Knicks Vs. Magic PG Discomfiture

[Besart19]

Ian Begley ‏@IanBegley 30m30 minutes ago

#Knicks say Jose Calderon, Anthony (recovery) & Prigioni (recovery) did not practice today. Andrea Bargnani's participation was limited.

it's obvious melo is injured. they've held him out of the last 2 practices now.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzPszhgmktQ[/youtube]

Even bully-Melo was much quicker and agile with the ball then this season slim-Melo!!

It was no brainer that he was hurt since training camp. Against the Cavs he just tweaked it more!!

[god shammgod]

Chris Herring ‏@HerringWSJ 13m13 minutes ago

RT @Gibberman10: The Knicks are the only team in the NBA that don't have a single lineup that's played 30 minutes together.

this. this is the madness i'm talking about. i have read all your theories and none of them begin to explain this insanity.

[Besart19]

Ian Begley ‏@IanBegley 30m30 minutes ago

#Knicks say Jose Calderon, Anthony (recovery) & Prigioni (recovery) did not practice today. Andrea Bargnani's participation was limited.

it's obvious melo is injured. they've held him out of the last 2 practices now.

Please don't tell me it's his shoulder(s).

It's something in his leg

Both his ankle and knee... But it's quite concerning his decision to heal his shoulder with rest and rehab instead of surgery. I know he was in a contract year, but let's hope he won't reaggravate them!

Melo's tough guy, but he has dealed with many minor/mild injuries in last 3 seasons: elbow, groin, hammstring, knee, ankle, wrist, shoulder, hand (and weight... kidding)

PS: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baske ... -1.1747224 Its was the third time he was dealing with shoulder issues. Rafa Nadal is dealing with similar problem since 2009... even with the surgery he had, he often reaggravates it. Dwight Howard, same as Melo - torn shoulder labrum still not 100% since that injury, though he's not a shooter and it won't affect his game that much!!

[Rasho Brezec]

I love Fisher, already absorbing those Zen mind games by tanking while acting as incompetent.

[bigfnjoe96]

Chris Herring ‏@HerringWSJ 13m13 minutes ago

RT @Gibberman10: The Knicks are the only team in the NBA that don't have a single lineup that's played 30 minutes together.

this. this is the madness i'm talking about. i have read all your theories and none of them begin to explain this insanity.

I mentioned this in my post earlier. 4 Magic starters played over 30 minutes on a back 2 back.

Only starter over 30 (32 minutes) was Melo. Spiff also played 30. That's it.

No wonder we have no continuity on the floor when no one knows when the F their gonna play and for how long

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[KnickswiththeKnack]

Chris Herring ‏@HerringWSJ 13m13 minutes ago

RT @Gibberman10: The Knicks are the only team in the NBA that don't have a single lineup that's played 30 minutes together.

this. this is the madness i'm talking about. i have read all your theories and none of them begin to explain this insanity.

I'll explain: Fish is still figuring things out. There hasn't been any outstanding group, so he's trying to figure out who gels.

At least that's my theory.

[Besart19]

lol

I think rotation are shifting in large part because Fish needs to see who gets it, in large part because of injury issues, and lastly because of our inability to score

True, the injuries and subsequent "injuries" to two projected starters have been a big deal. Jose, you know you're getting solid, competent play there. I was really looking forward to seeing the team with him as floor general. That would have been ok, not great, basketball but at least fun to watch. Bargs is like a rich mans JSmith2

its funny
or not



but Calderon was probably the player, along with Jason Smith and Dallembert, who showed the quickest understanding of the triangle in preseason

Calderon didn't play a ton but he was never confused and never out of position

not to mention his high percentage shooting is something we could really really use

If he and Bargs come back both healthy and in shape, at least our SL could play well!!

Dally/Cole/Smith
Bargs/Amare/Acy
Melo/Early/Wear
Shump/JR/THJ
Jose/Prigs/Larkin

[god shammgod]

Chris Herring ‏@HerringWSJ 13m13 minutes ago

RT @Gibberman10: The Knicks are the only team in the NBA that don't have a single lineup that's played 30 minutes together.

this. this is the madness i'm talking about. i have read all your theories and none of them begin to explain this insanity.

I'll explain: Fish is still figuring things out. There hasn't been any outstanding group, so he's trying to figure out who gels.

At least that's my theory.

i'm afraid that doesn't explain it. there will never be an outstanding group but there have been groups that have been more successful then others. and how can you really look at a group when you barely play them together ? think of it this way, if he did nothing but play one lineup for 8 minutes in 1 half of a game and then that same lineup in 8 minutes of the 2nd half, he would haven played the same lineup for 16 minutes. if he did that in 2 games, he would have beaten the 30 minute total he hasn't reached. it's amazingly senseless.

[Besart19]

I love Fisher, already absorbing those Zen mind games by tanking while acting as incompetent.

Yeah... who saw Cavs game should know that Fisher has guts and smarts who to put/pull out there!!

[Capn'O]

I love Fisher, already absorbing those Zen mind games by tanking while acting as incompetent.

This is like your dream come true, innit? TBQH, I never thought I'd see a Knick tank job. This may be one.

[Moose]

To those who said we need to keep JR and that this team will win 50+ games...

...thanks for playing.

So JR Smith is responsible for the rest of the teams play last night? He's responsible for no defensive effort across the board? He's responsible for Hardaway going 1-8? Did he untie everyone's shoes? You can apply that statement still to everyone on the team not named Carmelo Anthony. The game is played across 48 minutes, not across the last 3.8 seconds.

Nah it was a response to the don't trade JR talk after we were 2-1...don't forget the plan. Get rid of the contract.

[KnickswiththeKnack]

Chris Herring ‏@HerringWSJ 13m13 minutes ago

RT @Gibberman10: The Knicks are the only team in the NBA that don't have a single lineup that's played 30 minutes together.

this. this is the madness i'm talking about. i have read all your theories and none of them begin to explain this insanity.

I'll explain: Fish is still figuring things out. There hasn't been any outstanding group, so he's trying to figure out who gels.

At least that's my theory.

i'm afraid that doesn't explain it. there will never be an outstanding group but there have been groups that have been more successful then others. and how can you really look at a group when you barely play them together ? think of it this way, if he did nothing but play one lineup for 8 minutes in 1 half of a game and then that same lineup in 8 minutes of the 2nd half, he would haven played the same lineup for 16 minutes. if he did that in 2 games, he would have beaten the 30 minute total he hasn't reached. it's amazingly senseless.

The real truth is I have no explanation, that's just me doing my best to rationalise what's been going on. I definitely agree there's a lack of cohesion, but in my mind I feel like there has to be a reason. And the only conclusion I can come up with is that Fish is still trying to figure out what he has on the team & what works.

Kane said it in another thread & I agree, at the end of the day Fish is still a rookie head coach who's barely 6 months removed from playing. I think he's still trying to figure out what he's doing while everyone else is figuring out how to spell "triangle".

[Adelheid]

So Melo is actually injured from the onset? WTH

[Besart19]

I love Fisher, already absorbing those Zen mind games by tanking while acting as incompetent.

This is like your dream come true, innit? TBQH, I never thought I'd see a Knick tank job. This may be one.

Btw, how much R.Lopez might get in FA?!

Because it'll depend a lot on our lottery. If we draft a PG, we cant afford two (near) maxes... In the contrary, if we draft a big then we can sign another one in FA while trading for a PG (or trade those assets for expiring by deadline to make room). I assume, if we get Mudiay then we should go for Aldridge and either Asik or R.Lopez, or Bass/West and Gasol. The other scenario, if we draft a PF/C, then we go for either Rondo or Dragic while pairing Okafor with LMA or Gasol with Towns... If all things go according to the Zen Master(Plan), sure!! But, with Knicks luck (read: curse) and reputation?! Not easy at all!!

Jose, THJ and protected 1st might be enough to get either Rondo or Dragic (or Jackson & Morrow)

[god shammgod]

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone 1h1 hour ago

Derek Fisher says #Knicks are showing "resolve" and not pointing fingers, unlike last year: http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... -1.9615839 …

Fisher said he hasn't decided on a starting lineup for Friday night's game but added that the Knicks might need "some beef in the middle" because Utah has 6-10 Derrick Favors and 6-11 Enes Kanter up front.

honestly. what in the actual f*ck ?

[GONYK]

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone 1h1 hour ago

Derek Fisher says #Knicks are showing "resolve" and not pointing fingers, unlike last year: http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... -1.9615839 …

Fisher said he hasn't decided on a starting lineup for Friday night's game but added that the Knicks might need "some beef in the middle" because Utah has 6-10 Derrick Favors and 6-11 Enes Kanter up front.

honestly. what in the actual f*ck ?

Sounds like Cole is getting some mins tomm

[Besart19]

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone 1h1 hour ago

Derek Fisher says #Knicks are showing "resolve" and not pointing fingers, unlike last year: http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... -1.9615839 …

Fisher said he hasn't decided on a starting lineup for Friday night's game but added that the Knicks might need "some beef in the middle" because Utah has 6-10 Derrick Favors and 6-11 Enes Kanter up front.

honestly. what in the actual f*ck ?

Cole/Amare/Melo/Shump/Larkin

[HarthorneWingo]

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone 1h1 hour ago

Derek Fisher says #Knicks are showing "resolve" and not pointing fingers, unlike last year: http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... -1.9615839 …

Fisher said he hasn't decided on a starting lineup for Friday night's game but added that the Knicks might need "some beef in the middle" because Utah has 6-10 Derrick Favors and 6-11 Enes Kanter up front.

honestly. what in the actual f*ck ?

[ORANGEandBLUE]

The real truth is I have no explanation, that's just me doing my best to rationalise what's been going on. I definitely agree there's a lack of cohesion, but in my mind I feel like there has to be a reason. And the only conclusion I can come up with is that Fish is still trying to figure out what he has on the team & what works.

Kane said it in another thread & I agree, at the end of the day Fish is still a rookie head coach who's barely 6 months removed from playing. I think he's still trying to figure out what he's doing while everyone else is figuring out how to spell "triangle".

It's impossible to see if any line-up works when you give none of them an actual chance to develop actual chemistry. The fact that an actual NBA coach does not grasp this is just as implausible than the idea that he's secretly tanking.

[god shammgod]

Al Iannazzone ‏@Al_Iannazzone 1h1 hour ago

Derek Fisher says #Knicks are showing "resolve" and not pointing fingers, unlike last year: http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal ... -1.9615839 …

Fisher said he hasn't decided on a starting lineup for Friday night's game but added that the Knicks might need "some beef in the middle" because Utah has 6-10 Derrick Favors and 6-11 Enes Kanter up front.

honestly. what in the actual f*ck ?

that owl looks nervous. i'm not nervous, i'm just annoyed. like an old man at a diner who orders soup and it comes cold. i don't expect miracles, i just want my soup to be hot. the way it's supposed to be. in other words, pick a f*cking lineup. and yes, i know.....i'm very negative.