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Re: PG: Natural Born Killas 

Post#541 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu May 9, 2024 1:15 pm

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Wildcat wrote:Mitch, Josh, and Grimes made comments on their role on the team. IQ (well, IQ's dad or mom) also made comments. Obi wasn't as toxic as some of you guys are making him out to be.

Those guys never went to the toxic extent Obi did. And keep in mind, Obi did this during the PLAYOFFS. Making it about him in the playoffs instead of being a team player is extremely selfish.
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It's a bad look, but let's not act like this stuff isn't common in the locker room. Especially with frustrations as high as they were in the Miami series. The only thing that's bad about this is some clown standing outside the locker room recording it.

It's pretty likely he's been acting like that towards Thibs for a while since they literally sent him packing for picks just to get rid of him. That's a big indication he's a very toxic player. Anyways Im glad we got rid of his no defense playing ass. Love to see him rot on the bench in the 4th quarter while our very own back up PF Precious had a big 2 way impact to win us the game. Knicks made the right decision and it continues to pay off.

Just look at the different mindset that Precious has compared to Obi. This is our winning culture and Obi doesn't fit in it.
With Robinson out for the playoffs with a stress-reaction injury to his ankle, and OG Anunoby suffering a hamstring injury in the third quarter, Achiuwa delivered another strong game in their absence with eight points and five rebounds in 28 minutes off the bench — including a key dunk late in the fourth quarter of the Knicks’ 130-121 comeback victory in Game 2 against the Pacers.

“It just goes to show you it’s a bunch of dogs on the team,” Achiuwa said afterward. “Guys were locked in, ready to come in and play their parts for the most part.
“There’s a lot of guys that love to win on the team, so you can’t ask for nothing more than that. Once you have a bunch of guys that enjoy winning, and are willing to do whatever it takes to win a basketball game, you can go far with that.”
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Re: PG: Natural Born Killas 

Post#542 » by Juco24 » Thu May 9, 2024 1:15 pm

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Fury wrote:I don't care how you felt about Obi when he was here. But he's not on this team anymore and he was annoying as **** yesterday. Enough of this Obi ****, he's an opponent. Screw him.

The slurping of Obi in the middle of a heated series is super weird behavior. Especially when our own backup PF had a huge impact to win us the game. Really hate seeing folks underappreciate our own players that are winning us playoff games to stan ex Knicks bums that can't even get on the court in the 4th quarter.


Everyone knows I was a huge Obi supporter WHEN he was wearing the orange & blue. But, he's not with the Knicks anymore... I cheer for the front of the jersey not the back! Honestly, I want him to miss every shot against us and every other Knicks fan should too. Save that ish when he plays somebody else
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Re: PG: Natural Born Killas 

Post#543 » by Wildcat » Thu May 9, 2024 1:19 pm

Red Vines wrote:You can live with Obi scoring because everyone else is getting iced, teammates start standing around & watching because he has tunnel vision.


Obi isn't icing anybody.
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Post#544 » by Knicks Byke » Thu May 9, 2024 1:20 pm

any news on OG?
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Re: PG: Natural Born Killas 

Post#545 » by Adelheid » Thu May 9, 2024 1:23 pm

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There was a time, in the days of yore, when Scotting Sterling and Elgin Baylor ruled the Clippers, where they sucked every bit as much as the Knicks ever did, for nearly as long. It was a LONG time, however long it was.

I can't remember what happened once they started to turn it around.

I don't remember it as being "LOL, Clippers still suck", like it is with the Knicks, but that might be because I was looking at the situation objectively, as opposed to whatever this BS is that happens with the Knicks.


Flicking the dicks of hicks for clicks with anti-Knicks still a thing, I guess.


with other franchises (that suck), other fanbases would just say "yeah well, they can be contenders once they caught lightning in a bottle" and empathize...but the vitriol that the knicks get are simply on a different level; you can feel its genuine hatred


if i were on the outside looking in, i might be annoyed by the obnoxious nature of our public representation. we wild tf out. i love our maniacs, but i get why others wouldn't, i guess.

and clippers still get that hate/recognition of lack of accomplishment, but no one really cares enough about them to amplify it.


ok, so knicks fans are wild, but so are the fanbase of other teams. They are not different from each other when it comes to being obnoxious. Its just that the NY fanbase has a larger span and is scattered across the country; nothing they can do about that
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Re: PG: Natural Born Killas 

Post#546 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu May 9, 2024 1:26 pm

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Re: PG: Natural Born Killas 

Post#547 » by Fury » Thu May 9, 2024 1:33 pm

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with other franchises (that suck), other fanbases would just say "yeah well, they can be contenders once they caught lightning in a bottle" and empathize...but the vitriol that the knicks get are simply on a different level; you can feel its genuine hatred


if i were on the outside looking in, i might be annoyed by the obnoxious nature of our public representation. we wild tf out. i love our maniacs, but i get why others wouldn't, i guess.

and clippers still get that hate/recognition of lack of accomplishment, but no one really cares enough about them to amplify it.


ok, so knicks fans are wild, but so are the fanbase of other teams. They are not different from each other when it comes to being obnoxious. Its just that the NY fanbase has a larger span and is scattered across the country; nothing they can do about that


I haven't seen one fanbase online that isn't annoying af.
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Post#548 » by EnigmatiC » Thu May 9, 2024 1:33 pm

Hate to say it but it feels like we won the battle but maybe lost the war. I don't know how this team continues without OG.
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Post#549 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu May 9, 2024 1:35 pm

Donte making me eat crow these past 3 games. Keep it up!
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Post#550 » by Juco24 » Thu May 9, 2024 1:40 pm

EnigmatiC wrote:Hate to say it but it feels like we won the battle but maybe lost the war. I don't know how this team continues without OG.


Driving into work this morning... I feel the same way! Not giving up, but also being realistic. Not saying what could have been... but am saying what could be with a squad 100% healthy. OG just does so much when he's on the court.
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Post#551 » by duetta » Thu May 9, 2024 1:53 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:The slurping of Obi in the middle of a heated series is super weird behavior. Especially when our own backup PF had a huge impact to win us the game. Really hate seeing folks underappreciate our own players that are winning us playoff games to stan ex Knicks bums that can't even get on the court in the 4th quarter.


But you're perpetually slurping Donovan Mitchell and he's never played for us.
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Post#552 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu May 9, 2024 1:56 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:The slurping of Obi in the middle of a heated series is super weird behavior. Especially when our own backup PF had a huge impact to win us the game. Really hate seeing folks underappreciate our own players that are winning us playoff games to stan ex Knicks bums that can't even get on the court in the 4th quarter.


But you're perpetually slurping Donovan Mitchell and he's never played for us.

Are we playing against Donovan Mitchell in the playoffs right now? And that was pretty random since no one is even talking about him in this thread. You out here stanning our opponents in the middle of a series. That's weird behavior.
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Post#553 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu May 9, 2024 1:56 pm

Josh Hart is a star in an unconventional way.

He reminds me of players like Rondo, Rodman, Draymond... The ODBs of the NBA. Unpredictable and abnormal, yet undoubtedly impactful.
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Post#554 » by Wildcat » Thu May 9, 2024 1:56 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Those guys never went to the toxic extent Obi did. And keep in mind, Obi did this during the PLAYOFFS. Making it about him in the playoffs instead of being a team player is extremely selfish.
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It's a bad look, but let's not act like this stuff isn't common in the locker room. Especially with frustrations as high as they were in the Miami series. The only thing that's bad about this is some clown standing outside the locker room recording it.

It's pretty likely he's been acting like that towards Thibs for a while since they literally sent him packing for picks just to get rid of him. That's a big indication he's a very toxic player. Anyways Im glad we got rid of his no defense playing ass. Love to see him rot on the bench in the 4th quarter while our very own back up PF Precious had a big 2 way impact to win us the game. Knicks made the right decision and it continues to pay off.

Just look at the different mindset that Precious has compared to Obi. This is our winning culture and Obi doesn't fit in it.
With Robinson out for the playoffs with a stress-reaction injury to his ankle, and OG Anunoby suffering a hamstring injury in the third quarter, Achiuwa delivered another strong game in their absence with eight points and five rebounds in 28 minutes off the bench — including a key dunk late in the fourth quarter of the Knicks’ 130-121 comeback victory in Game 2 against the Pacers.

“It just goes to show you it’s a bunch of dogs on the team,” Achiuwa said afterward. “Guys were locked in, ready to come in and play their parts for the most part.
“There’s a lot of guys that love to win on the team, so you can’t ask for nothing more than that. Once you have a bunch of guys that enjoy winning, and are willing to do whatever it takes to win a basketball game, you can go far with that.”


I'm not advocating one over the other. Whoever is better for their role here, all good. But you're taking an incident and framing it as toxicity. Hell, shows me a passion for wanting to beat Miami.
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Post#555 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu May 9, 2024 1:58 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:Those guys never went to the toxic extent Obi did. And keep in mind, Obi did this during the PLAYOFFS. Making it about him in the playoffs instead of being a team player is extremely selfish.
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It's a bad look, but let's not act like this stuff isn't common in the locker room. Especially with frustrations as high as they were in the Miami series. The only thing that's bad about this is some clown standing outside the locker room recording it.

It's pretty likely he's been acting like that towards Thibs for a while since they literally sent him packing for picks just to get rid of him. That's a big indication he's a very toxic player. Anyways Im glad we got rid of his no defense playing ass. Love to see him rot on the bench in the 4th quarter while our very own back up PF Precious had a big 2 way impact to win us the game. Knicks made the right decision and it continues to pay off.

Just look at the different mindset that Precious has compared to Obi. This is our winning culture and Obi doesn't fit in it.
With Robinson out for the playoffs with a stress-reaction injury to his ankle, and OG Anunoby suffering a hamstring injury in the third quarter, Achiuwa delivered another strong game in their absence with eight points and five rebounds in 28 minutes off the bench — including a key dunk late in the fourth quarter of the Knicks’ 130-121 comeback victory in Game 2 against the Pacers.

“It just goes to show you it’s a bunch of dogs on the team,” Achiuwa said afterward. “Guys were locked in, ready to come in and play their parts for the most part.
“There’s a lot of guys that love to win on the team, so you can’t ask for nothing more than that. Once you have a bunch of guys that enjoy winning, and are willing to do whatever it takes to win a basketball game, you can go far with that.”

Obi dug his own grave here.

Too many people around him including Knicks fans whispered in his ear that he should start ahead of an All-Star here.

It got to his head, hence his going at Thibs like that.

It was unacceptable and the Knicks had to cut him loose.

He's still a good back-up but I'm glad the organization sided with Thibs here, it was the right move.
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Post#556 » by Im Coming Home » Thu May 9, 2024 2:00 pm

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Im Coming Home wrote:I mean.. he's a good spark plug off the bench big that shoots 40% from 3, and hes seemed to have gotten a little bit better in other areas of the game too(but not defense)he'd certainly be nice to have on the Knicks right now and even in the regular season once Randle went down..

You overreacting and acting like people are actively cheering for the Pacers just for pointing out that it may have been stupid to let Obi go for 2 2nd round picks, is just silly.


Wanting to keep the guy who cussed out our coach and can't play defense - that's silly.

Yeah Obi literally made his death bed by disrespecting our coach. And his defense is so bad he’s still getting benched in the 4th quarter.

Glad we replaced him with someone who plays on both ends.
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Post#557 » by GONYK » Thu May 9, 2024 2:20 pm

F*ck Obi :lol:

There's no love between those lines right now
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Post#558 » by louisorr » Thu May 9, 2024 2:21 pm

Knicks should send in the VHS tapes of those 1985 Celtics. If I remember correctly they got all the calls.
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Post#559 » by nedleeds » Thu May 9, 2024 2:24 pm

Red Vines wrote:You can live with Obi scoring because everyone else is getting iced, teammates start standing around & watching because he has tunnel vision.

He's scoring like crazy in transition because we have no bench and our starters are gassed playing 48 minutes for the mad **** orc Thibs.

Game 1 Hart 48 minutes, Game 2 Hart 48 minutes

44, 44, 42 minutes for ddv, og and brunson game 1

Only, predictably getting injured saved OG and Brunson from Thibs butchering in game 2. Literally only injury will force this idiot into not killing his best players.
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Post#560 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu May 9, 2024 2:36 pm

Man, this was just a great article

https://theathletic.com/5481506/2024/05/09/knicks-brunson-win-game-2-pacers/

Surrounded by 20,000 people, Jalen Brunson was all alone.

The New York Knicks point guard jogged out from the tunnel as if it were a wormhole. He was early, the first of his teammates to return to the court for the second half of a tight game against the Indiana Pacers. But at the same time, Brunson was late. The fans watching him had awaited his arrival for long enough that Madison Square Garden was tense.

Brunson departed Wednesday’s game near the end of the first quarter because of a foot injury. The building immediately lost its verve. The Knicks’ top player, the man who had just finished fifth in MVP voting earlier that evening, had mysteriously vanished, questionable to return with an ambiguous injury: right foot soreness.

In one moment, the gusto came back. If you could not see Brunson’s emergence from the tunnel, you would have heard it.

He jogged out unperturbed with minutes to go until the start of the third quarter and walked onto the court as the crowd offered a standing ovation, which he did not acknowledge. He strolled to the free-throw line, where Josh Hart greeted him for a second and then let him be.

Brunson had work to do.

From then on, Brunson was by himself. He tested out free throws, stepbacks in the midrange, 3-pointers off the dribble, drives and then back to 3s. Chants of “MVP!” roared from the stands. Brunson, as he often carries himself, appeared unaffected.

“It was really cool to hear,” Brunson said. “But I just knew I had to get my mind in the right place to figure out how I was going to attack the second half.”

Until that moment, it wasn’t clear if Brunson would play again. The All-Star guard had asked out of the game with three and a half minutes to go in the first quarter, an out-of-character move. He said he’s not sure on which play the injury occurred. But he must have been in pain.

“Once I went on the court I was going to give it a go, no matter what,” Brunson said.

With each jumper that he rehearsed, an even more extreme sentiment became obvious. Not only would Brunson play, but there was no chance he would exit again.

Brunson ran for the entire second half on an injured foot, going for 24 points just in the third and fourth quarters, and leading the Knicks to a 130-121 victory in Game 2 of their second-round playoff series against Indiana. It now leads the series 2-0.

“He’s a warrior,” Hart said. “We know he wants to be out there. It was great for him to be out there, great for him to finish the game. Hopefully, he’s not too sore tomorrow. But this team has fight. That’s what we’re built off of.”

This is the identity of the Knicks. They are filled with Kool-Aid men — players who burst through walls and are built to take a punch.

They lose Mitchell Robinson for the postseason, as the team announced Tuesday night, and Precious Achiuwa steps in. OG Anunoby hurts a hamstring, as he did on Wednesday, an injury that occurred during arguably his best game since coming to New York more than four months ago, and Hart or Donte DiVincenzo fill the void.

Hart never sits. He’s the first player to go two consecutive playoff games without subbing out since Jimmy Butler in 2013, a situation without any obvious common denominators.

Most importantly, they climbed on the back of Brunson, who finished with 29 points and five assists.

“When he’s out there, there’s a level of calmness,” DiVincenzo said. “We’ll get the right shot every single time. There’s a level of confidence from everybody that we have him on the court with us. Everybody can settle down and play their own game.”

It shows.

The Knicks could have lost this game and shrugged their shoulders afterward.

Brunson missed more than a quarter, as did Anunoby. They didn’t receive much from the bench. Achiuwa improved his defensive performance in the fourth quarter but struggled early. Miles “Deuce” McBride took over as the primary facilitator with Brunson out but could not get the offense going.

But this is what separates a merely solid team from one that places itself only two wins away from the Eastern Conference finals. Sometimes, you have to win the games you’re not supposed to win.

Sometimes, Brunson goes down, but Anunoby takes over in his stead. The 26-year-old had throttled to 28 points before limping to the locker room in the third quarter, holding his left hamstring. Head coach Tom Thibodeau said after the game that he did not have an update on the forward’s status.

Sometimes, a defense traps Brunson, as the Pacers did in the second half, even when it wasn’t clear if he could move at 100 percent capabilities, and the point guard gives up the ball for others to make plays. That’s when Isaiah Hartenstein — who finished with 14 points, 12 rebounds and eight assists — whipped passes to shooters and cutters. It’s when DiVincenzo — who finished with 28 points, six rebounds and four assists on 6-of-12 3-point shooting — drained jumpers because Indiana’s defenders strayed from him on the arc.

Sometimes, a team has Julius Randle, Bojan Bogdanović and Robinson out for the postseason, then fights through a game where Brunson and Anunoby both miss significant time. In those moments, bench help isn’t as important because Hart — who finished with 19 points, 15 rebounds and seven assists — needs to go to the nearest hospital so doctors can study how he acquires limitless energy.

Sometimes, the basketball gods, even as they rip apart a team with injury after injury, also sprinkle in a blessing. Brunson’s return came on the 54th anniversary of Willis Reed’s.

Brunson just scored 40-plus points in four consecutive playoff games. The night the streak snapped was one when he pulled his own Reed.

Sometimes, if it goes on for long enough, a run becomes special.

“There was no doubt in our minds that he’d be back,” DiVincenzo said. “All season long no matter what is thrown at him, injury bug or whatever, he always bounces back.”

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