the Knicks and Nuggs are at the table, is if you guys are screwed.

alright i see where your coming from but the nuggets would never be desperate enough to trade melo for just chandler and curry. you see knicks fan only think the nets and them are the only teams in the running to get melo. but theres so many things that none of us know. he could end up going anywhere at this point. and think about it. would it be hard for a team to put a better offer than chandler and curry. no basically any team in the nba could put up a better offer than that. so at this point it is who ever wants melo the most. if anyone has leverage its the nuggets.

The Nuggets only have leverage if Melo wants more than one team. If there is a competitive market for Melo, the Nuggs will get good value.

If Melo only wants one team, then the Nuggets have almost no leverage. Now us Knick fans believe Melo only wants NY. We have our reasons for believing so, just as I'm sure you have your reasons for believing otherwise. The main reason we believe though, is because that is the only way we get him.

Now, you are 100% correct. Plenty of teams can offer a better package than something like Gallo/Curry/AR or a 1st rd pick. That is not the point though. The point is that nobody will offer you anything unless Melo is willing to extend.Only the teams that Melo will extend with has the most leverage. The less teams there are, the worse it gets for the Nuggets.

Just wondering: Why do you guys feel that Melo will go anywhere at this point? Do you think he is forcing his way out of Denver, which is a good team and a good city, just so he can go play in a potentially smaller market, and a worse team, especially after they trade all their assets for him?

don't get me wrong, if theres anything i want for my team its for carmelo to resign. right now our team has struggled as of late, due to injuries, but if carmelo had that same mentality he did in 2009 our team would be up there with the best.

[NikeFoamposites]

[KnicksGadfly]

Well, Denver fans think Melo cares about the money more, and they're willing to call that bluff. So we'll see. Still, I don't know how they think the money would make up for having to go to New Jersey and play with Book Lopz. They also think Derrick Favors >>>>>>> anything the Knicks could offer, and they want picks, which NJ does possess in abundance. Oh, and if Melo does go to New York, we can expect accusations of tampering.

[NikeFoamposites]

boki, to be honest, the thing that you and other Denver fans don't understand is that the only way Melo plays here is if he makes it clear that he wants NY and nowhere else.

If that in fact is the case, then we have you guys by the balls. Plain and simple. If he doesn't say that, we don't get him, and the whole conversation is moot.

Therefore, if you come here with a proposal, you have to keep in mind that the only way the Knicks and Nuggs are at the table, is if you guys are screwed.

alright i see where your coming from but the nuggets would never be desperate enough to trade melo for just chandler and curry. you see knicks fan only think the nets and them are the only teams in the running to get melo. but theres so many things that none of us know. he could end up going anywhere at this point. and think about it. would it be hard for a team to put a better offer than chandler and curry. no basically any team in the nba could put up a better offer than that. so at this point it is who ever wants melo the most. if anyone has leverage its the nuggets.

[GONYK]

Well, Denver fans think Melo cares about the money more, and they're willing to call that bluff. So we'll see. Still, I don't know how they think the money would make up for having to go to New Jersey and play with Book Lopz. They also think Derrick Favors >>>>>>> anything the Knicks could offer, and they want picks, which NJ does possess in abundance. Oh, and if Melo does go to New York, we can expect accusations of tampering.

Well, the rubber will hit the road soon enough on that. I don't think the Nuggs will even let Melo get past the deadline, so the money won't be an issue. Correct me if I'm wrong, but word is that you guys really want to avoid getting Bosh'd. If that is in fact the case, you guys lose leverage with each passing day.

As far as tampering issues when NY gets Melo, good luck. I can tell you straight up that Melo is probably talking to Amare, and Amare in turn is talking to Walsh, but good luck proving that beyond a speculative degree. On top of that David Stern already said there is no tampering between two players discussing their future together.

[NYman15]

Exactly players do that I don't believe nuggets will let themselves get bosh'd and that's what hahns article was all about and how the feeling is the nuggets will be pressured into dealing melo at deadline to knicks for whatever

[Knicker23]

lol 5 first round picks!? ... Denver is out of their minds if they think they can get that having seen what there backs are up against with the way Clev. and Toronto ended up.... I know there's a certain amount of negotiation tactics, but they ain't fooling anyone with that...

Melo is said to have no desire to be a FA. Denver has no desire to let him possibly go for nothing. A deal will be made in the next month.

This really couldn't have panned out better for us thus far.. we are a winning team that isn't desperate.. the Nets have been trying without rest yet can't seem to get a deal done.. and the whole situation just seems to be slowly but surely creeping up to the deadline where Denver is going to have to make something happen, and hopefully with the Knicks.

[Knicks_Fan2]

lol 5 first round picks!? ... Denver is out of their minds if they think they can get that having seen what there backs are up against with the way Clev. and Toronto ended up.... I know there's a certain amount of negotiation tactics, but they ain't fooling anyone with that...

Melo is said to have no desire to be a FA. Denver has no desire to let him possibly go for nothing. A deal will be made in the next month.

This really couldn't have panned out better for us thus far.. we are a winning team that isn't desperate.. the Nets have been trying without rest yet can't seem to get a deal done.. and the whole situation just seems to be slowly but surely creeping up to the deadline where Denver is going to have to make something happen, and hopefully with the Knicks.

Don't forget that the nets' start to the season has been horrendous making jersey a terrible destination for melo.

[Awoooga]

Well, Denver fans think Melo cares about the money more, and they're willing to call that bluff. So we'll see. Still, I don't know how they think the money would make up for having to go to New Jersey and play with Book Lopz. They also think Derrick Favors >>>>>>> anything the Knicks could offer, and they want picks, which NJ does possess in abundance. Oh, and if Melo does go to New York, we can expect accusations of tampering.

The Denver board posters are just posturing. The posters are fans just like us. They were hope for the best scenario until reality smacks them in the face. Go back and read the Toronto board and the Cleveland board and see how their reactions changed when their star players were out the door. They were begging for a sign and trade to get anything back!! The only person who controls this situation is Melo. Denver is trying to strong arm him into a situation that he does not want. If Melo wants to be here he will get his wish one way or another.

[Th3Gr3at3st]

Has 5 picks ever been exchanged for a player ever? Denver also said in part of a bigger package. I find it hilarious.

[ITGM]

Bottom line is Denver will get "Lebron'd" this summer and they have no one to blame but themselves.

[Die93]

If it was all about the enxtension and melo doesnt want to risk his money why hasnt he signed?

[NYman15]

My question is if caron butlers injury is serious and out for the year will we see Dallas now going after melo even without an extension?

[knicks742]

My question is if caron butlers injury is serious and out for the year will we see Dallas now going after melo even without an extension?

They could but what can they offer that is better than what we can offer?

[towelie]

My question is if caron butlers injury is serious and out for the year will we see Dallas now going after melo even without an extension?

They could but what can they offer that is better than what we can offer?

Booboy and a late 1st.

I don't see Denver sending Melo to a conference rival though unless they're blown away by the package...which Dallas' isn't.

[kane2021]

My question is if caron butlers injury is serious and out for the year will we see Dallas now going after melo even without an extension?

They could but what can they offer that is better than what we can offer?

Right. I think butler WAS the best they could offer. Not that I believe they were in it, even before or after cuban shot it down.

[klemen4]

It is even better for Denver if Butler is injured...they save some money