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Maybe Randle has agoraphobia
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damn actually put in effort just for the contract. sad.
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Hes_On_Fire wrote:This is not saying much.
Fox can't shoot and we have enough guys who are erratic. He's best served as a complimentary piece on another team, not being put into a position where he has to carry the team.
Then keep making deals but for now he just changes the entire dynamic of how we play. I don't know that the results will change dramatically with him right away but the actual way we play our game just needs a fresh start and for that alone I'd still do it. He's a young talent. You get him, put guys who wanna move the ball and pick up the pace and see what you got. Don't forget we still got the war chest.
And I'm not ignoring the shooting but he's had good shooting seasons before. He's also had bad coaching. I think Thibs could improve his decision making and honestly I think Thibs needs this. Maybe he doesn't even know he needs it but I think he'll do better when the ball dominant player is a PG who can really push the ball, the pace and scores quicker.
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Nazrmohamed wrote:Hes_On_Fire wrote:This is not saying much.
Fox can't shoot and we have enough guys who are erratic. He's best served as a complimentary piece on another team, not being put into a position where he has to carry the team.
Then keep making deals but for now he just changes the entire dynamic of how we play. I don't know that the results will change dramatically with him right away but the actual way we play our game just needs a fresh start and for that alone I'd still do it. He's a young talent. You get him, put guys who wanna move the ball and pick up the pace and see what you got. Don't forget we still got the war chest.
And I'm not ignoring the shooting but he's had good shooting seasons before. He's also had bad coaching. I think Thibs could improve his decision making and honestly I think Thibs needs this. Maybe he doesn't even know he needs it but I think he'll do better when the ball dominant player is a PG who can really push the ball, the pace and scores quicker.
I’m tired of not wanting a guy because they have a flaw. We always regret it. We didn’t want Demar because he couldn’t shoot either. Im over that way of thinking.
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F N 11 wrote:Nazrmohamed wrote:Hes_On_Fire wrote:This is not saying much.
Fox can't shoot and we have enough guys who are erratic. He's best served as a complimentary piece on another team, not being put into a position where he has to carry the team.
Then keep making deals but for now he just changes the entire dynamic of how we play. I don't know that the results will change dramatically with him right away but the actual way we play our game just needs a fresh start and for that alone I'd still do it. He's a young talent. You get him, put guys who wanna move the ball and pick up the pace and see what you got. Don't forget we still got the war chest.
And I'm not ignoring the shooting but he's had good shooting seasons before. He's also had bad coaching. I think Thibs could improve his decision making and honestly I think Thibs needs this. Maybe he doesn't even know he needs it but I think he'll do better when the ball dominant player is a PG who can really push the ball, the pace and scores quicker.
I’m tired of not wanting a guy because they have a flaw. We always regret it. We didn’t want Demar because he couldn’t shoot either. Im over that way of thinking.
I'm with you.
If a player has a couple of elite skills, I'll take my chances with his weaknesses.

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He even outplayed AD in that game. As a Randle fan I wish we had that version of him back. But unfortunately I think he needs a change of scenery
Speaking of a change in scenery, I am starting to think that a Randle, Fournier and Burks for Westbrook trade should actually be a no-brainer for the Lakers.
Fournier should be able to give them what they expect to get from Buddy Hield and is at a cheaper contract with same length. Julius should provide insurance for the injury prone AD and I could actually see him thrive in that C position similar to how the Lakers have been playing LeBron. Burks meanwhile provides them a Swiss army type of veteran player that they can use.
This trade could be like a golden ticket for the Lakers to be able to salvage the season but not sure if LeGM’s ego will bite on an offer like this.
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Worst_to_First wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:
He even outplayed AD in that game. As a Randle fan I wish we had that version of him back. But unfortunately I think he needs a change of scenery
Speaking of a change in scenery, I am starting to think that a Randle, Fournier and Burks for Westbrook trade should actually be a no-brainer for the Lakers.
Fournier should be able to give them what they expect to get from Buddy Hield and is at a cheaper contract with same length. Julius should provide insurance for the injury prone AD and I could actually see him thrive in that C position similar to how the Lakers have been playing LeBron. Burks meanwhile provides them a Swiss army type of veteran player that they can use.
This trade could be like a golden ticket for the Lakers to be able to salvage the season but not sure if LeGM’s ego will bite on an offer like this.
The Lakers would always take that deal, the issue is the Knicks shouldn’t. Am I the only guy who remembers the Knicks traded the Cavs JR and Shump for some seconds and then Lebron thanked the Knicks (aka Phil Jackson) for being so stupid…. at the championship parade?
That is what trading Randle, Fournier, and Burks for Westbrook and a 2027 1st is doing. It’s giving Lebron a championship and an opportunity for him to thank the Knicks AGAIN for being so stupid at the championship parade. I expect the Knicks FO remembers this because Aller was part of that trade from the Cavs side.
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I like Fox but idk about trading for him right now. There is a really good player in there but idk if the Knicks need to be the team to take that risk. People already think Randle is over paid, wait till they have to watch Fox brick jumpers and know he is getting paid almost 30 million this year. A sign and trade at the end of the year for Brunson is the move I make. I just hope Cuban still hates the luxury tax more than he likes winning.
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Worst_to_First wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:
He even outplayed AD in that game. As a Randle fan I wish we had that version of him back. But unfortunately I think he needs a change of scenery
Speaking of a change in scenery, I am starting to think that a Randle, Fournier and Burks for Westbrook trade should actually be a no-brainer for the Lakers.
Fournier should be able to give them what they expect to get from Buddy Hield and is at a cheaper contract with same length. Julius should provide insurance for the injury prone AD and I could actually see him thrive in that C position similar to how the Lakers have been playing LeBron. Burks meanwhile provides them a Swiss army type of veteran player that they can use.
This trade could be like a golden ticket for the Lakers to be able to salvage the season but not sure if LeGM’s ego will bite on an offer like this.
Lakers would def take that trade. But I don't think we should unless we are getting their first round pick and maybe Reeves/THT in return. I wouldn't just take on Westbrook

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3toheadmelo wrote:Worst_to_First wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:He even outplayed AD in that game. As a Randle fan I wish we had that version of him back. But unfortunately I think he needs a change of scenery
Speaking of a change in scenery, I am starting to think that a Randle, Fournier and Burks for Westbrook trade should actually be a no-brainer for the Lakers.
Fournier should be able to give them what they expect to get from Buddy Hield and is at a cheaper contract with same length. Julius should provide insurance for the injury prone AD and I could actually see him thrive in that C position similar to how the Lakers have been playing LeBron. Burks meanwhile provides them a Swiss army type of veteran player that they can use.
This trade could be like a golden ticket for the Lakers to be able to salvage the season but not sure if LeGM’s ego will bite on an offer like this.
Lakers would def take that trade. But I don't think we should unless we are getting their first round pick and maybe Reeves/THT in return. I wouldn't just take on Westbrook
Yeah we should at least be compensated by a 2027 1st rounder in that deal.
Am not that high on THT I’d rather free up minutes at the wings for Cam and Grimes.
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Worst_to_First wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Worst_to_First wrote:
Speaking of a change in scenery, I am starting to think that a Randle, Fournier and Burks for Westbrook trade should actually be a no-brainer for the Lakers.
Fournier should be able to give them what they expect to get from Buddy Hield and is at a cheaper contract with same length. Julius should provide insurance for the injury prone AD and I could actually see him thrive in that C position similar to how the Lakers have been playing LeBron. Burks meanwhile provides them a Swiss army type of veteran player that they can use.
This trade could be like a golden ticket for the Lakers to be able to salvage the season but not sure if LeGM’s ego will bite on an offer like this.
Lakers would def take that trade. But I don't think we should unless we are getting their first round pick and maybe Reeves/THT in return. I wouldn't just take on Westbrook
Yeah we should at least be compensated by a 2027 1st rounder in that deal.
Am not that high on THT I’d rather free up minutes at the wings for Cam and Grimes.
I like the deal with just the 1st rounder along with Westbrook for the most part except I'd rather give them Kemba instead of Burks.
I would then trade either one of Burks and Noel (or both) to another win now team for expiring and picks.
Either way, it should be a great deal for the Lakers. It balances their team out a bit more, makes them deep and they still have a Big 3, with Julius Randle this time as a 3rd option which he should be more suited for.
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He's only here for 2 years. The best thing about it is... he gives full effort on the floor, win or lose. That makes him a good influence on the team, whether or not he is efficient, it's not like we're contending any time soon.
The Lakers are on borrowed time so they need to win this season or the next, and with very little assets.
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He's only here for 2 years. The best thing about it is... he gives full effort on the floor, win or lose. That makes him a good influence on the team, whether or not he is efficient, it's not like we're contending any time soon.
The Lakers are on borrowed time so they need to win this season or the next, and with very little assets.
You got to be kidding me

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He's only here for 2 years. The best thing about it is... he gives full effort on the floor, win or lose. That makes him a good influence on the team, whether or not he is efficient, it's not like we're contending any time soon.
The Lakers are on borrowed time so they need to win this season or the next, and with very little assets.
Was thinking more along the lines of just sitting Russ and keep him in the books in case we need his contract in a trade although Dolan would most likely prefer to use Russ to sell tickets.
Russ will be dependent on guys like Obi, Grimes and Mitch for him to rake up his assist totals although my worry is that he would grab a chunk of ball handling duties away from RJ and Cam.
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Knicks fans have abandoned the smartesr fandom for the most passionate.ccvle wrote:Buttah304 wrote:Anyone who compared Julius’s skillset to Melos is down right embarrassing. The only thing worse are the fans who didn’t realize just how good Melo was when he was surrounded by utter trash. Randle is the biggest phony alive. He’s a snitch rat bastard.
Knicks fans have a long history of being wrong on alot of things. I don't know if other fan base is the same or just Knicks fans here on realgm. I remember espn didn't rank Carmelo as one of the top 15 players and Knicks fans here were so offended. But the ranking was actually corrected. Carmelo started his decline right at that time. Alot of Knicks fans were also upset that Knicks weren't ranked one of the top east 4 teams at the beginning of the season. We all knew how that went. Last year you weren't allowed to say anything bad about thibs or randle. This year, they can't wait to get them both off the team.
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Why isn't he trying to hit his incrntives? I don't think itl's the contract. He isn't chilling. He's actively unhappy.Im Coming Home wrote:
damn actually put in effort just for the contract. sad.
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that wont work in ny. dolan would question the management for sitting/sending home an expensive player. Kemba 9m salary but dolan felt the need to butt in with the removal in rotation, and westy is like 50m in salary
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prophet_of_rage wrote:Why isn't he trying to hit his incrntives? I don't think itl's the contract. He isn't chilling. He's actively unhappy.Im Coming Home wrote:
damn actually put in effort just for the contract. sad.
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That Playoff series mentally broke him.
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WargamesX wrote:knicksNOTslick wrote:
He's only here for 2 years. The best thing about it is... he gives full effort on the floor, win or lose. That makes him a good influence on the team, whether or not he is efficient, it's not like we're contending any time soon.
The Lakers are on borrowed time so they need to win this season or the next, and with very little assets.
You got to be kidding me![]()
Westbrook has played with PG. KD, Harden, Melo, Beal, and Lebron and they couldn’t make it work… but the Knicks will make it work because he gives full effort
Define make it work, because I said we're not contending either way. With Westbrook or with Randle and Fournier. But at least Westbrook don't half ass it out there and he won't take minutes from our young forwards.
I say the Knicks will be better off with Russell than with Randle's lack of effort. And we only have 2 years, not even, instead of what we committed to with Randle and Fournier. Are we doing well right now? You'd prefer that we stay as is?