O.T. .::THE SCIENCE AND PHILOSOPHY THREAD::.

[magnumt]

China is projected to be the World leader in Wind Energy use by 2020, and it looks like Google is looking to change that.

--Mags

Impressive.Thats stuff we are going to need to do because right now we are killing mother Earth.

Indeed. It's massive collaborative projects like these that we need to move forward.

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Re-posting this for the next page:

A couple of Days old, but great news nonetheless:

http://mashable.com/2010/10/12/google-wind-farm-offshore/

Google Invests in Mammoth Offshore Wind Farm
October 12, 2010 Jolie O'Dell

Google has just sealed a deal that will help bring clean, renewable energy to almost 2 million households.

The company is investing in the Atlantic Wind Connection (AWC), a plan to erect a 350-mile stretch of wind turbines 10 to 15 miles off the United States’ Atlantic coastline, where waters are relatively shallow. The AWC “backbone” will take advantage of strong, steady winds at sea and deliver energy via underwater cables.

If successful, the AWC will be the first operating offshore wind collection project in the U.S.

Calling the AWC “a superhighway for clean energy,” Google’s Green Business Operations Director Rick Needham wrote on the company blog, “As those in the Northeast remember from the 2003 blackout, transmission is severely overstretched on the East Coast. The AWC project relieves grid congestion in one of two National Interest Electric Transmission Corridors which were deemed to have significant network congestion and need speedy creation of transmission capacity.”

The AWC is estimated by outside sources to be a $5 billion project, and Google has invested 37.5% of the equity for the AWC’s initial development stage, “with the goal of obtaining all the necessary approvals to finance and begin constructing the line,” Needham wrote. New York-based cleantech investment firm Good Energies also invested 37.5% of the equity.

Google has invested heavily in wind energy in the recent past. Earlier this year, the company bought 20 years’ worth of wind energy a couple months later under the newly created auspices of Google Energy.

Google’s commitment to clean energy is impressive, and we also note that its investment strategies make good business sense, as well.

What do you think of this investment and the idea of offshore wind farms?

China is projected to be the World leader in Wind Energy use by 2020, and it looks like Google is looking to change that.

--Mags

[Clyde_Style]

Nineteen-Eighty-Four (1984) crushed us in order to make us think it's a Brave New World!

Lots of truth in that, but they go hand in hand. I always say its the Roman's bread & circuses all over again. The control mechanisms of the corporatized state gets stronger while the methods go deeper into the matrix of distractions like this place here on the web. You could be diverting yourself and enjoying your trifles like chatting about sports and meanwhile the data of every conversation is parsed for meaning of various kinds and someone in a control room could be intercepting it and reading it. So now the circus has come to town and there is a trojan horse inside it.

[TrueWarrior]

REVOLVERs post has been the best one in here for a while.

When you think about it we spend so much time on this message board for what? Talking about the Knicks 75% of the time, 15% of the time some random OTs, and the other 10% perhaps some solid conversation like this thread. Its fun in moderation but when I find myself on this site for too long I start to lose my mind, especially with all the pointless negativity (which will change in an instant if things go well in tonights game) at the moment. I mean we spend hours a day, some more than others, talking about a sports team and dissecting every little thing where none of the players give a sh*t about us! Think about it!

Not only that but I got a My Player going in NBA 2K11. I never did that mode before because I thought it was stupid. Well its actually pretty fun and addicting, like an RPG almost. The sad thing is millions of people, especially kids, are prob working to build their player up so much when they SHOULD be playing the real thing at the park or gym with their boys! They shouldnt be playing 5 on 5 online (which you can do in 2K11, where every person controls their own player only) in a videogame when they can do it in real life. Its just things like this that make me think where we are going as a society. So much time spent in a virtual world and not enough in the real world. We got facebook and dating sites now where countless people spend TOO MUCH time with because they lack actual social skills.

Dont get me started on TV. His post said it all! We are being withheld information unless you dig deep for it. Yet most people dont care and just want to watch the Jersey Shore. We're just turning into mindless zombies. For real.

It really makes you think what is going on here.

Distractions distractions distractions....

[TheBluest]

^Well there was the sentiment recently that the masses are too used to getting things "yesterday", with things that give you what used to take 1/2 Hour in 10 minutes.

Me, I think everything is good in moderation...it's the overuse that can take the mundane and make it dangerous.

IE: In your example, it's TV (IE: pleasures) that's used as the driving "distraction" medium here.

--Mags

Not everything but most things agreed. Take for instance 1 Tim chap 5 and chap 6 speaks about the proper use of WINE and caution for how one views MONEY

[Marty McFly]

i tried dude. i tried twice.

It is a gloomy, dark book that takes you places.

I found Huxley hard to read, but did enjoy BNW. Lately it's been en vogue to say BNW > 1984 but that's because the ways for Big Brother to track us has become common place, so part of our everyday lives that we don't even think about it: everything from cell phones, email addresses, gps in our cars, using mapquest (which basically tells some Minister of Information) where we are going, etc...

Nineteen-Eighty-Four (1984) crushed us in order to make us think it's a Brave New World!

I Didn't mean to argue that 1984 was less essential in comparison to a "Brave New World"
(as noted I have not read it.) in fact, one of the reasons why i decided to try and read 1984 was because How much of it's culture seemed to have spilled over unto to other avenues of our culture.

I think its pretty obvious to most of us who bother to give a **** About our planet, that both Huxley and Orwell were on to something.

[Clyde_Style]

i tried dude. i tried twice.

It is a gloomy, dark book that takes you places.

I found Huxley hard to read, but did enjoy BNW. Lately it's been en vogue to say BNW > 1984 but that's because the ways for Big Brother to track us has become common place, so part of our everyday lives that we don't even think about it: everything from cell phones, email addresses, gps in our cars, using mapquest (which basically tells some Minister of Information) where we are going, etc...

Nineteen-Eighty-Four (1984) crushed us in order to make us think it's a Brave New World!

I Didn't mean to argue that 1984 was less essential in comparison to a "Brave New World"
(as noted I have not read it.) in fact, one of the reasons why i decided to try and read 1984 was because How much of it's culture seemed to have spilled over unto to other avenues of our culture.

I think its pretty obvious to most of us who bother to give a **** About our planet, that both Huxley and Orwell were on to something.

I read a lot of Orwell growing up. Animal Farm is very short. Definitely read that. It was the kind of book you read along with William Golding's Lord of the Flies which is also great.

Another Orwell book that is entirely different and not so flattened out like 1984 or allegorical like Animal Farm is Down and Out in Paris and London which is much more rooted in real life details and made a real impression on me.

Another good Orwell book is Burmese Days. There are others if you get that far.

Huxley wrote lots of interesting stuff before Brave New World. He also experimented with mescaline and wrote the classic Doors of Perception.

[StutterStep]

Lots of truth in that, but they go hand in hand. I always say its the Roman's bread & circuses all over again. The control mechanisms of the corporatized state gets stronger while the methods go deeper into the matrix of distractions like this place here on the web. You could be diverting yourself and enjoying your trifles like chatting about sports and meanwhile the data of every conversation is parsed for meaning of various kinds and someone in a control room could be intercepting it and reading it. So now the circus has come to town and there is a trojan horse inside it.

OK, if I understand what you're saying, I would say that we need these distractions because the nature of humans is "war" -- conflict because we seek to become the "alpha" in a pack. We each have that capability, so the State has to control us as best as it can so that it can advance the species. Otherwise, each century or so (for simplicity's sake), we'd be rebuilding civilization.

This means the groups that are in power finds the best methods of maintaining that power in order to move civilization (the planet) forward. Now does that mean we have to agree with the plotted course? No, but it does mean that we have to acquire enough knowledge, wisdom, etc...to become the next group of alphas.

[StutterStep]

I Didn't mean to argue that 1984 was less essential in comparison to a "Brave New World"
(as noted I have not read it.) in fact, one of the reasons why i decided to try and read 1984 was because How much of it's culture seemed to have spilled over unto to other avenues of our culture.

I think its pretty obvious to most of us who bother to give a **** About our planet, that both Huxley and Orwell were on to something.

Oh, it's no problem. I was also defending 1984's literary merit.

When it comes to BNW, when I read it, though it gave insight into futuristic society, I felt it was still operating under the old paradigm of enlightened people vs savages. Whereas 1984 was talking about the fear of the totalitarian state in how the State is always at war, and the enemies become friends only to become enemies again; all the while the "common" wo/man is losing personal freedom.

[GotItNow]

What do you guys think of this? I've only gone through about half of 1984 ( It's kind of bland to me to be quiet honest) But I'm interested in Aldous Huxley's "BRAVE NEW WORLD". Is this accurate?

I read 1984, I didn't read Brave New World but hot damn that's accurate as hell. I'd say they're both right. They distract us enough so we don't notice the closing in of our corral. Plenty of it they don't have to do anything special just let tech overload run its course but when it comes to politics and the running of our country it is an endless barrage of obfuscation. There is so much heated rhetoric, baseless rumors and fear mongering going on that who the hell can tell what the truth is about who, what, where and why. Republicans and Democrats are just as guilty of it.

Take for example the immigration issue. We all know the rhetoric on both sides so I won't rehash it but it's designed to get us fighting back and forth while TPTB get what they want without people realizing what the real deal is. Whoever the hell is really in charge set this up beautifully. First you have a Republican President, Ronald Reagan, give amnesty. Then you do nothing to close the borders. What the hell do you think is going to happen lots of others will want in too. So they came for a couple of decades. This is intentional.

Both Repubs and Dems are fine with this. Cheap labor for R corporate interests, likely future voters for D...longer term very possibly R voters as they're heavily Catholic. As Reagan said, "They're Republicans, they just don't know it yet." Believe what you want as to the likelihood of that happening, I'm just telling you what the man said and his reasoning behind it. I'm sure there where other reasons, that's the one I remember.

George Bush has Hispanic family members, it wasn't an accident...that's why he was chosen, to push through another amnesty and connect with Latinos. It will likely take another Republican to get Americans to accept a mass one again. Perhaps this man.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts954

George Prescott Bush (his middle name honors his great-grandfather, former U.S. Sen. Prescott Bush) is the son of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and his wife, Columba Bush, who was born and raised in Mexico. Bush's half-Hispanic bloodline aided his burst onto the American political scene in 2000, when he helped his uncle George W. Bush rally up considerable Hispanic voter support by...

Other than being arrested at 18 for burglarizing the home of an ex-girlfriend, George P. Bush appears to have all the right credentials to carry the Bush legacy well into the future. While family members often refer to the former presidents Bush as "41" and "43," the Washington Post says that some close to the family have taken to referring to George P. Bush as "47," so it's probably safe to assume that those inside the family see him as a potential future Bush torchbearer just as many outside the family do.

Anyway the reasons are cheap labor, break the unions and bring in a supply of younger people to help with our burgeoning Social Security obligations. Amnesty isn't if, it's when, guaranteed.

It's a helluva plan huh? Meanwhile they get the average dude in the streets thinking the parties are arguing against what the other party wants when they are working towards the same damn thing just in a roundabout way.

It's a Globalists World, we're just living in it. Corporations and special interests run this country.

[ITGM]

This is my 1st time taking a train from city to city. Look at this footage. My teammates love it also

@Amareisreal

http://www.twitvid.com/BTRMB

[King of Troy]

Gotta love Bill Walker

[PrecociousNeoph]

haha. bill walker and shaun williams juiced because they are riding amtrak for the first time

[richardhutnik]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/201 ... hpostponed

It's a good news/bad news situation for believers in the 2012 Mayan apocalypse. The good news is that the Mayan "Long Count" calendar may not end on Dec. 21, 2012 (and, by extension, the world may not end along with it). The bad news for prophecy believers? If the calendar doesn't end in December 2012, no one knows when it actually will - or if it has already.


Ok, so much for the 2012 talk.

- Rich

[Marty McFly]

so basically, the tooth fairy doesn't exist. maybe.

[Future Soldier]

LULLLZ @ the fools who believed in this horse shyt in the first place. Suckers, there's a couple million born every minute.

[kNiCk_PriDe]

LULLLZ @ the fools who believed in this horse shyt in the first place. Suckers, there's a couple million born every minute.

im just glad donnie walsh aint one of them

[Clyde_Style]

Right after that was reported, another report came out saying the producers of the movie 2012 are now changing the name of the sequel from 2013 to Whenever.

[mjhp911]

Scientist may of got Mayan calendar wrong

Walnuts: "Oh, snap! I shouldn't have gone all-out for this summer then..."

[nyczlegacy]

As if a 2012 apocalypse was imminent..

[bingolong]

Scientist may of got Mayan calendar wrong

Walnuts: "Oh, snap! I shouldn't have gone all-out for this summer then..."

Really. I guess sex in Haiti, was a bad idea.