Breaking: Obi toppin traded to indiana

[Zenzibar]

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jeez they couldn't even negotiate a decent 2nd round pick?

If this wasnt a favor to Obi to get him acclimated on his new team early, then why trade him now for this piss poor return? 2 late 2nd rounders 5-6 years from now, lol. We had another year of him under contract, hes a capable backup/spot-starter, and anything could happen injuries or trade wise.

This was 100% a favor. Obi may have asked for the trade himself, and it wouldn’t surprise me if he leaked that tape yelling at Thibs. Dude was done being a ballboy, and nobody should blame him.

We’ll have to see if we have any other move coming for OG, PG, or whoever though, because those guys can play backup PF too. Team is hopefully not done, or else this makes little damn sense.

It makes perfect sense and you got it right IMO. As a favor to a good young player and CAA client Obi was done right by the Knicks. Players around the league see these things and now know that the team looks out.

While deceptive and no fault of his own, Obi had no true value based on real numbers alone.
One can blame Thibs all day but how do you sit a 2x all- star, 2x all-NBA player? Or move Randle for less than a king's ransom just to start Obi. Then we saw how RJ and Obi were't exactly the 2nd coming of Stockton and Malone when playing together.

I'm rooting for Obi in the true sense of "once a Knick, always a Knick" and glad we worked to get him in a great situation.

But it'll be fun as fk if we land OG and see what'll happen when matched up against Obi. Obi vs OG....O sht.

[Iron Mantis]

Aside from the radical fringe on Realgm Knicks forum, the fans LOVED Obi.....but as we've seen many times, the fans have a shaky relationship with Randle that switches to hostility pretty quickly.

We'll see how this plays out.

Randle needs to perform in the playoffs like he's Giannis or the fans will run him out of town. This is Randle's year....no more excuses.

[Adelheid]

obi just had that misfortune that randle suddenly got into allstar form otherwise he would have enjoyed more pt

[TrueWarrior]

Aside the radical fringe on Realgm Knicks forum, the fans LOVED Obi.....but as we've seen many times, the fans have a shaky relationship with Randle that switches to hostility pretty quickly.

We'll see how this plays out.

Randle needs to perform in the playoffs like he's Giannis or the fans will run him out of town. This is Randle's year....no more excuses.

This is why the Randle fans celebrating Obi being shipped out are being short sighted.

They can have their little parade if they like, but the pressure is even higher for Randle now. His ankle somewhat saved him from being labeled a complete playoff choker again, but next time he better bring it. He’s 28 years old and an All NBA player. No more BS.

Obi will be playing more in Indy and they have a solid team over there. No guarantee at all we finish better than them. The Obi vs Julius debates will have more ammo now for sure, so things will be spicy in here.

I dont think Obi will become some star, but he will prove hes a good player. Think Gallinari, Trevor Ariza, Rod Strickland, Frye, Doug Christie, Mozgov, or Matt Barnes after we moved them.

[aq_ua]

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jeez they couldn't even negotiate a decent 2nd round pick?

If this wasnt a favor to Obi to get him acclimated on his new team early, then why trade him now for this piss poor return? 2 late 2nd rounders 5-6 years from now, lol. We had another year of him under contract, hes a capable backup/spot-starter, and anything could happen injuries or trade wise.

This was 100% a favor. Obi may have asked for the trade himself, and it wouldn’t surprise me if he leaked that tape yelling at Thibs. Dude was done being a ballboy, and nobody should blame him.

We’ll have to see if we have any other move coming for OG, PG, or whoever though, because those guys can play backup PF too. Team is hopefully not done, or else this makes little damn sense.

It makes perfect sense and you got it right IMO. As a favor to a good young player and CAA client Obi was done right by the Knicks. Players around the league see these things and now know that the team looks out.

While deceptive and no fault of his own, Obi had no true value based on real numbers alone.
One can blame Thibs all day but how do you sit a 2x all- star, 2x all-NBA player? Or move Randle for less than a king's ransom just to start Obi. Then we saw how RJ and Obi were't exactly the 2nd coming of Stockton and Malone when playing together.

I'm rooting for Obi in the true sense of "once a Knick, always a Knick" and glad we worked to get him in a great situation.

But it'll be fun as fk if we land OG and see what'll happen when matched up against Obi. Obi vs OG....O sht.

Also can’t forget that we did not want a player/contract back in the trade, which meant Obi had to be traded to a team with cap space. That meant one of two, maybe three teams, and out of those, realistically only Indiana could offer Obi playing time and therefore had incentive to offer any kind of value.

[cgmw]

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jeez they couldn't even negotiate a decent 2nd round pick?

If this wasnt a favor to Obi to get him acclimated on his new team early, then why trade him now for this piss poor return? 2 late 2nd rounders 5-6 years from now, lol. We had another year of him under contract, hes a capable backup/spot-starter, and anything could happen injuries or trade wise.

This was 100% a favor. Obi may have asked for the trade himself, and it wouldn’t surprise me if he leaked that tape yelling at Thibs. Dude was done being a ballboy, and nobody should blame him.

We’ll have to see if we have any other move coming for OG, PG, or whoever though, because those guys can play backup PF too. Team is hopefully not done, or else this makes little damn sense.

It makes perfect sense and you got it right IMO. As a favor to a good young player and CAA client Obi was done right by the Knicks. Players around the league see these things and now know that the team looks out.

While deceptive and no fault of his own, Obi had no true value based on real numbers alone.
One can blame Thibs all day but how do you sit a 2x all- star, 2x all-NBA player? Or move Randle for less than a king's ransom just to start Obi. Then we saw how RJ and Obi were't exactly the 2nd coming of Stockton and Malone when playing together.

I'm rooting for Obi in the true sense of "once a Knick, always a Knick" and glad we worked to get him in a great situation.

But it'll be fun as fk if we land OG and see what'll happen when matched up against Obi. Obi vs OG....O sht.

Favor to Obi?

Try a favor to Sammy Rose.

Not a crazy conspiracy theory. Leon’s son is Obi’s agent. I’m assuming Jacob’s too. The simplest answer is the correct one— Leon is trying to get his son paid.

[Iron Mantis]

Aside the radical fringe on Realgm Knicks forum, the fans LOVED Obi.....but as we've seen many times, the fans have a shaky relationship with Randle that switches to hostility pretty quickly.

We'll see how this plays out.

Randle needs to perform in the playoffs like he's Giannis or the fans will run him out of town. This is Randle's year....no more excuses.

This is why the Randle fans celebrating Obi being shipped out are being short sighted.

They can have their little parade if they like, but the pressure is even higher for Randle now. His ankle somewhat saved him from being labeled a complete playoff choker again, but next time he better bring it. He’s 28 years old and an All NBA player. No more BS.

Obi will be playing more in Indy and they have a solid team over there. No guarantee at all we finish better than them. The Obi vs Julius debates will have more ammo now for sure, so things will be spicy in here's.

I dont think Obi will become some star, but he will prove hes a good player. Think Gallinari, Trevor Ariza, Rod Strickland, Frye, Doug Christie, Mozgov, or Matt Barnes after we moved them.

Randle's slow, ball-dominant, iso chucking ball style is conducive to putting up regular season numbers, but it doesn't translate in the playoffs where only superstars can iso their way through playoff level defensive scheming without becoming a bricklaying turnover machine.

Randle thinks he's a superstar, but he's not..."2x All NBA, 2x All-Star!!!" labels have done more harm than good by souping up Randle's ego.

Obi's style translates in the playoffs, because it's based on effort, ball/player movement, good passing, and opportunity to find high percentage shots.

Obi doesn't need to carry an offense...he just needs to be a solid release valve for his superstar and shoot within the flow of the offense. He can easily average 17ppg on high efficiency.

If he's able to get 30 minutes per game in Indiana you will see.

[thebuzzardman]

Frees up time for the under the radar future star on the Knicks roster. Need to move RJ too.

[thebuzzardman]

Aside the radical fringe on Realgm Knicks forum, the fans LOVED Obi.....but as we've seen many times, the fans have a shaky relationship with Randle that switches to hostility pretty quickly.

We'll see how this plays out.

Randle needs to perform in the playoffs like he's Giannis or the fans will run him out of town. This is Randle's year....no more excuses.

This is why the Randle fans celebrating Obi being shipped out are being short sighted.

They can have their little parade if they like, but the pressure is even higher for Randle now. His ankle somewhat saved him from being labeled a complete playoff choker again, but next time he better bring it. He’s 28 years old and an All NBA player. No more BS.

Obi will be playing more in Indy and they have a solid team over there. No guarantee at all we finish better than them. The Obi vs Julius debates will have more ammo now for sure, so things will be spicy in here's.

I dont think Obi will become some star, but he will prove hes a good player. Think Gallinari, Trevor Ariza, Rod Strickland, Frye, Doug Christie, Mozgov, or Matt Barnes after we moved them.

Randle's slow, ball-dominant, iso chucking ball style is conducive to putting up regular season numbers, but it doesn't translate in the playoffs where only superstars can iso their way through playoff level defensive scheming without becoming a bricklaying turnover machine.

Randle thinks he's a superstar, but he's not..."2x All NBA, 2x All-Star!!!" labels have done more harm than good by souping up Randle's ego.

Obi's style translates in the playoffs, because it's based on effort, ball/player movement, good passing, and opportunity to find high percentage shots.

Obi doesn't need to carry an offense...he just needs to be a solid release valve for his superstar and shoot within the flow of the offense. He can easily average 17ppg on high efficiency.

If he's able to get 30 minutes per game in Indiana you will see.

But we'll need Indiana to make the playoffs to see. Otherwise it's just Obi putting up empty regular season stats too.

Also, doesn't the game slow down, defense goes up in the playoffs and players who can create on their own are more important? I thought that was the conventional wisdom.

Like, maybe both Randle and Obi aren't all that suited for contributing as starters in the playoffs.

There is a player on the roster who won't have these issues.

[Iron Mantis]

This is why the Randle fans celebrating Obi being shipped out are being short sighted.

They can have their little parade if they like, but the pressure is even higher for Randle now. His ankle somewhat saved him from being labeled a complete playoff choker again, but next time he better bring it. He’s 28 years old and an All NBA player. No more BS.

Obi will be playing more in Indy and they have a solid team over there. No guarantee at all we finish better than them. The Obi vs Julius debates will have more ammo now for sure, so things will be spicy in here's.

I dont think Obi will become some star, but he will prove hes a good player. Think Gallinari, Trevor Ariza, Rod Strickland, Frye, Doug Christie, Mozgov, or Matt Barnes after we moved them.

Randle's slow, ball-dominant, iso chucking ball style is conducive to putting up regular season numbers, but it doesn't translate in the playoffs where only superstars can iso their way through playoff level defensive scheming without becoming a bricklaying turnover machine.

Randle thinks he's a superstar, but he's not..."2x All NBA, 2x All-Star!!!" labels have done more harm than good by souping up Randle's ego.

Obi's style translates in the playoffs, because it's based on effort, ball/player movement, good passing, and opportunity to find high percentage shots.

Obi doesn't need to carry an offense...he just needs to be a solid release valve for his superstar and shoot within the flow of the offense. He can easily average 17ppg on high efficiency.

If he's able to get 30 minutes per game in Indiana you will see.

But we'll need Indiana to make the playoffs to see. Otherwise it's just Obi putting up empty regular season stats too.

Also, doesn't the game slow down, defense goes up in the playoffs and players who can create on their own are more important? I thought that was the conventional wisdom.

Like, maybe both Randle and Obi aren't all that suited for contributing as starters in the playoffs.

There is a player on the roster who won't have these issues.

We've seen Obi in the playoffs here already. Namely, with 30+ minutes; his style translates.

Yes you need players who can create...but you need high IQ players even more so they know when to create a shot and when to create an assist/pass....not force it. Randle can create but at 28yo he still has no clue when not to force it.

Yes the game slows down but basketball is still a team game. So you also need half court ball/player movement which = assists for high-percentage shots at the rim, in the paint, mid.

Look at how the Nugs/Heat assisted and how their offenses flowed. High assist numbers. Not every assist was a pound the ball for 10 seconds then "spray out" for a 3pt attempt. That's the Knicks offense. No rhythm.

[robillionaire]

But we'll need Indiana to make the playoffs to see. Otherwise it's just Obi putting up empty regular season stats too.

Also, doesn't the game slow down, defense goes up in the playoffs and players who can create on their own are more important? I thought that was the conventional wisdom.

Like, maybe both Randle and Obi aren't all that suited for contributing as starters in the playoffs.

There is a player on the roster who won't have these issues.

Very telling that he was already on a contending playoff team who traded him away for a hill of beans as soon as it got the chance and it was a tanking lottery team that traded for him hoping to rehab some value like the old Knicks used to do with the likes of a Mario Hezonja caliber player and not a team wanting playoff help. I guess the other 15 playoff teams didn’t see any value there.

[thebuzzardman]

Randle's slow, ball-dominant, iso chucking ball style is conducive to putting up regular season numbers, but it doesn't translate in the playoffs where only superstars can iso their way through playoff level defensive scheming without becoming a bricklaying turnover machine.

Randle thinks he's a superstar, but he's not..."2x All NBA, 2x All-Star!!!" labels have done more harm than good by souping up Randle's ego.

Obi's style translates in the playoffs, because it's based on effort, ball/player movement, good passing, and opportunity to find high percentage shots.

Obi doesn't need to carry an offense...he just needs to be a solid release valve for his superstar and shoot within the flow of the offense. He can easily average 17ppg on high efficiency.

If he's able to get 30 minutes per game in Indiana you will see.

But we'll need Indiana to make the playoffs to see. Otherwise it's just Obi putting up empty regular season stats too.

Also, doesn't the game slow down, defense goes up in the playoffs and players who can create on their own are more important? I thought that was the conventional wisdom.

Like, maybe both Randle and Obi aren't all that suited for contributing as starters in the playoffs.

There is a player on the roster who won't have these issues.

We've seen Obi in the playoffs here already. Namely, with 30+ minutes; his style translates.

Yes you need players who can create...but you need high IQ players even more so they know when to create a shot and when to create an assist/pass....not force it. Randle can create but at 28yo he still has no clue when not to force it.

Yes the game slows down but basketball is still a team game. So you also need half court ball/player movement which = assists for high-percentage shots at the rim, in the paint, mid.

Look at how the Nugs/Heat assisted and how their offenses flowed. High assist numbers. Not every assist was a pound the ball for 10 seconds then "spray out" for a 3pt attempt. That's the Knicks offense. No rhythm.

Trevor Keels point forward skills will unlock the Knicks offense

[Zenzibar]

If this wasnt a favor to Obi to get him acclimated on his new team early, then why trade him now for this piss poor return? 2 late 2nd rounders 5-6 years from now, lol. We had another year of him under contract, hes a capable backup/spot-starter, and anything could happen injuries or trade wise.

This was 100% a favor. Obi may have asked for the trade himself, and it wouldn’t surprise me if he leaked that tape yelling at Thibs. Dude was done being a ballboy, and nobody should blame him.

We’ll have to see if we have any other move coming for OG, PG, or whoever though, because those guys can play backup PF too. Team is hopefully not done, or else this makes little damn sense.

It makes perfect sense and you got it right IMO. As a favor to a good young player and CAA client Obi was done right by the Knicks. Players around the league see these things and now know that the team looks out.

While deceptive and no fault of his own, Obi had no true value based on real numbers alone.
One can blame Thibs all day but how do you sit a 2x all- star, 2x all-NBA player? Or move Randle for less than a king's ransom just to start Obi. Then we saw how RJ and Obi were't exactly the 2nd coming of Stockton and Malone when playing together.

I'm rooting for Obi in the true sense of "once a Knick, always a Knick" and glad we worked to get him in a great situation.

But it'll be fun as fk if we land OG and see what'll happen when matched up against Obi. Obi vs OG....O sht.

Favor to Obi?

Try a favor to Sammy Rose.

Not a crazy conspiracy theory. Leon’s son is Obi’s agent. I’m assuming Jacob’s too. The simplest answer is the correct one— Leon is trying to get his son paid.

Sure, wouldn't you want your son to get paid?
Either way it wasn't the Knicks trying to hold Obi hostage until a better offer came through.
A young player who deserves to play more. Check
A fan favorite. Check
Due an extension soon and more playing time, means more $.
A CAA client with son as a rep. Check.
No salary back and low cost 2nd round picks. Check.
Randle's has the PF position on lock. Check.

Does that cover it?

[Madskillzz024]

It makes perfect sense and you got it right IMO. As a favor to a good young player and CAA client Obi was done right by the Knicks. Players around the league see these things and now know that the team looks out.

While deceptive and no fault of his own, Obi had no true value based on real numbers alone.
One can blame Thibs all day but how do you sit a 2x all- star, 2x all-NBA player? Or move Randle for less than a king's ransom just to start Obi. Then we saw how RJ and Obi were't exactly the 2nd coming of Stockton and Malone when playing together.

I'm rooting for Obi in the true sense of "once a Knick, always a Knick" and glad we worked to get him in a great situation.

But it'll be fun as fk if we land OG and see what'll happen when matched up against Obi. Obi vs OG....O sht.

Favor to Obi?

Try a favor to Sammy Rose.

Not a crazy conspiracy theory. Leon’s son is Obi’s agent. I’m assuming Jacob’s too. The simplest answer is the correct one— Leon is trying to get his son paid.

Sure, wouldn't you want your son to get paid?
Either way it wasn't the Knicks trying to hold Obi hostage until a better offer came through.
A young player who deserves to play more. Check
A fan favorite. Check
Due an extension soon and more playing time, means more $.
A CAA client with son as a rep. Check.
No salary back and low cost 2nd round picks. Check.
Randle's has the PF position on lock. Check.

Does that cover it?

It does leave a weak spot at PF with Randle returning from ankle surgery.

[Zenzibar]

Favor to Obi?

Try a favor to Sammy Rose.

Not a crazy conspiracy theory. Leon’s son is Obi’s agent. I’m assuming Jacob’s too. The simplest answer is the correct one— Leon is trying to get his son paid.

Sure, wouldn't you want your son to get paid?
Either way it wasn't the Knicks trying to hold Obi hostage until a better offer came through.
A young player who deserves to play more. Check
A fan favorite. Check
Due an extension soon and more playing time, means more $.
A CAA client with son as a rep. Check.
No salary back and low cost 2nd round picks. Check.
Randle's has the PF position on lock. Check.

Does that cover it?

It does leave a weak spot at PF with Randle returning from ankle surgery.

Absolutely. But nothing would have changed and frustrations would have only risen.

[aq_ua]

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He seems...depressed...

[thebuzzardman]

Here we go. A redux of the time THJr got traded and every time Tim broke 10 points, there was endless discussion. Then 2 years later no one gave a single f*ck.

[Fat Kat]

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[bballoctober]

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So you think Obi might go to another back up role ?

[aq_ua]

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So you think Obi might go to another back up role ?

Or he forms part of the package to get Siakam?