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Re: Offseason Thread Continued - Atlanta Got Crabbes and We're Panicking 

Post#541 » by taj2133 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:57 am

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taj2133 wrote:I was on the celtics board earlier there mod told me there offer for ad is tatum, smart, robert williams, 3 first picks in 2019 draft, and memphis unprotected pick in 2020. If that is true and memphis pick unprotected that means they the pelicans have 2 shots at wiseman the center from memphis.


That Grizzlies pick is Top-6 protected for 2020.

King of canada told me the pick is protected the celtics board told me different story.
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Re: Offseason Thread Continued - Atlanta Got Crabbes and We're Panicking 

Post#542 » by robillionaire » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:59 am

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Re: Offseason Thread Continued - Atlanta Got Crabbes and We're Panicking 

Post#543 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:21 am

taj2133 wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
taj2133 wrote:I was on the celtics board earlier there mod told me there offer for ad is tatum, smart, robert williams, 3 first picks in 2019 draft, and memphis unprotected pick in 2020. If that is true and memphis pick unprotected that means they the pelicans have 2 shots at wiseman the center from memphis.


That Grizzlies pick is Top-6 protected for 2020.

King of canada told me the pick is protected the celtics board told me different story.

Top 6 protected for 2020, Unprotected in 2021 if it fails to convery next year. See:

viewtopic.php?t=1837827

https://985thesportshub.com/2019/05/15/nba-draft-lottery-celtics-grizzlies-top-6-protected-pick-2020/
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Re: Offseason Thread Continued - Atlanta Got Crabbes and We're Panicking 

Post#544 » by Worst_to_First » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:23 am

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Worst_to_First wrote:
taj2133 wrote:I was on the celtics board earlier there mod told me there offer for ad is tatum, smart, robert williams, 3 first picks in 2019 draft, and memphis unprotected pick in 2020. If that is true and memphis pick unprotected that means they the pelicans have 2 shots at wiseman the center from memphis.


That Grizzlies pick is Top-6 protected for 2020.

King of canada told me the pick is protected the celtics board told me different story.


If we commit to the rebuild route we have to find a way to counter David Griffin’s lottery sorcery. He has won four now?
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Re: Offseason Thread Continued - Atlanta Got Crabbes and We're Panicking 

Post#545 » by Zenzibar » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:24 am

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taj2133 wrote:I was on the celtics board earlier there mod told me there offer for ad is tatum, smart, robert williams, 3 first picks in 2019 draft, and memphis unprotected pick in 2020. If that is true and memphis pick unprotected that means they the pelicans have 2 shots at wiseman the center from memphis.


Tatum is the star of that package and probably their goal all along. That Memphis pick is top 6 protected and the 2019 picks are just ok. Also I bet that offer is contingent on AD signing the extension.



But to play with whom in Boston? Kyrie is not really comfortable there and will be an awkward pairing with AD I believe. Also, let's not undervalue the RJ Barrett pick. The Pelicans can sell a ZION/RJ Barrett best friends reunion to their fanbase very easily.
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Re: Offseason Thread Continued - Atlanta Got Crabbes and We're Panicking 

Post#546 » by taj2133 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:25 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
taj2133 wrote:
Worst_to_First wrote:
That Grizzlies pick is Top-6 protected for 2020.

King of canada told me the pick is protected the celtics board told me different story.

Top 6 protected for 2020, Unprotected in 2021 if it fails to convery next year. See:

viewtopic.php?t=1837827

https://985thesportshub.com/2019/05/15/nba-draft-lottery-celtics-grizzlies-top-6-protected-pick-2020/

In 2021 who you think will be worst memphis or dallas my money is probably be memphis.
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Post#547 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:28 am

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Worst_to_First wrote:What seed in the East would a lineup of AD-Horford-Brown-Hayward-Rozier fetch?


5th

Seems about right. Toronto, Bucks, Philly and at least one of Indiana and the two New York teams. I guess if Hayward comes back to his potential they might be better.
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Re: Offseason Thread Continued - Atlanta Got Crabbes and We're Panicking 

Post#548 » by Richard4444 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:31 am

taj2133 wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
taj2133 wrote:King of canada told me the pick is protected the celtics board told me different story.

Top 6 protected for 2020, Unprotected in 2021 if it fails to convery next year. See:

viewtopic.php?t=1837827

https://985thesportshub.com/2019/05/15/nba-draft-lottery-celtics-grizzlies-top-6-protected-pick-2020/

In 2021 who you think will be worst memphis or dallas my money is probably be memphis.


Both will be playoff contenders (barring injuries).
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Re: Offseason Thread Continued - Atlanta Got Crabbes and We're Panicking 

Post#549 » by Richard4444 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:35 am

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taj2133 wrote:
King of Canada wrote:
Tatum is the star of that package and probably their goal all along. That Memphis pick is top 6 protected and the 2019 picks are just ok. Also I bet that offer is contingent on AD signing the extension.

I don't think boston cares if ad doesn't sign the extension if things don't go well they can trade him to some team like the suns or miami in feburary. I believe boston wants to screw it up for everybody the probably think they can paul george, or kawhi leonard him to change his mind. I look at new orleans roster they have no players on there roster outside of jrue holiday, randle, ad,payton and etwaun moore. The pelicans have no wing players on that team they need everything they can get.

That’s a horrible thought process. Why would anybody give the Celtics any package close to that Tatum type deal at the trade deadline knowing it didn’t work out for the Celtics? All teams would lowball and Celtics would have to take a bad offer or lose AD (&Tatum at that point) for nothing. For what? To screw with other teams? Other teams who would have fall back plans? Doesn’t sound smart.

In the end, Celtics will build around Tatum & Brown as they should. Bring Terry back probably too.


I think Boston will give up AD and trade Smart or Horford + picks for Capela.
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Post#550 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:35 am

Richard4444 wrote:
taj2133 wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:Top 6 protected for 2020, Unprotected in 2021 if it fails to convery next year. See:

viewtopic.php?t=1837827

https://985thesportshub.com/2019/05/15/nba-draft-lottery-celtics-grizzlies-top-6-protected-pick-2020/

In 2021 who you think will be worst memphis or dallas my money is probably be memphis.

Both will be playoff contenders (barring injuries).



I think Memphis too. I expect KP to sign with Dallas and Luka-KP to be in the playoffs in 2021. I suspect the Grizz may trade Conley and draft Morant. That probably makes it tough for them to make the playoffs. If they take RJ, he's a beast, keep Conley and JJJ keeps improving then it's closer. The Celtics thread that I linked to has decent discussion of the likely strength of the Grizz over the next two years.
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Post#551 » by taj2133 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:40 am

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King of Canada wrote:
taj2133 wrote:I was on the celtics board earlier there mod told me there offer for ad is tatum, smart, robert williams, 3 first picks in 2019 draft, and memphis unprotected pick in 2020. If that is true and memphis pick unprotected that means they the pelicans have 2 shots at wiseman the center from memphis.


Tatum is the star of that package and probably their goal all along. That Memphis pick is top 6 protected and the 2019 picks are just ok. Also I bet that offer is contingent on AD signing the extension.



But to play with whom in Boston? Kyrie is not really comfortable there and will be an awkward pairing with AD I believe. Also, let's not undervalue the RJ Barrett pick. The Pelicans can sell a ZION/RJ Barrett best friends reunion to their fanbase very easily.

The rj barret pick is fine for the pelicans its everything else they are no comfortable with. If dennis smith get trade to the pelicans it going be his third team in his first three season not great asset for the pelicans. Frank nitkinia hasn't done well on his offensive game its really bad, but as defensive player frank good at that end of floor so that's negative asset to the pelicans. Kevin knox rookie season was up and down he was alright but does david griffin view him as future i don't think so. As great as mitch robinson was for the knicks this year him going back home to so do the pelicans view that as a distraction lot of family in the area of new orleans, it like lonzo ball being distracted in LA which he is distracted because he from LA. I also don't think the pelicans view mitch robinson as next great big man the probably think he is a deandre jordan type of player.
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Post#552 » by Juco24 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:41 am

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They don’t consider Durant part of the core so no news there


EXACTLY!! Remember this from just a week ago... mentioning JEALOUS peers... 5 - 1 says he was referencing KD

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Post#553 » by Isiahthomass » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:45 am

Maybe Durant and his agent did all this with this smokescreen stuff with the Knicks so the Warriors GM didn't think he could get away with KD taking another discount on his next contract?
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Post#554 » by Juco24 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:46 am

taj2133 wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
King of Canada wrote:
Tatum is the star of that package and probably their goal all along. That Memphis pick is top 6 protected and the 2019 picks are just ok. Also I bet that offer is contingent on AD signing the extension.



But to play with whom in Boston? Kyrie is not really comfortable there and will be an awkward pairing with AD I believe. Also, let's not undervalue the RJ Barrett pick. The Pelicans can sell a ZION/RJ Barrett best friends reunion to their fanbase very easily.

The rj barret pick is fine for the pelicans its everything else they are no comfortable with. If dennis smith get trade to the pelicans it going be his third team in his first three season not great asset for the pelicans. Frank nitkinia hasn't done well on his offensive game its really bad, but as defensive player frank good at that end of floor so that's negative asset to the pelicans. Kevin knox rookie season was up and down he was alright but does david griffin view him as future i don't think so. As great as mitch robinson was for the knicks this year him going back home to so do the pelicans view that as a distraction lot of family in the area of new orleans, it like lonzo ball being distracted in LA which he is distracted because he from LA. I also don't think the pelicans view mitch robinson as next great big man the probably think he is a deandre jordan type of player.


Ditto Taj... as I stated earlier others don't view our assets like we do and Tatum's who the Pelicans really want to pair with Zion who's a Dukie himself! Pretty sure no package we can give would outdo Boston and at the end of the day it may be a blessing in disguise
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Post#555 » by Zenzibar » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:47 am

taj2133 wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
King of Canada wrote:
Tatum is the star of that package and probably their goal all along. That Memphis pick is top 6 protected and the 2019 picks are just ok. Also I bet that offer is contingent on AD signing the extension.



But to play with whom in Boston? Kyrie is not really comfortable there and will be an awkward pairing with AD I believe. Also, let's not undervalue the RJ Barrett pick. The Pelicans can sell a ZION/RJ Barrett best friends reunion to their fanbase very easily.

The rj barret pick is fine for the pelicans its everything else they are no comfortable with. If dennis smith get trade to the pelicans it going be his third team in his first three season not great asset for the pelicans. Frank nitkinia hasn't done well on his offensive game its really bad, but as defensive player frank good at that end of floor so that's negative asset to the pelicans. Kevin knox rookie season was up and down he was alright but does david griffin view him as future i don't think so. As great as mitch robinson was for the knicks this year him going back home to so do the pelicans view that as a distraction lot of family in the area of new orleans, it like lonzo ball being distracted in LA which he is distracted because he from LA. I also don't think the pelicans view mitch robinson as next great big man the probably think he is a deandre jordan type of player.


That's way too many assumptions for me. What's facts is that RJ Barrett is a key component to the trade and Knicks biggest chip. But as Juco mentioned it can be a blessing in disguise.
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Post#556 » by GONYK » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:53 am

Isiahthomass wrote:Maybe Durant and his agent did all this with this smokescreen stuff with the Knicks so the Warriors GM didn't think he could get away with KD taking another discount on his next contract?

He could just not sign a contract with a discount...
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Post#557 » by F N 11 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:34 am

GONYK wrote:
Isiahthomass wrote:Maybe Durant and his agent did all this with this smokescreen stuff with the Knicks so the Warriors GM didn't think he could get away with KD taking another discount on his next contract?

He could just not sign a contract with a discount...

Do we listen to ourselves sometimes lol.
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Post#558 » by Context » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:01 am

taj2133 wrote:I was on the celtics board earlier there mod told me there offer for ad is tatum, smart, robert williams, 3 first picks in 2019 draft, and memphis unprotected pick in 2020. If that is true and memphis pick unprotected that means they the pelicans have 2 shots at wiseman the center from memphis.

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Post#559 » by Besart19 » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:59 am

F N 11 wrote:Capela to Boston? For what?


Capela for Hayward

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Re: Offseason Thread Continued - Atlanta Got Crabbes and We're Panicking 

Post#560 » by Isiahthomass » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:16 am

F N 11 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Isiahthomass wrote:Maybe Durant and his agent did all this with this smokescreen stuff with the Knicks so the Warriors GM didn't think he could get away with KD taking another discount on his next contract?

He could just not sign a contract with a discount...

Do we listen to ourselves sometimes lol.


Exactly, he wouldn't be the first to do this.

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