2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[RHODEY]

Knicks Trade: Fournier, Jeffries, Detroit 24 1st, Detroit 24 2nd Detroit 26 2nd

Detroit Trade: Bojan Bogdonovic

I think Bojan would be perfect for this team as the small ball 4 off the bench. This is a trade at the All Star break that can have as big of an impact if not more than getting Hart last season. Put him as the secondary playmaker off of IQ with Dante, Hart and I-Hart. That might be the most fun lineup you see in the NBA this season.

Of course I understand this might not be even close to enough to get him but with Detroit in the tank for another season and looking to grow, it might be worth more to them to get control back of their assets for the future.

There's literally not enough minutes for Bojan.

I think there is. I’d rather cut our starters minutes and give them to Boj so they’re fresh and not as banged up for the PO.

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[sol537]

Knicks Trade: Fournier, Jeffries, Detroit 24 1st, Detroit 24 2nd Detroit 26 2nd

Detroit Trade: Bojan Bogdonovic

I think Bojan would be perfect for this team as the small ball 4 off the bench. This is a trade at the All Star break that can have as big of an impact if not more than getting Hart last season. Put him as the secondary playmaker off of IQ with Dante, Hart and I-Hart. That might be the most fun lineup you see in the NBA this season.

Of course I understand this might not be even close to enough to get him but with Detroit in the tank for another season and looking to grow, it might be worth more to them to get control back of their assets for the future.

There's literally not enough minutes for Bojan.

Honestly, I would move Donte into the starting lineup and give Bojan all of Grimes' minutes. I like Grimes and think he can be a great player once he fully develops but if they want to really go for it, he would need to take a backseat this season.
Starters
Brunson
Donte
RJ
Randle
Mitch

Bench
IQ
RJ
Hart
Bojan
I-Hart

Closers
Brunson
IQ
RJ
Randle
Mitch

Going for Bojan or Gallo makes a ton of sense. Taking Grimes out of the rotation does not. Grimes is our best defender by far and DDV pales in comparison. Grimes slows the opponents’s best player down just enough that we can squeeze out wins. DDV means we gotta try to win with offense and that’s not how we’re built.

[spree8]

There's literally not enough minutes for Bojan.

I think there is. I’d rather cut our starters minutes and give them to Boj so they’re fresh and not as banged up for the PO.

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Yea I agree with that dude about not giving up a 1st. We did them a huge favor getting them Duren while they took expirings in return to help us sign Jalen… still lopsided. They owe us to not over charge… I’d give them a bunch of 2nd rounders along with Fournier’s expiring at most. Cash too if that helps their owner.

[Polk377]

There's literally not enough minutes for Bojan.

I think there is. I’d rather cut our starters minutes and give them to Boj so they’re fresh and not as banged up for the PO.

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[Polk377]

I think there is. I’d rather cut our starters minutes and give them to Boj so they’re fresh and not as banged up for the PO.

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Yea I agree with that dude about not giving up a 1st. We did them a huge favor getting them Duren while they took expirings in return to help us sign Jalen… still lopsided. They owe us to not over charge… I’d give them a bunch of 2nd rounders along with Fournier’s expiring at most. Cash too if that helps their owner.

They did us a favor twice by taking our bad contracts so we could sign Brunson and others. Don't get it twisted. No one else was taking Burks, Kemba and Noel off of our hands.

[ohboy109]

I would rather watch Randle go 3-16 in the playoffs than to trade for 2 guys way past their prime and looking very mid currently.

Stay off the Randle juice

[Polk377]

There's literally not enough minutes for Bojan.

Honestly, I would move Donte into the starting lineup and give Bojan all of Grimes' minutes. I like Grimes and think he can be a great player once he fully develops but if they want to really go for it, he would need to take a backseat this season.
Starters
Brunson
Donte
RJ
Randle
Mitch

Bench
IQ
RJ
Hart
Bojan
I-Hart

Closers
Brunson
IQ
RJ
Randle
Mitch

Going for Bojan or Gallo makes a ton of sense. Taking Grimes out of the rotation does not. Grimes is our best defender by far and DDV pales in comparison. Grimes slows the opponents’s best player down just enough that we can squeeze out wins. DDV means we gotta try to win with offense and that’s not how we’re built.

The drop off in defense between Grimes and Donte isn't as dramatic as you think. Grimes just doesn't have the aggressiveness on the offensive side of the ball we need sometimes when things get stagnant. Donte will make things happen. Bojan is the same kind of player the bench unit needs. I wouldn't be against going to a 10 man lineup and just reducing some of the starter minutes either so we have 2 true lineups with thr ability to stager when needed.

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Yea I agree with that dude about not giving up a 1st. We did them a huge favor getting them Duren while they took expirings in return to help us sign Jalen… still lopsided. They owe us to not over charge… I’d give them a bunch of 2nd rounders along with Fournier’s expiring at most. Cash too if that helps their owner.

They did us a favor twice by taking our bad contracts so we could sign Brunson and others. Don't get it twisted. No one else was taking Burks, Kemba and Noel off of our hands.

You don’t know that lol. Look at history, how often has it cost a team a prospect the caliber of Jalen Duren to get off expiring contracts? Getting it twisted is overlooking landing a player of his caliber for the price they did. Typically expiring contracts actually have value, but because Leon screwed up, he had to dump them to sign Brunson. If you can’t see that as a lopsided affair, I dunno what to tell you, but almost everyone here at the time did and it’s even worse looking back now considering how good Duren has performed to this point.

[HopelessKnick]

The Bojan for Fournier + Detroit's FRP is actually one of the rare trades that does make some sense for both sides. I don't know why Detroit would want to hold on to Bojan at this point....does not seem to make much sense....getting their FRP back probably is smarter than holding on to him in a meaningless season.

Still, the Knicks would still need to trade for a premium 3 and D guy to slow opposing wings like Tatum, Brown, Butler, Middleton etc. down. Without that ingredient I don't see how the Knicks can have any serious chance at making the ECF, let alone going all the way.

[RHODEY]

The Bojan for Fournier + Detroit's FRP is actually one of the rare trades that does make some sense for both sides. I don't know why Detroit would want to hold on to Bojan at this point....does not seem to make much sense....getting their FRP back probably is smarter than holding on to him in a meaningless season.

Still, the Knicks would still need to trade for a premium 3 and D guy to slow opposing wings like Tatum, Brown, Butler, Middleton etc. down. Without that ingredient I don't see how the Knicks can have any serious chance at making the ECF, let alone going all the way.

It's more of a low cost move to keep us competitive before making the BIG move. As such I think it works. Other players I like in this role are Dorian Finney Smith (unlikely because Nets), Jonathan Isaac, and Gordon Hayward.

[HopelessKnick]

The Bojan for Fournier + Detroit's FRP is actually one of the rare trades that does make some sense for both sides. I don't know why Detroit would want to hold on to Bojan at this point....does not seem to make much sense....getting their FRP back probably is smarter than holding on to him in a meaningless season.

Still, the Knicks would still need to trade for a premium 3 and D guy to slow opposing wings like Tatum, Brown, Butler, Middleton etc. down. Without that ingredient I don't see how the Knicks can have any serious chance at making the ECF, let alone going all the way.

It's more of a low cost move to keep us competitive before making the BIG move. As such I think it works. Other players I like in this role are Dorian Finney Smith (unlikely because Nets), Jonathan Isaac, and Gordon Hayward.

Dorian Finney Smith I like a lot as well but like you said unlikely. He'd actually be a most perfect fit with Brunson-RJ-Randle as he is fine defending and shooting only open 3s. He can guard 2-4.

Gordon Hayward is too old IMO and too injury prone..I'd stay away from him....is he any good defensively?

Looking around the league I feel like getting a true 3 and D guy that is truly good is near impossible...even if you were willing to pay higher prices.....teams simply tend to hang on to such players....

[sol537]

I’m hoping we do a Fournier + Dallas 1st for Isaac. He’s got one more year on his deal and if he stays healthy he could either be a iHart or Randle replacement if we go in a different direction from either of those guys.

[RHODEY]

The Bojan for Fournier + Detroit's FRP is actually one of the rare trades that does make some sense for both sides. I don't know why Detroit would want to hold on to Bojan at this point....does not seem to make much sense....getting their FRP back probably is smarter than holding on to him in a meaningless season.

Still, the Knicks would still need to trade for a premium 3 and D guy to slow opposing wings like Tatum, Brown, Butler, Middleton etc. down. Without that ingredient I don't see how the Knicks can have any serious chance at making the ECF, let alone going all the way.

It's more of a low cost move to keep us competitive before making the BIG move. As such I think it works. Other players I like in this role are Dorian Finney Smith (unlikely because Nets), Jonathan Isaac, and Gordon Hayward.

Dorian Finney Smith I like a lot as well but like you said unlikely. He'd actually be a most perfect fit with Brunson-RJ-Randle as he is fine defending and shooting only open 3s. He can guard 2-4.

Gordon Hayward is too old IMO and too injury prone..I'd stay away from him....is he any good defensively?

Looking around the league I feel like getting a true 3 and D guy that is truly good is near impossible...even if you were willing to pay higher prices.....teams simply tend to hang on to such players....

If Gordon was prime levels we wouldnt have a shot. That said when healthy he can still ball...and yes that includes defense.

[Snacks]

I’m hoping we do a Fournier + Dallas 1st for Isaac. He’s got one more year on his deal and if he stays healthy he could either be a iHart or Randle replacement if we go in a different direction from either of those guys.

My questions about Isaac don't only revolve around his health - but about how much of a distraction his political stances will be in the locker room. For now he plays in Orlando and he hardly plays- but will he be poison in the NY media market.

[nykballa2k4]

There's literally not enough minutes for Bojan.

I think there is. I’d rather cut our starters minutes and give them to Boj so they’re fresh and not as banged up for the PO.

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Bogdanovic and lethal should not be in the same sentence. He's be a nice piece, and defensive-wise he wouldn't be much of a drop from what Toppin was, but it would all depend on the price.

[RHODEY]

I think there is. I’d rather cut our starters minutes and give them to Boj so they’re fresh and not as banged up for the PO.

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Bogdanovic and lethal should not be in the same sentence. He's be a nice piece, and defensive-wise he wouldn't be much of a drop from what Toppin was, but it would all depend on the price.

You are aware that he is a near 40% three point shooter for his entire career?

[nykballa2k4]

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Bogdanovic and lethal should not be in the same sentence. He's be a nice piece, and defensive-wise he wouldn't be much of a drop from what Toppin was, but it would all depend on the price.

You are aware that he is a near 40% three point shooter for his entire career?

What are his numbers this season?

As you get older, legs begin to fade. Coming back from injury, his legs are going to be behind. Out of shape legs = impaired shooting.

I also would reserve those titles for guys like Steph, Klay in his prime etc who were game-breakers. Reggie Miller, Ray Allen etc. That's just me though.

[RHODEY]

Bogdanovic and lethal should not be in the same sentence. He's be a nice piece, and defensive-wise he wouldn't be much of a drop from what Toppin was, but it would all depend on the price.

You are aware that he is a near 40% three point shooter for his entire career?

What are his numbers this season?

As you get older, legs begin to fade. Coming back from injury, his legs are going to be behind. Out of shape legs = impaired shooting.

I also would reserve those titles for guys like Steph, Klay in his prime etc who were game-breakers. Reggie Miller, Ray Allen etc. That's just me though.

Near 40 percent for a career is lethal to me, I'm not going to nit pick because he's not Curry.

[thebuzzardman]

I think there is. I’d rather cut our starters minutes and give them to Boj so they’re fresh and not as banged up for the PO.

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[RHODEY]

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This has been a thing since last season

I'm not trusting some guy in a cap that shouts at you in a video

Pretend it was Tobias wearing that cap.