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Breaking: KAT to the Knicks

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#541 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:05 am

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Picturing maxey and embiid putting KAT in PnR d in the final mins of a playoff game. Yuck

I’m already seeing Celtics fans on Twitter celebrating how they’re gonna destroy us in the pick and roll.

And now we can destroy them right back :D

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#543 » by mpharris36 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:07 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:I’m already seeing Celtics fans on Twitter celebrating how they’re gonna destroy us in the pick and roll.


on the opposite side of the spectrum KP and Embiid certainly don't want to be hanging out guarding KAT at the 3 pt line.

KAT had his worst game of this year against KP
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a one game sample size?

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kat-vs-porzingis

he's faired pretty darn good in that matchup throughout his career.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#544 » by Guano » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:07 am

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spree2kawhi wrote:He just went to the WCF, guarding Durant and Jokic on the way …


How are his defense stats for those playoffs. And how did he do in the wcf.

I think you should put more trust in the eye test. I saw two outstanding playoff rounds from him and I’ve been talking about this trade being inevitable for months.


I watched him shoot minny out of the wcf
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#545 » by F N 11 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:08 am

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#547 » by F N 11 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:09 am

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Banks was feeling the vibes. This was a business move.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#548 » by BKlutch » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:09 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Same here. I was sad af when we lost the lottery and then clips of KAT dominating pre draft workouts was a heart breaker :lol: hopefully we can get his defense from Kentucky ..


I had this same avatar as a Lion ever since 2015 because I wanted us to land the Big KAT so badly. I was depressed as well for some time after that lottery even though KP was a solid consolation. I remember the NBA draft show citing Patrick Ewing as a comparison for KAT being a gut punch for me. He didn’t turn out to be an elite two-way player that I expected him to be, but did not anticipate him being an offensive juggernaut. He still shows flashes of defense though as seen vs Jokic and I hope he takes that next step here.

We didn’t get Ayton but we got one of our draft favorites in KAT. Wild times.

KAT played Jokic well but all of his flaws were on show against Dallas again. This can easily backfire imo

So I'm thinking that in the playoffs Mitch would be the answer when KAT doesn't match up well against their 5.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#549 » by F N 11 » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:09 am

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#550 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:10 am

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spree2kawhi wrote:It really was. What’s wild is how agitated some got on here even though it was so plain to see.


Yeah, that's why I would only drop an occasional line about it without engaging in the lengthy KAT debates. Ever since the Summer of Ainge I'll never get heavy into those kinds of potential trade arguments again. I can understand someone not liking KAT, but it seemed pretty obvious to me at least that Rose had his sights on KAT the day he became POBUS. It was just a common sense deduction that if KAT could ever be pried loose Rose would do what he could to get it done.


I was just watching the KnicksFanTV podcast and they talked about how the Knicks weren't very enthusiastic about playing Julius at the 5. Didn't think that he'd handle the PnR well on offense or on defense.


Randle has a pretty basic toolkit. When he limits his options like he did last season, he's effective at bully ball. But he's not that versatile and he only truly works when he's going downhill. So it makes sense that playing the 5 was not a great solution for him or the Knicks.

KAT can improvise on offense and score from any position so him at the 5 is still fairly fluid positionally as he is now going to be keying off Brunson part of the time. Other times Brunson and the rest of the squad can key off him when he is posting up.

A big difference is Randle's gravity as bully baller would attract doubles and potentially open the floor for open shooters, but it becomes easily identified as a pattern and over time lack of diversity becomes easier to anticipate and counter.

KAT on the other hand is going to be less predictable on offense as he can initiate or play off of the others equally. And with so many shooters around him his assist numbers should go up.

This is a squad that can keep defenses guessing constantly if they're in tune with each other and always looking for an open teammate.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#551 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:11 am

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How are his defense stats for those playoffs. And how did he do in the wcf.

I think you should put more trust in the eye test. I saw two outstanding playoff rounds from him and I’ve been talking about this trade being inevitable for months.


I watched him shoot minny out of the wcf

Well he got them there in the first place. And did you watch Edwards too?
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#552 » by BKlutch » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:12 am

Clyde_Style wrote:We're giving up Daquan Jeffries?

I hate this trade!

So this is a part of the reason why we had almost 20 players signed. We needed some bodies to send out in a potential (now finalized) trade.

I hope the next body we send out is a member of the 76'ers, a Center named Embiid. They'll need to trade him to somewhere out West after we eliminate the Sixers again.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#553 » by Knick4Real » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:13 am

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#554 » by Kidknick! » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:13 am

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#555 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:13 am

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Clyde_Style wrote:We're giving up Daquan Jeffries?

I hate this trade!

So this is a part of the reason why we had almost 20 players signed. We needed some bodies to send out in a potential (now finalized) trade.

I hope the next body we send out is a member of the 76'ers, a Center named Embiid. They'll need to trade him to somewhere out West after we eliminate the Sixers again.


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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#556 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:14 am

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on the opposite side of the spectrum KP and Embiid certainly don't want to be hanging out guarding KAT at the 3 pt line.

KAT had his worst game of this year against KP
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a one game sample size?

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/kat-vs-porzingis

he's faired pretty darn good in that matchup throughout his career.

Fam, KAT has been pretty ass against Boston.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#557 » by SelbyCobra » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:15 am

Minnesota fans and writers calling this "a cap move", and not in a positive way, gives the best indication that it was a really good basketball decision for the Knicks.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#558 » by BKlutch » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:15 am

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Grinditout wrote:I think I would've preferred trading Deuce over Donte, just to keep the Nova Knicks chemistry intact.


Yeah. I'm afraid off some off court drama now.

Does Brunson sign that team friendly deal if he knows DDV is a goner (Brunson vs Rose Drama)?

Did he know DDV was a goner and signed it anyways (Brunson vs DDV Drama)

Hopefully, DDV was ok with this deal and wanted out for more playing time or something (mutual for all parties).

Brunson's deal is part of our being able to sign KAT. He knew why he was taking less $$ now, just maybe not who it would be.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#560 » by Knick4Real » Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:17 am

spree2kawhi wrote:
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HarthorneWingo wrote:Does anyone here think that this move was precipitated by Mitch’s injury or was always in the cards?


Been saying it for two years that it was always going to happen

It really was. What’s wild is how agitated some got on here even though it was so plain to see.


I've been saying all summer the KNICKS weren't done dealing and that Randle was the next shoe to drop. I always knew it was coming.

Also, something to consider: the injuries to Randle and Mitch could be more severe than we know. Consider that.
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