2020-2021 College/Draft Thread 2

[knickstape4ever]

Everyone talking about Boston has brain worms... Did y'all not learn about taking shooting Fs that actually have no jumpers and can't even manage to be 40% from the field and produce at a below average level at UK?

We JUST got burned doing this crap. UK is 6-13, if we draft Boston it's proof we have by far the worst scouts in the league.

I'm hoping we can get Cooper (he'd have to be off the bench because he can't play with RJ) and Brown (baby Kemp) or something like that.

Boston actually has a nice looking jumper. the start to the season was concerning (as was his low 3PT%) but it could be a confidence thing b/c now he's hit 11 of his last 18 3's

his biggest issue IMO is his lack of strength and finishing inside. he doesn't absorb contact well and loses his balance

+ if we judged IQ after his freshman yr (was also a 5 star recruit), he would've been a late 2nd at best. each person is different

[knickstape4ever]

The only thing about Kuminga, he isn’t a fit here.
He shoots as consistent as RJ from 3 & essentially, play the same position.
Of course, talent over fit but yeah.

I would play Kuminga at the 4

[cgf]

He is more realistic than dreaming about Jalen Green and offers insane amount of athletic ability but with more length and elite defensive ability. Depending on if we land outside of the lottery and BJ,Keon and them are gone. He is priority number one for me. I would Patrick Williams him over a bunch of guards that are slated to go higher. Lewis with Thibs is scary. He would be Thibs attack hound.

I love Lewis' defensive potential, but he doesn't have the offensive upside of those other guys. He's purely a 3&D prospect, with no real creation potential.

[E-Balla]

Everyone talking about Boston has brain worms... Did y'all not learn about taking shooting Fs that actually have no jumpers and can't even manage to be 40% from the field and produce at a below average level at UK?

We JUST got burned doing this crap. UK is 6-13, if we draft Boston it's proof we have by far the worst scouts in the league.

I'm hoping we can get Cooper (he'd have to be off the bench because he can't play with RJ) and Brown (baby Kemp) or something like that.

Boston actually has a nice looking jumper. the start to the season was concerning (as was his low 3PT%) but it could be a confidence thing b/c now he's hit 11 of his last 18 3's

his biggest issue IMO is his lack of strength and finishing inside. he doesn't absorb contact well and loses his balance

+ if we judged IQ after his freshman yr (was also a 5 star recruit), he would've been a late 2nd at best. each person is different

IQ was 23rd in his HS class not 4th like Boston. Also unlike them he stayed in college and improved before coming out raw as hell and sucking. Boston needs to stay a year, or be avoided like the plague.

And even while shooting 11 of his last 18 he's still a bad player overall. Like his 29% 3 point percentage is bad but what's worse is that he's weak, can't get to the line, not really all that athletic, and his ball handling (which was supposed to be his best skill) isn't anywhere near what it was hyped up to be.

Like please someone tell me one thing above average about his game...

[TerrenceClarke]

He is more realistic than dreaming about Jalen Green and offers insane amount of athletic ability but with more length and elite defensive ability. Depending on if we land outside of the lottery and BJ,Keon and them are gone. He is priority number one for me. I would Patrick Williams him over a bunch of guards that are slated to go higher. Lewis with Thibs is scary. He would be Thibs attack hound.

I love Lewis' defensive potential, but he doesn't have the offensive upside of those other guys. He's purely a 3&D prospect, with no real creation potential.

I literally said when those guys are gone then he would be the option. It’s obvious I’m not saying he is on those guys level.I don’t see us picking in the lottery and the odds are most of those guys are gone. Which make him a great value pick out of the remaking wings who will be around. I’m speaking of alot of back end first round guards him being better than to me.

[knickstape4ever]

Everyone talking about Boston has brain worms... Did y'all not learn about taking shooting Fs that actually have no jumpers and can't even manage to be 40% from the field and produce at a below average level at UK?

We JUST got burned doing this crap. UK is 6-13, if we draft Boston it's proof we have by far the worst scouts in the league.

I'm hoping we can get Cooper (he'd have to be off the bench because he can't play with RJ) and Brown (baby Kemp) or something like that.

Boston actually has a nice looking jumper. the start to the season was concerning (as was his low 3PT%) but it could be a confidence thing b/c now he's hit 11 of his last 18 3's

his biggest issue IMO is his lack of strength and finishing inside. he doesn't absorb contact well and loses his balance

+ if we judged IQ after his freshman yr (was also a 5 star recruit), he would've been a late 2nd at best. each person is different

IQ was 23rd in his HS class not 4th like Boston. Also unlike them he stayed in college and improved before coming out raw as hell and sucking. Boston needs to stay a year, or be avoided like the plague.

And even while shooting 11 of his last 18 he's still a bad player overall. Like his 29% 3 point percentage is bad but what's worse is that he's weak, can't get to the line, not really all that athletic, and his ball handling (which was supposed to be his best skill) isn't anywhere near what it was hyped up to be.

Like please someone tell me one thing above average about his game...

His %'s are trending up. Anthony Edwards just went #1 and they shoot the same 29.4% from 3 and Edwards FG% was only 3% higher than Boston (37% vs 40%)

gonna cut Boston a bit of slack since he's trending up shooting-wise and it's been a tough yr w/ covid making it harder for freshman to get acclimated

his stock has fallen from the top 5 player he was considered, so it's potentially an opportunity to buy-low on a player who has talent

[robillionaire]

Everyone talking about Boston has brain worms... Did y'all not learn about taking shooting Fs that actually have no jumpers and can't even manage to be 40% from the field and produce at a below average level at UK?

We JUST got burned doing this crap. UK is 6-13, if we draft Boston it's proof we have by far the worst scouts in the league.

I'm hoping we can get Cooper (he'd have to be off the bench because he can't play with RJ) and Brown (baby Kemp) or something like that.

Boston actually has a nice looking jumper. the start to the season was concerning (as was his low 3PT%) but it could be a confidence thing b/c now he's hit 11 of his last 18 3's

his biggest issue IMO is his lack of strength and finishing inside. he doesn't absorb contact well and loses his balance

+ if we judged IQ after his freshman yr (was also a 5 star recruit), he would've been a late 2nd at best. each person is different

IQ was 23rd in his HS class not 4th like Boston. Also unlike them he stayed in college and improved before coming out raw as hell and sucking. Boston needs to stay a year, or be avoided like the plague.

And even while shooting 11 of his last 18 he's still a bad player overall. Like his 29% 3 point percentage is bad but what's worse is that he's weak, can't get to the line, not really all that athletic, and his ball handling (which was supposed to be his best skill) isn't anywhere near what it was hyped up to be.

Like please someone tell me one thing above average about his game...

tankathon has him 29th in the mock draft and 34th on the big board. i'd take him and run at those levels. if we could get him with the pistons pick i'd be thrilled. would rather think of him as a high upside project that needs to work on strength. and yeah the last 2 games he's been nice from 3. They only have 5 games left, will be interesting to see if he finishes the season strong

what's funny is you mentioned "his 29% 3 point percentage is bad" and I was like... damn is he up to 29% now? Because it used to be 15%, then 20%, 25%.... trend is your friend, maybe he'll be a decent shooter

[robillionaire]

some of yall like to cancel these young kids who take time to adjust to the game if they aren't amazing in their first handful of games like when lamelo struggled in his first 6 NBL games. not to say he has the limitless talent of a lamelo because nobody does but sometimes the analysis has to go beyond the numbers. i could really see boston putting it together and being a surprise one day. he's played his way out of the lottery and that's fair but I'm not going to write the obituary on his career yet

look at it like this, he has played in 19 games. if you strikeout his first 7 games and look at the last 12 games, he is shooting 41.6% from 3. he got off to a ridiculously bad shooting start

[E-Balla]

Boston actually has a nice looking jumper. the start to the season was concerning (as was his low 3PT%) but it could be a confidence thing b/c now he's hit 11 of his last 18 3's

his biggest issue IMO is his lack of strength and finishing inside. he doesn't absorb contact well and loses his balance

+ if we judged IQ after his freshman yr (was also a 5 star recruit), he would've been a late 2nd at best. each person is different

IQ was 23rd in his HS class not 4th like Boston. Also unlike them he stayed in college and improved before coming out raw as hell and sucking. Boston needs to stay a year, or be avoided like the plague.

And even while shooting 11 of his last 18 he's still a bad player overall. Like his 29% 3 point percentage is bad but what's worse is that he's weak, can't get to the line, not really all that athletic, and his ball handling (which was supposed to be his best skill) isn't anywhere near what it was hyped up to be.

Like please someone tell me one thing above average about his game...

His %'s are trending up. Anthony Edwards just went #1 and they shoot the same 29.4% from 3 and Edwards FG% was only 3% higher than Boston (37% vs 40%)

gonna cut Boston a bit of slack since he's trending up shooting-wise and it's been a tough yr w/ covid making it harder for freshman to get acclimated

his stock has fallen from the top 5 player he was considered, so it's potentially an opportunity to buy-low on a player who has talent

I still don't like the Anthony Edwards pick. At least he's super athletic though, Boston isn't. Again what is he above average at? Not talking highschool but so far in the NCAA? He allegedly has talent. Guys like that rarely work out. He's in that Josh Selby category.

[E-Balla]

some of yall like to cancel these young kids who take time to adjust to the game if they aren't amazing in their first handful of games like when lamelo struggled in his first 6 NBL games. not to say he has the limitless talent of a lamelo because nobody does but sometimes the analysis has to go beyond the numbers. i could really see boston putting it together and being a surprise one day. he's played his way out of the lottery and that's fair but I'm not going to write the obituary on his career yet

look at it like this, he has played in 19 games. if you strikeout his first 7 games and look at the last 12 games, he is shooting 41.6% from 3. he got off to a ridiculously bad shooting start

LaMelo always looked good. When his shot isn't falling his talent is still obvious. Jumps off the screen. Don't compare that to Boston. I'm just not big on him at all. He doesn't have that it factor.

[knickstape4ever]

IQ was 23rd in his HS class not 4th like Boston. Also unlike them he stayed in college and improved before coming out raw as hell and sucking. Boston needs to stay a year, or be avoided like the plague.

And even while shooting 11 of his last 18 he's still a bad player overall. Like his 29% 3 point percentage is bad but what's worse is that he's weak, can't get to the line, not really all that athletic, and his ball handling (which was supposed to be his best skill) isn't anywhere near what it was hyped up to be.

Like please someone tell me one thing above average about his game...

His %'s are trending up. Anthony Edwards just went #1 and they shoot the same 29.4% from 3 and Edwards FG% was only 3% higher than Boston (37% vs 40%)

gonna cut Boston a bit of slack since he's trending up shooting-wise and it's been a tough yr w/ covid making it harder for freshman to get acclimated

his stock has fallen from the top 5 player he was considered, so it's potentially an opportunity to buy-low on a player who has talent

I still don't like the Anthony Edwards pick. At least he's super athletic though, Boston isn't. Again what is he above average at? Not talking highschool but so far in the NCAA? He allegedly has talent. Guys like that rarely work out. He's in that Josh Selby category.

he does have talent. he has a good handle for a wing, can create space and can shoot. his #'s aren't great but the form is good and he's 18, I'm willing to be patient w/ him considering the circumstances of the past year

he obviously needs to get stronger, but that'll come w/ time. reminds me of Brandon Ingram

[cgf]

He is more realistic than dreaming about Jalen Green and offers insane amount of athletic ability but with more length and elite defensive ability. Depending on if we land outside of the lottery and BJ,Keon and them are gone. He is priority number one for me. I would Patrick Williams him over a bunch of guards that are slated to go higher. Lewis with Thibs is scary. He would be Thibs attack hound.

I love Lewis' defensive potential, but he doesn't have the offensive upside of those other guys. He's purely a 3&D prospect, with no real creation potential.

I literally said when those guys are gone then he would be the option. It’s obvious I’m not saying he is on those guys level.I don’t see us picking in the lottery and the odds are most of those guys are gone. Which make him a great value pick out of the remaking wings who will be around. I’m speaking of alot of back end first round guards him being better than to me.

Wasn't so much disagreeing with you as bouncing off your post to comment on the one thing that keeps me from loving him higher...cause I love the way he defends.

[robillionaire]

some of yall like to cancel these young kids who take time to adjust to the game if they aren't amazing in their first handful of games like when lamelo struggled in his first 6 NBL games. not to say he has the limitless talent of a lamelo because nobody does but sometimes the analysis has to go beyond the numbers. i could really see boston putting it together and being a surprise one day. he's played his way out of the lottery and that's fair but I'm not going to write the obituary on his career yet

look at it like this, he has played in 19 games. if you strikeout his first 7 games and look at the last 12 games, he is shooting 41.6% from 3. he got off to a ridiculously bad shooting start

LaMelo always looked good. When his shot isn't falling his talent is still obvious. Jumps off the screen. Don't compare that to Boston. I'm just not big on him at all. He doesn't have that it factor.

that's revisionist history, be honest

he was getting skewered for 15% 3pt shooting, not playing defense, being all flash and no substance, etc.

i'm not comparing that to boston but just young players in general when they struggle out of the gate to say they could still turn into something

[TerrenceClarke]

I love Lewis' defensive potential, but he doesn't have the offensive upside of those other guys. He's purely a 3&D prospect, with no real creation potential.

I literally said when those guys are gone then he would be the option. It’s obvious I’m not saying he is on those guys level.I don’t see us picking in the lottery and the odds are most of those guys are gone. Which make him a great value pick out of the remaking wings who will be around. I’m speaking of alot of back end first round guards him being better than to me.

Wasn't so much disagreeing with you as bouncing off your post to comment on the one thing that keeps me from loving him higher...cause I love the way he defends.

Well of course You wish he was a better shot creator. But a 3 & D prospect of his caliber is still good if we have to pick later in the round is mostly my point. I’m pretty sure most of us would rather see him in that role vs. a Bullock. His measurable are elite even if his iso game isn’t.

[E-Balla]

His %'s are trending up. Anthony Edwards just went #1 and they shoot the same 29.4% from 3 and Edwards FG% was only 3% higher than Boston (37% vs 40%)

gonna cut Boston a bit of slack since he's trending up shooting-wise and it's been a tough yr w/ covid making it harder for freshman to get acclimated

his stock has fallen from the top 5 player he was considered, so it's potentially an opportunity to buy-low on a player who has talent

I still don't like the Anthony Edwards pick. At least he's super athletic though, Boston isn't. Again what is he above average at? Not talking highschool but so far in the NCAA? He allegedly has talent. Guys like that rarely work out. He's in that Josh Selby category.

he does have talent. he has a good handle for a wing, can create space and can shoot. his #'s aren't great but the form is good and he's 18, I'm willing to be patient w/ him considering the circumstances of the past year

he obviously needs to get stronger, but that'll come w/ time. reminds me of Brandon Ingram

I asked what he's done well at UK. His handle seemed good in highschool, not so much in college against college defenders. I mean I hope he's successful (I hope everyone hits their feet case scenario) but I'm not seeing that talent he was supposed to have.

[E-Balla]

some of yall like to cancel these young kids who take time to adjust to the game if they aren't amazing in their first handful of games like when lamelo struggled in his first 6 NBL games. not to say he has the limitless talent of a lamelo because nobody does but sometimes the analysis has to go beyond the numbers. i could really see boston putting it together and being a surprise one day. he's played his way out of the lottery and that's fair but I'm not going to write the obituary on his career yet

look at it like this, he has played in 19 games. if you strikeout his first 7 games and look at the last 12 games, he is shooting 41.6% from 3. he got off to a ridiculously bad shooting start

LaMelo always looked good. When his shot isn't falling his talent is still obvious. Jumps off the screen. Don't compare that to Boston. I'm just not big on him at all. He doesn't have that it factor.

that's revisionist history, be honest

he was getting skewered for 15% 3pt shooting, not playing defense, being all flash and no substance, etc.

i'm not comparing that to boston but just young players in general when they struggle out of the gate to say they could still turn into something

It isn't. The second I saw LaMelo in Australia (not when he was an unathletic little kid that didn't hit puberty yet) it was obvious he was going to be a star. His mentality, experience in the spotlight, drive to be a star, athleticism, size, passing vision, and the best handles coming out of the draft since Kyrie stood out on film. He stands out on the court the same way Jason Williams did but he's 6-7 not 6-0.

[DowNY]

some of yall like to cancel these young kids who take time to adjust to the game if they aren't amazing in their first handful of games like when lamelo struggled in his first 6 NBL games. not to say he has the limitless talent of a lamelo because nobody does but sometimes the analysis has to go beyond the numbers. i could really see boston putting it together and being a surprise one day. he's played his way out of the lottery and that's fair but I'm not going to write the obituary on his career yet

look at it like this, he has played in 19 games. if you strikeout his first 7 games and look at the last 12 games, he is shooting 41.6% from 3. he got off to a ridiculously bad shooting start

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[DowNY]

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