Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

[Jalen Bluntson]

Ok, going to list some FA's. The purpose of this exercise is to pick two.
We can't assume the Knicks can just trade for SGA. Or Beal. Or Lavine. Or Lillard.
Let's assume the Knicks can't trade for any of them, or the cost of the trade is just a bad idea for a team not exactly overflowing with assets.

These are players who are FA's - or might be - coming up.

I think Richard44444444444444444444444 or BX3QEWRP[I%&# can back up this assumption, but pretty sure once (if?) Randle gets signed/extended, followed by RJ coming up on his deal, the Knicks are going to be capped out for a while.

So the idea is to get players NOW (yes, I know this FA class isn't that great) for the team to make a run that most likely coincides with Randle's years. The players signed can have less years than Randle - the Knicks don't have to automatically sign a player(s) for 4 years; just be aware that the idea of signing CP3 for 40 million X2 so "Knicks will have 40 million for 23-24 season probably isn't true, as Randle\RJ ALONE will be taking up at about 60 million in cap space.

So, the idea is pick two players who can improve the team. Shade young and they can be resigned after "The Randle years" or go a little older and match Randle's prime with their prime.

CP3
Conley
Lowry
Ball

Kawhi
DeRozan
Trent Jr
Powell
Fournier

Here's some choices from the "money left over, fill that bench"
Burks
Olynyk
Ibaka
James Johnson
Lou Williams
Derek Rose
Bullocks
TJ McConnell
Batum
Taj Gibson
Nerlens Noel

Delladova
Bazemore
Frank


Players actually under contract for Knicks

PG: ?/?
SG: RJ/IQ
SF: ?/Vildoza
PF: Randle\Obi
C: Mitch
Fortnight: Knox
* I might have missed a name.

Build that roster!

Vildoza is a SF? Thought he was a PG. I believe Pelle is under contract.

?/Vildoza
RJ/IQ
?/Knox
Randle/Obi
Mitch/Pelle

That's what I have as the roster for next year so far.

Vildoza is basically Burks. SG with some PG abilities. I put him at "SF" so there wasn't 3 SG's there, and also since SG and SF are basically interchangeable (within reason) as "wings"

He was advertised as a PG though. You made this assessment after a few highlight videos? I trust your analysis because we tend to see things on a similar level. I was hoping we went after a true PG with this guy. If that's not the case/reality... I'm less optimistic about next year if only slightly. I've been a fan pressing 4 decades and we have NEVER really had that PG. IT IS MIND BOGGLING!

[TheGreenArrow]

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Don’t know what the deal would be but it’s interesting!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently the deal would be toppin,Knox, and 21 for Sexton!!!!!

Ehhhh…..

[TheGreenArrow]

Sexton/Drose/vildoza
Rj/IQ
Hart/?
Randle/Carmelo
Mitch/taj

Would love to see this squad next year!!!!!!!!!!

[Polk377]

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Don’t know what the deal would be but it’s interesting!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently the deal would be toppin,Knox, and 21 for Sexton!!!!!

Ehhhh…..

I would do it in a heartbeat. Draft Duarte at #19, Vrenz at #32 then sign Oubre to a 3 year $40 mil deal and look at stretch options like Otto Porter Jr, Mcdermott and Olynyk. Bring back Bullock, Rose and Noel. This is of course if the Knicks don't swing for the fences this year and play the short growth game.


PG: Sexton/Rose/Valdoza
SG: Barrett/Quickley/Duarte
SF: Oubre/Bullock
PF: Randle/stretch 4/5/Vrenz
C: Robinson/ Noel

[thebuzzardman]

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Don’t know what the deal would be but it’s interesting!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently the deal would be toppin,Knox, and 21 for Sexton!!!!!

Ehhhh…..

I would do it in a heartbeat. Draft Duarte at #19, Vrenz at #32 then sign Oubre to a 3 year $40 mil deal and look at stretch options like Otto Porter Jr, Mcdermott and Olynyk. Bring back Bullock, Rose and Noel. This is of course if the Knicks don't swing for the fences this year and play the short growth game.


PG: Sexton/Rose/Valdoza
SG: Barrett/Quickley/Duarte
SF: Oubre/Bullock
PF: Randle/stretch 4/5/Vrenz
C: Robinson/ Noel

How about Fournier instead of Oubre? Obviously he's probably be like 3 years and 75 million...

[msanchez2725]

Whatever we do this off-season, I just hope we are smart enough to have the space for a max in 2022. That’s why a guy like Murray, who has 3 years left at 48 mil works so well. Sexton would be intriguing too but I’d wait a year to extend him if that’s the route we go.

[Polk377]

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Don’t know what the deal would be but it’s interesting!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently the deal would be toppin,Knox, and 21 for Sexton!!!!!

Ehhhh…..

I would do it in a heartbeat. Draft Duarte at #19, Vrenz at #32 then sign Oubre to a 3 year $40 mil deal and look at stretch options like Otto Porter Jr, Mcdermott and Olynyk. Bring back Bullock, Rose and Noel. This is of course if the Knicks don't swing for the fences this year and play the short growth game.


PG: Sexton/Rose/Valdoza
SG: Barrett/Quickley/Duarte
SF: Oubre/Bullock
PF: Randle/stretch 4/5/Vrenz
C: Robinson/ Noel

How about Fournier instead of Oubre? Obviously he's probably be like 3 years and 75 million...

I think Oubre has potential to grow and have a Randle-esqe breakout. We already know what Fournier is which isn't a needle mover.

[8516knicks]

Ok, going to list some FA's. The purpose of this exercise is to pick two.
We can't assume the Knicks can just trade for SGA. Or Beal. Or Lavine. Or Lillard.
Let's assume the Knicks can't trade for any of them, or the cost of the trade is just a bad idea for a team not exactly overflowing with assets.

These are players who are FA's - or might be - coming up.

I think Richard44444444444444444444444 or BX3QEWRP[I%&# can back up this assumption, but pretty sure once (if?) Randle gets signed/extended, followed by RJ coming up on his deal, the Knicks are going to be capped out for a while.

So the idea is to get players NOW (yes, I know this FA class isn't that great) for the team to make a run that most likely coincides with Randle's years. The players signed can have less years than Randle - the Knicks don't have to automatically sign a player(s) for 4 years; just be aware that the idea of signing CP3 for 40 million X2 so "Knicks will have 40 million for 23-24 season probably isn't true, as Randle\RJ ALONE will be taking up at about 60 million in cap space.

So, the idea is pick two players who can improve the team. Shade young and they can be resigned after "The Randle years" or go a little older and match Randle's prime with their prime.

CP3
Conley
Lowry
Ball

Kawhi
DeRozan
Trent Jr
Powell
Fournier

Here's some choices from the "money left over, fill that bench"
Burks
Olynyk
Ibaka
James Johnson
Lou Williams
Derek Rose
Bullocks
TJ McConnell
Batum
Taj Gibson
Nerlens Noel

Delladova
Bazemore
Frank


Players actually under contract for Knicks

PG: ?/?
SG: RJ/IQ
SF: ?/Vildoza
PF: Randle\Obi
C: Mitch
Fortnight: Knox
* I might have missed a name.

Build that roster!

Group PG
OF these, the cheaper of CP3, Conley and Lowry = # !
Ball # 1B

GROUP SHOOTER
DeRozan #1
Powell #2

BENCH BIG
and additional leftovers -
Olynk #1
Ibaka #2 (if cheap enough)

[Knicks1992]

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Don’t know what the deal would be but it’s interesting!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently the deal would be toppin,Knox, and 21 for Sexton!!!!!

Ehhhh…..

I would do it in a heartbeat. Draft Duarte at #19, Vrenz at #32 then sign Oubre to a 3 year $40 mil deal and look at stretch options like Otto Porter Jr, Mcdermott and Olynyk. Bring back Bullock, Rose and Noel. This is of course if the Knicks don't swing for the fences this year and play the short growth game.


PG: Sexton/Rose/Valdoza
SG: Barrett/Quickley/Duarte
SF: Oubre/Bullock
PF: Randle/stretch 4/5/Vrenz
C: Robinson/ Noel

Duarate is not going to be there at 19. He is ready to step in right now. Teams before 19 will want his shooting and defense makeup even though he is 24 years old. A perfect role/rotation player right away in the making.

[Knicks1992]

I would do it in a heartbeat. Draft Duarte at #19, Vrenz at #32 then sign Oubre to a 3 year $40 mil deal and look at stretch options like Otto Porter Jr, Mcdermott and Olynyk. Bring back Bullock, Rose and Noel. This is of course if the Knicks don't swing for the fences this year and play the short growth game.


PG: Sexton/Rose/Valdoza
SG: Barrett/Quickley/Duarte
SF: Oubre/Bullock
PF: Randle/stretch 4/5/Vrenz
C: Robinson/ Noel

How about Fournier instead of Oubre? Obviously he's probably be like 3 years and 75 million...

I think Oubre has potential to grow and have a Randle-esqe breakout. We already know what Fournier is which isn't a needle mover.

Oubre does not have the makings of an outside shot to swing it to. We already have some slashers to the basket. Need perimiter wing shooters who can also switch off and defend multiple positions.

[WargamesX]

What offense does Turner bring? Like seriously I don't get it. And don't tell me it's his 3 point shot. 33% on more than 4 attempts isn't what brings offense. He's averaging 12 points in 31 minutes on a 17% USG. Mitch'll average that, too if he'd get the same usage.

MRob's only offense is dunking the basketball. I'll take anything around 35% 3 point shooting from my center and he also can make layups and can shoot anywhere close to the basket. He will spread the floor for the rest of the offense cause teams aren't gonna just stay 10-15 feet away from him if he has the ball behind the 3 point line and while doing all that he can still block shots with the best of them.

Turner is probably too expensive. I'd go with Mitch and sign a relatively cheap 5/4 type who stretch the floor, like Ibaka or Olynyk.
Make Taj a coach.
Say goodbye to Noel.

S&T Noel for a 1 year expiring that can help short term and be a candidate for that 2022 MLE

[spree2kawhi]

I'd love Dejounte and Sexton. I'd also like to get them both actually, but one of them would simply be great. The Spurs want to move up in the draft though, so it doesn't seem like we're in the race.

[HarthorneWingo]

I'd love Dejounte and Sexton. I'd also like to get them both actually, but one of them would simply be great. The Spurs want to move up in the draft though, so it doesn't seem like we're in the race.

I'd like them each to grow 3 inches.

[spree2kawhi]

I'd love Dejounte and Sexton. I'd also like to get them both actually, but one of them would simply be great. The Spurs want to move up in the draft though, so it doesn't seem like we're in the race.

I'd like them each to grow 3 inches.

It's true but that wouldn't be much of a problem imo

[WargamesX]

I'd love Dejounte and Sexton. I'd also like to get them both actually, but one of them would simply be great. The Spurs want to move up in the draft though, so it doesn't seem like we're in the race.

I'd like them each to grow 3 inches.

It's true but that wouldn't be much of a problem imo

Last time the Spurs moved up they got Kawhi….. if I was a team I would ask for who and then reneg and draft them myself

All seriousness I would not do it.

[-YogiBiz-]

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Don’t know what the deal would be but it’s interesting!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently the deal would be toppin,Knox, and 21 for Sexton!!!!!

Ehhhh…..

I'm taking that deal and running to Silver. We get to keep 19, IQ and 32? I don't think Miami has their own first rounder until 2024, and I think the best young guy they can send back to Cleveland is Goga I doubt they move Brogdon and as a rebuilding team like Cleveland do you like the idea of adding Vets? Although Turner for Sexton could be the deal in Indiana, so there is that, but I think the Cavs would rather just pay Allen now, then take Turner's money and pay him next year. lol

[spree2kawhi]

I'd love Dejounte and Sexton. I'd also like to get them both actually, but one of them would simply be great. The Spurs want to move up in the draft though, so it doesn't seem like we're in the race.

I'd like them each to grow 3 inches.

That's what she said

[DaGawd]

I'd love Dejounte and Sexton. I'd also like to get them both actually, but one of them would simply be great. The Spurs want to move up in the draft though, so it doesn't seem like we're in the race.

I'd like them each to grow 3 inches.

Dejounte is already like 6’5 or 6’6

[Deeeez Knicks]

I still don't know about paying Sexton while also giving up some assets. Then we may also have to take Love's contract in a deal. Basically is Sexton/RJ/Randle a big 3 that can contend? Seems like we would be locked into them.

Maybe just sign Reggie Jackson for much cheaper if we are looking for a scoring Guard.

[DaGawd]

I still don't know about paying Sexton while also giving up some assets. Then we may also have to take Love's contract in a deal. Basically is Sexton/RJ/Randle a big 3 that can contend? Seems like we would be locked into them.

Maybe just sign Reggie Jackson for much cheaper if we are looking for a scoring Guard.

I hate the idea of Reggie Jackson.. he’d be classic Knicks forcing a player into a role they’re probably not best suited for