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Re: Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason! 

Post#521 » by SARGO127 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:33 pm

Trade Randle for anything (hopefully an expiring, maybe a 2nd)
Trade DSJ + Mavs 2021 for Lauri Markkanen
Trade Clipprs pick + cash + 2nd to move up a few spots

1a - LaMelo Ball
1b - Aaron Nesmith
2b - Immanual Quickley

Young core looks like this...(bring back Bullock, Taj, and Payton)

G LaMelo Ball - Frank
G Aaron Nesmith - Quickley
F Barrett - Iggy
F Lauri Markkanen - Kevin Knox
C Mitch Robinson - Kenny Wooten

Lauri, Quickley, Nesmith are huge additions which improve our shooting. I also like LaMelo is a better shooting that his awful %s suggest.
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason! 

Post#522 » by robillionaire » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:48 pm

SARGO127 wrote:Trade Randle for anything (hopefully an expiring, maybe a 2nd)
Trade DSJ + Mavs 2021 for Lauri Markkanen
Trade Clipprs pick + cash + 2nd to move up a few spots

1a - LaMelo Ball
1b - Aaron Nesmith
2b - Immanual Quickley

Young core looks like this...(bring back Bullock, Taj, and Payton)

G LaMelo Ball - Frank
G Aaron Nesmith - Quickley
F Barrett - Iggy
F Lauri Markkanen - Kevin Knox
C Mitch Robinson - Kenny Wooten

Lauri, Quickley, Nesmith are huge additions which improve our shooting. I also like LaMelo is a better shooting that his awful %s suggest.


This is pretty much the same model I have in mind except idk if nesmith or quickley would be ready to be nba starters right out of the gate and would rather start Bullock until one of them breaks out or better yet sign a shooter in FA. Not sure if Brazdeikis or Wooten are actually NBA rotation players either, but hopefully they get their opportunities

Also, in your scenario you traded the clippers pick and the 2nd to move up a few spots so idk how you'd be getting these guys

I like the idea of Lamelo ? RJ ? Mitch and filling out the question marks with a stretch 4 like Lauri and the SG with some other elite shooter or 3 and D guy
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Re: Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason! 

Post#523 » by yo_penny1 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:26 am

newyorker4ever wrote:I think this is the time we should be hitting up the Bulls for Markkanen and any other Bulls we like with them doing so much change to their front office cause you know how GM's and Presidents like to have their own players that they brought in and Markkanen is supposedly not happy. Would also ask about Z.Lavine, O.Porter and T.Satoransky but Markkanen is my top target.


Otto porter is a very average NBA player, with a gigantic contract... please god no! when will we learn :banghead:

He has a 28million player option 20/21
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Post#524 » by 8516knicks » Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:07 pm

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newyorker4ever wrote:I think this is the time we should be hitting up the Bulls for Markkanen and any other Bulls we like with them doing so much change to their front office cause you know how GM's and Presidents like to have their own players that they brought in and Markkanen is supposedly not happy. Would also ask about Z.Lavine, O.Porter and T.Satoransky but Markkanen is my top target.


Otto porter is a very average NBA player, with a gigantic contract... please god no! when will we learn :banghead:

He has a 28million player option 20/21


You may be right, but at this point ""very average NBA player" = Knick superstar :lol: :o
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Post#525 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:06 pm

But 28 mil is not okay
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Post#527 » by dakomish23 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:33 pm

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Post#528 » by WargamesX » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:25 am

We really should consider combining the 2023 Mavs pick with the Clippers pick to move up. A few teams really may just want to move down to pay less rookie salary and shed contracts. With our cap space we could accommodate and still be a player in FA in this years.

A great example would be the wolves at #16. They want to keep Malik Beasley but also avoid having salary that may risk them going into the luxury cap.

J Johnson + #16 for pick #27 and 2023 Mavs pick (top #10 protected). The trajectory the Mavs are on Makes getting that pick difficult. If they are healthy by then they should be at least a mid seed playoff team. If they fall apart say due to health, all they have to do is tank within the 1-10 range and keep their pick. #16 is basically the ideal range for that pick in 2023 and there could still be decent talent in that range this draft due to the chaos of it all. Talent is likely going to fall for no reason that scouting departments being too reliant on tournaments for picks. Plus J Johnson is an expiring in 2021.

For the wolves it means they can easily keep Malik Beasley, draft there own high pick (BPA), and there are some interesting PF mocked at the late 20’s.

It’s a win/win.
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Post#529 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:48 am

WargamesX wrote:We really should consider combining the 2023 Mavs pick with the Clippers pick to move up. A few teams really may just want to move down to pay less rookie salary and shed contracts. With our cap space we could accommodate and still be a player in FA in this years.

A great example would be the wolves at #16. They want to keep Malik Beasley but also avoid having salary that may risk them going into the luxury cap.

J Johnson + #16 for pick #27 and 2023 Mavs pick (top #10 protected). The trajectory the Mavs are on Makes getting that pick difficult. If they are healthy by then they should be at least a mid seed playoff team. If they fall apart say due to health, all they have to do is tank within the 1-10 range and keep their pick. #16 is basically the ideal range for that pick in 2023 and there could still be decent talent in that range this draft due to the chaos of it all. Talent is likely going to fall for no reason that scouting departments being too reliant on tournaments for picks. Plus J Johnson is an expiring in 2021.

For the wolves it means they can easily keep Malik Beasley, draft there own high pick (BPA), and there are some interesting PF mocked at the late 20’s.

It’s a win/win.


I think the 2023 pick might be the draft where the high schoolers are allowed to jump straight into the league again. I might keep it, and just take whoever falls.
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Post#530 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:06 am

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WargamesX wrote:We really should consider combining the 2023 Mavs pick with the Clippers pick to move up. A few teams really may just want to move down to pay less rookie salary and shed contracts. With our cap space we could accommodate and still be a player in FA in this years.

A great example would be the wolves at #16. They want to keep Malik Beasley but also avoid having salary that may risk them going into the luxury cap.

J Johnson + #16 for pick #27 and 2023 Mavs pick (top #10 protected). The trajectory the Mavs are on Makes getting that pick difficult. If they are healthy by then they should be at least a mid seed playoff team. If they fall apart say due to health, all they have to do is tank within the 1-10 range and keep their pick. #16 is basically the ideal range for that pick in 2023 and there could still be decent talent in that range this draft due to the chaos of it all. Talent is likely going to fall for no reason that scouting departments being too reliant on tournaments for picks. Plus J Johnson is an expiring in 2021.

For the wolves it means they can easily keep Malik Beasley, draft there own high pick (BPA), and there are some interesting PF mocked at the late 20’s.

It’s a win/win.


I think the 2023 pick might be the draft where the high schoolers are allowed to jump straight into the league again. I might keep it, and just take whoever falls.

Yes. It's also idiot insurance against picking Ball. Chances are Anthony falls to us, which would be perfect.
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Post#531 » by blanko » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:11 pm

Honestly, I hope we can get the number one pick so we can trade it for Donovan Mitchell

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Post#532 » by robillionaire » Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:17 pm

blanko wrote:Honestly, I hope we can get the number one pick so we can trade it for Donovan Mitchell

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Re: Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason! 

Post#533 » by WargamesX » Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:39 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
knicksh20b wrote:
WargamesX wrote:We really should consider combining the 2023 Mavs pick with the Clippers pick to move up. A few teams really may just want to move down to pay less rookie salary and shed contracts. With our cap space we could accommodate and still be a player in FA in this years.

A great example would be the wolves at #16. They want to keep Malik Beasley but also avoid having salary that may risk them going into the luxury cap.

J Johnson + #16 for pick #27 and 2023 Mavs pick (top #10 protected). The trajectory the Mavs are on Makes getting that pick difficult. If they are healthy by then they should be at least a mid seed playoff team. If they fall apart say due to health, all they have to do is tank within the 1-10 range and keep their pick. #16 is basically the ideal range for that pick in 2023 and there could still be decent talent in that range this draft due to the chaos of it all. Talent is likely going to fall for no reason that scouting departments being too reliant on tournaments for picks. Plus J Johnson is an expiring in 2021.

For the wolves it means they can easily keep Malik Beasley, draft there own high pick (BPA), and there are some interesting PF mocked at the late 20’s.

It’s a win/win.


I think the 2023 pick might be the draft where the high schoolers are allowed to jump straight into the league again. I might keep it, and just take whoever falls.

Yes. It's also idiot insurance against picking Ball. Chances are Anthony falls to us, which would be perfect.


I am pretty sure 2022 is the high school draft.
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Post#534 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:14 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
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Didn’t SAC pass on picking up his option?


Yes but I believe it came down to cap issues. Giles could be a smart pickup.
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Post#535 » by bleedblue3303 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:05 am

dakomish23 wrote:
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Didn’t SAC pass on picking up his option?


we should be all over this. low risk high reward and ties to Perry
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Post#536 » by dakomish23 » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:50 am

WargamesX wrote:We really should consider combining the 2023 Mavs pick with the Clippers pick to move up. A few teams really may just want to move down to pay less rookie salary and shed contracts. With our cap space we could accommodate and still be a player in FA in this years.

A great example would be the wolves at #16. They want to keep Malik Beasley but also avoid having salary that may risk them going into the luxury cap.

J Johnson + #16 for pick #27 and 2023 Mavs pick (top #10 protected). The trajectory the Mavs are on Makes getting that pick difficult. If they are healthy by then they should be at least a mid seed playoff team. If they fall apart say due to health, all they have to do is tank within the 1-10 range and keep their pick. #16 is basically the ideal range for that pick in 2023 and there could still be decent talent in that range this draft due to the chaos of it all. Talent is likely going to fall for no reason that scouting departments being too reliant on tournaments for picks. Plus J Johnson is an expiring in 2021.

For the wolves it means they can easily keep Malik Beasley, draft there own high pick (BPA), and there are some interesting PF mocked at the late 20’s.

It’s a win/win.


Wouldn’t be the first time this has happened. It’s how UTA got Mitchell.
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Post#538 » by NYG » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:48 am

https://sircharlesincharge.com/2020/04/26/nba-mock-offseason-clippers-win-beal-traded/10/

Head coach: Tom Thibodeau (hired in offseason)

2019-20 NBA season results:
Missed playoffs

Who they re-signed:
Maurice Harkless re-signed to a three-year, $47.2 million contract

Who they signed in FA:
Quinn Cook signed to a one-year league minimum contract
Dario Saric signed to a three-year, $34.3 million contract
Enes Kanter signed to a one-year, cap mid-level exception contract

Trades they made:
8th overall draft pick to the Boston Celtics for 11th overall draft pick and 25th overall draft pick
Chris Paul for Reggie Bullock, Dennis Smith Jr., and Julius Randle

Who they drafted:
Drafted Jordan Nwora, Robert Woodard II, Cassius Stanley, Killian Hayes

Other moves:
N/A

Summary: The New York Knicks opt not to star chase in free agency and work on maximizing their youth. By removing a guy like Julius Randle who stops the offense a bit and replacing him with a veteran like Chris Paul the Knicks should be able to run smoother on that side of the ball. Chris Paul is just what the Knicks need and he proved what he could do with the Thunder on the court by putting them in the playoffs in a tough conference while bonding with Shai Gilgeous-Alexander off the court as a bit of a mentor.

Paul should find guys like Knox and Robinson in better spots while providing a mentor for Frank Ntilikina and draft pick Killian Hayes. Tom Thibodeau adds a bit of credibility to the team as well and the ball movement should be natural with Dario Saric being added.

Enes Kanter loved his stay in New York and without much cap space going around this offseason, the Knicks get to steal him for the Cap MLE. The Knicks could be a sneaky good team with this set up with a worst-case of having a more natural fitting team to rebuild with.
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Post#539 » by iLLmatic860 » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:55 am

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Post#540 » by YungKnicks » Sun Apr 26, 2020 1:40 pm

Move this to Trades and Transactions ...

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