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Post#541 » by TerrenceClarke » Mon May 23, 2022 6:45 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Wiggins making a huge impact. Easy to see RJ being able to do similiar things. Big wings with all around skills can be valuable. Mavs are missing that kind of player (besides Luka)



Umm....RJ is not in the same class as Wiggins I would not see them doing the same. Wiggins was an ELITE prospect....In retrospect RJ isnt.
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Post#542 » by TerrenceClarke » Mon May 23, 2022 6:49 pm

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I was telling Melo that there has to be more to it then Sarver Just being Cheap. He is not that cheap for such a young player if he was truly a stud. Ayton is def problematic somewhat


The Suns are like 1 million under the luxury tax. Sarver will always not want to pay that.

Nash, Marion, Amar'e

lets go of Joe Johnson

Chris Paul, Booker, Bridges

will let go of Ayton


Bruh he gave Bridges 90 MILLION.

NONE of those mentioned player even came close to a contract like that. So part of it to me is his behavior regarldess to waht he did over a decade ago.
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Post#543 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon May 23, 2022 7:03 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Wiggins making a huge impact. Easy to see RJ being able to do similiar things. Big wings with all around skills can be valuable. Mavs are missing that kind of player (besides Luka)



Umm....RJ is not in the same class as Wiggins I would not see them doing the same. Wiggins was an ELITE prospect....In retrospect RJ isnt.


RJ was a top prospect too, maybe not as hyped up as Wiggins. Doesn’t really matter much after a few years in the league anyway.

The comparison is Wiggins thriving as a #3 type guy who does a little bit of everything on the right team. He’s blossoming at age 26/27. Basically learning how to play off the ball, pick his spots while staying aggressive, and doing other things. RJ has a different game but he can be that type of contributor on a winning team, easily.
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Post#544 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon May 23, 2022 7:13 pm

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I was telling Melo that there has to be more to it then Sarver Just being Cheap. He is not that cheap for such a young player if he was truly a stud. Ayton is def problematic somewhat


The Suns are like 1 million under the luxury tax. Sarver will always not want to pay that.

Nash, Marion, Amar'e

lets go of Joe Johnson

Chris Paul, Booker, Bridges

will let go of Ayton


Bruh he gave Bridges 90 MILLION.

NONE of those mentioned player even came close to a contract like that. So part of it to me is his behavior regarldess to waht he did over a decade ago.

He doesn’t pay his stars the money they deserve and rather be cheaper to pay role players instead. He literally signed Shamet to an extension before he even played a single game for them. He will sign a bunch of role players before it means paying up for a star. That’s literally what he did with Joe Johnson. He didn’t want to pay him and instead paid Boris Diaw and Marcus Banks.
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Post#545 » by TerrenceClarke » Mon May 23, 2022 7:16 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
TerrenceClarke wrote:
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The Suns are like 1 million under the luxury tax. Sarver will always not want to pay that.

Nash, Marion, Amar'e

lets go of Joe Johnson

Chris Paul, Booker, Bridges

will let go of Ayton


Bruh he gave Bridges 90 MILLION.

NONE of those mentioned player even came close to a contract like that. So part of it to me is his behavior regarldess to waht he did over a decade ago.

He doesn’t pay his stars the money they deserve and rather be cheaper to pay role players instead. He literally signed Shamet to an extension before he even played a single game for them. He will sign a bunch of role players before it means paying up for a star. That’s literally what he did with Joe Johnson. He didn’t want to pay him and instead paid Boris Diaw and Marcus Banks.


You Bias My G. I have to ignore you. You would have a million arguments why he should be on the squad. :lol:
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Post#546 » by TerrenceClarke » Mon May 23, 2022 7:17 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Wiggins making a huge impact. Easy to see RJ being able to do similiar things. Big wings with all around skills can be valuable. Mavs are missing that kind of player (besides Luka)



Umm....RJ is not in the same class as Wiggins I would not see them doing the same. Wiggins was an ELITE prospect....In retrospect RJ isnt.


RJ was a top prospect too, maybe not as hyped up as Wiggins. Doesn’t really matter much after a few years in the league anyway.

The comparison is Wiggins thriving as a #3 type guy who does a little bit of everything on the right team. He’s blossoming :o at age 26/27. Basically learning how to play off the ball, pick his spots while staying aggressive, and doing other things. RJ has a different game but he can be that type of contributor on a winning team, easily.



If wiggins had RJ atheltic ability he wouldn't be doing this is truly my point. He tapping into elite measurables. RJ won’t be. I think overall Wiggins impact will be much greater than what RJs would be.

Who is going to push RJ to number 3 role? :o
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Post#547 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon May 23, 2022 7:23 pm

TerrenceClarke wrote:
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Bruh he gave Bridges 90 MILLION.

NONE of those mentioned player even came close to a contract like that. So part of it to me is his behavior regarldess to waht he did over a decade ago.

He doesn’t pay his stars the money they deserve and rather be cheaper to pay role players instead. He literally signed Shamet to an extension before he even played a single game for them. He will sign a bunch of role players before it means paying up for a star. That’s literally what he did with Joe Johnson. He didn’t want to pay him and instead paid Boris Diaw and Marcus Banks.


You Bias My G. I have to ignore you. You would have a million arguments why he should be on the squad. :lol:

:lol: I’m speaking facts tho
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Post#548 » by TerrenceClarke » Mon May 23, 2022 7:26 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:He doesn’t pay his stars the money they deserve and rather be cheaper to pay role players instead. He literally signed Shamet to an extension before he even played a single game for them. He will sign a bunch of role players before it means paying up for a star. That’s literally what he did with Joe Johnson. He didn’t want to pay him and instead paid Boris Diaw and Marcus Banks.


You Bias My G. I have to ignore you. You would have a million arguments why he should be on the squad. :lol:

:lol: I’m speaking facts tho



There is flags my G. You don’t bench studs in critical close out games unless there is issues there. If this wasn’t ayton you would be leery as well don’t front l.
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Post#549 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon May 23, 2022 7:31 pm

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You Bias My G. I have to ignore you. You would have a million arguments why he should be on the squad. :lol:

:lol: I’m speaking facts tho



There is flags my G. You don’t bench studs in critical close out games unless there is issues there. If this wasn’t ayton you would be leery as well don’t front l.

There’s footage of him on the bench that game saying they not passing the ball to him. I’d be mad too if you had a mis match and you kept calling for the ball and they ignore you every time
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Post#550 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon May 23, 2022 7:32 pm

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Umm....RJ is not in the same class as Wiggins I would not see them doing the same. Wiggins was an ELITE prospect....In retrospect RJ isnt.


RJ was a top prospect too, maybe not as hyped up as Wiggins. Doesn’t really matter much after a few years in the league anyway.

The comparison is Wiggins thriving as a #3 type guy who does a little bit of everything on the right team. He’s blossoming at age 26/27. Basically learning how to play off the ball, pick his spots while staying aggressive, and doing other things. RJ has a different game but he can be that type of contributor on a winning team, easily.


If wiggins had RJ atheltic ability he wouldn't be doing this is truly my point. He tapping into elite measurables. RJ won’t be


RJ doesn’t have his hops, but he has some other aspects that allows him to get to the rim so much. Put him on GS for a few years with that spacing and ball movement and he would thrive too. His percentages would def go up.
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Post#551 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon May 23, 2022 7:35 pm

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RJ was a top prospect too, maybe not as hyped up as Wiggins. Doesn’t really matter much after a few years in the league anyway.

The comparison is Wiggins thriving as a #3 type guy who does a little bit of everything on the right team. He’s blossoming at age 26/27. Basically learning how to play off the ball, pick his spots while staying aggressive, and doing other things. RJ has a different game but he can be that type of contributor on a winning team, easily.


If wiggins had RJ atheltic ability he wouldn't be doing this is truly my point. He tapping into elite measurables. RJ won’t be


RJ doesn’t have his hops, but he has some other aspects that allows him to get to the rim so much. Put him on GS for a few years with that spacing and ball movement and he would thrive too. His percentages would def go up.

You can say that for every player in the NBA though.
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Post#552 » by TerrenceClarke » Mon May 23, 2022 7:41 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote: :lol: I’m speaking facts tho



There is flags my G. You don’t bench studs in critical close out games unless there is issues there. If this wasn’t ayton you would be leery as well don’t front l.

There’s footage of him on the bench that game saying they not passing the ball to him. I’d be mad too if you had a mis match and you kept calling for the ball and they ignore you every time


What truly dominate Big man With no issues teammates don’t pass him the ball I never seen that before IJS .coaches and players make sure they get the rock.

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Post#553 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon May 23, 2022 7:49 pm

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If wiggins had RJ atheltic ability he wouldn't be doing this is truly my point. He tapping into elite measurables. RJ won’t be


RJ doesn’t have his hops, but he has some other aspects that allows him to get to the rim so much. Put him on GS for a few years with that spacing and ball movement and he would thrive too. His percentages would def go up.

You can say that for every player in the NBA though.


Yea that’s what I have been saying in all those RJ debates that his percentages can go up

For RJ, he is basically a star with enough of an efficiency boost
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Post#554 » by Chanel Bomber » Mon May 23, 2022 7:54 pm

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RJ doesn’t have his hops, but he has some other aspects that allows him to get to the rim so much. Put him on GS for a few years with that spacing and ball movement and he would thrive too. His percentages would def go up.

You can say that for every player in the NBA though.


Yea that’s what I have been saying in all those RJ debates that his percentages can go up

For RJ, he is basically a star with enough of an efficiency boost

And that's also something you can say about a lot of NBA players.

Dion Waiters would have been a star with enough of an efficiency boost. That doesn't say much.

Every player in the NBA would see their percentages go up playing with Curry and Klay. It's not unique or rare.
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Post#555 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon May 23, 2022 7:57 pm

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There is flags my G. You don’t bench studs in critical close out games unless there is issues there. If this wasn’t ayton you would be leery as well don’t front l.

There’s footage of him on the bench that game saying they not passing the ball to him. I’d be mad too if you had a mis match and you kept calling for the ball and they ignore you every time


What truly dominate Big man With no issues teammates don’t pass him the ball I never seen that before IJS .coaches and players make sure they get the rock.

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Watch the games bro. Too many times he has his man sealed in the post calling for the ball and you have guys like Crowder, Payne, Bridges chucking up contested shots instead. Look at the numbers..

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That’s malpractice. I’m not the only one here who said this.

In fact Monty even said that like two months ago Ayton texted Him and said he wants them to feed him more.

After Friday’s loss, Williams received a text from Ayton, who scored 16 points on 8-of-11 shooting against the Raptors, but once again came up short on the glass with just seven rebounds.

“It wasn’t selfish, it wasn’t like, ‘I want more points,’” Williams said. “He was like, ‘Coach, I can dominate down there. I think we need to look at me more’ and I texted him back and said, ‘You’re right.’ I also said, we’ve got to do this, this, this as a coach."

Williams has a wide open door policy, but also knew Ayton doesn’t just reach out to him for the sake of doing it.

“DA doesn’t make those kind of statements so he can score more or get more points,” Williams said. “He’s just like, look, ‘Coach, I can do work down there.’ As a coach, you have to take that and understand. I’ve been around him long enough to know his intentions, and he backed it up.”

Missing only three shots from the field, Ayton posted a dominant double-double of 23 points and a game-high 16 rebounds in 27 minutes

Monty’s offense is mostly guard oriented. That’s his biggest flaw. You have someone who put up 17/10 in his sleep but you still won’t involve him in the offense consistently?
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Post#556 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon May 23, 2022 8:05 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:You can say that for every player in the NBA though.


Yea that’s what I have been saying in all those RJ debates that his percentages can go up

For RJ, he is basically a star with enough of an efficiency boost

And that's also something you can say about a lot of NBA players.

Dion Waiters would have been a star with enough of an efficiency boost. That doesn't say much.

Every player in the NBA would see their percentages go up playing with Curry and Klay. It's not unique or rare.


Not everyone can be as good as Wiggins though and give that type of production. No way Waiters could do what Wiggins is doing especially from a size perspective. He wasnt on that level and couldn’t play the way the warriors play. Imo, RJ could become something like that pretty easily. Not saying it’s rare or unique, but simply something that’s valuable and very helpful.
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Post#557 » by TerrenceClarke » Mon May 23, 2022 8:07 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
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RJ was a top prospect too, maybe not as hyped up as Wiggins. Doesn’t really matter much after a few years in the league anyway.

The comparison is Wiggins thriving as a #3 type guy who does a little bit of everything on the right team. He’s blossoming at age 26/27. Basically learning how to play off the ball, pick his spots while staying aggressive, and doing other things. RJ has a different game but he can be that type of contributor on a winning team, easily.


If wiggins had RJ atheltic ability he wouldn't be doing this is truly my point. He tapping into elite measurables. RJ won’t be


RJ doesn’t have his hops, but he has some other aspects that allows him to get to the rim so much. Put him on GS for a few years with that spacing and ball movement and he would thrive too. His percentages would def go up.


The issue I have is that RJ is do for a contract situation soon. You basically saying he a number 3, so we going to max him will we wait for #1 & 2?

If his best role is to be a number 3 then we fucccccked for sure.
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Post#558 » by spree2kawhi » Mon May 23, 2022 8:14 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
TerrenceClarke wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:Wiggins making a huge impact. Easy to see RJ being able to do similiar things. Big wings with all around skills can be valuable. Mavs are missing that kind of player (besides Luka)



Umm....RJ is not in the same class as Wiggins I would not see them doing the same. Wiggins was an ELITE prospect....In retrospect RJ isnt.


RJ was a top prospect too, maybe not as hyped up as Wiggins. Doesn’t really matter much after a few years in the league anyway.

The comparison is Wiggins thriving as a #3 type guy who does a little bit of everything on the right team. He’s blossoming at age 26/27. Basically learning how to play off the ball, pick his spots while staying aggressive, and doing other things. RJ has a different game but he can be that type of contributor on a winning team, easily.

Nice, so we’ve got our fourth option down. Let’s rock!
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Post#559 » by spree2kawhi » Mon May 23, 2022 8:20 pm

duetta wrote:Durant gave this all up to be cool in Brooklyn.

This will look so bad once it becomes a reality.
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Post#560 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon May 23, 2022 8:23 pm

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If wiggins had RJ atheltic ability he wouldn't be doing this is truly my point. He tapping into elite measurables. RJ won’t be


RJ doesn’t have his hops, but he has some other aspects that allows him to get to the rim so much. Put him on GS for a few years with that spacing and ball movement and he would thrive too. His percentages would def go up.


The issue I have is that RJ is do for a contract situation soon. You basically saying he a number 3, so we going to max him will we wait for #1 & 2?

If his best role is to be a number 3 then we fucccccked for sure.


We got another year, so I would see what happens. But yea, we are probably fcked :lol:

We all know we need a legit #1 and they aren’t easy to find. Just saying, hypothetically RJ could pair well next to that guy if we ever build a good team.
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