Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd

[ophdog]

Yes, you expressing this sentiment every 2 mins in every thread has made that clear.

I’m sorry for honest engagement from a 40 year fan and 15 year participant here. I’m giving my honest thoughts and venting. I thought this was the place for that. Good to hear shade from a forum mod for using this for its intended purpose

It's not engagement. It's screaming basically the same post into every void you can find.

It's a rough night for everyone but this isn't the way to use this forum.

Ok won’t use it no problem

[ophdog]

Yes, you expressing this sentiment every 2 mins in every thread has made that clear.

I’m sorry for honest engagement from a 40 year fan and 15 year participant here. I’m giving my honest thoughts and venting. I thought this was the place for that. Good to hear shade from a forum mod for using this for its intended purpose

It's not engagement. It's screaming basically the same post into every void you can find.

It's a rough night for everyone but this isn't the way to use this forum.

Deleting now your as soft as KAT

[GONYK]

I’m sorry for honest engagement from a 40 year fan and 15 year participant here. I’m giving my honest thoughts and venting. I thought this was the place for that. Good to hear shade from a forum mod for using this for its intended purpose

It's not engagement. It's screaming basically the same post into every void you can find.

It's a rough night for everyone but this isn't the way to use this forum.

Deleting now your as soft as KAT

Night night

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Wasn't really a huge fan of the team they put together but I would give them another year before making any major changes. Personally I would look to flip Mitch in a package for another big wing/4 to move OG down to the 3 and Hart to the bench and maybe look for another ball handler for the 2nd unit.

Mitch has been solid since his return but he is entering the last year of his deal and i'm not sure I would want to extend an injury prone big heading towards 30 years old. Rim runner types can lose their usefulness as their athleticism declines.

He might be the best defensive center in the league. He did things these playoffs no other center is doing defensively. Trading him for KAT to be the permanent replacement at Center seems like a mistake.

Well it's obviously him or Rudy.

I mean I'm high on Hukporti's potential. But I don't see the Knicks trading Mitch and not picking up a centre to block Huk's development if Thibs is still the coach.

Again, my question is what can you get as a big wing/4 for under $13m?

And, backtracking, yes Lonzo is theoretically interesting. But what faith does one have in his durability?

[JayTWill]

Wasn't really a huge fan of the team they put together but I would give them another year before making any major changes. Personally I would look to flip Mitch in a package for another big wing/4 to move OG down to the 3 and Hart to the bench and maybe look for another ball handler for the 2nd unit.

Mitch has been solid since his return but he is entering the last year of his deal and i'm not sure I would want to extend an injury prone big heading towards 30 years old. Rim runner types can lose their usefulness as their athleticism declines.

He might be the best defensive center in the league. He did things these playoffs no other center is doing defensively. Trading him for KAT to be the permanent replacement at Center seems like a mistake.

Well it's obviously him or Rudy.

I mean I'm high on Hukporti's potential. But I don't see the Knicks trading Mitch and not picking up a centre to block Huk's development of Thibs is still the coach.

Again, my question is what can you get as a big wing/4 for under $13m?

And, backtracking, yes Lonzo is theoretically interesting. But what faith does one have in his durability?

Honestly at this point I wouldn't even mind taking a chance in the draft to get a big wing/4 if someone was willing to give up a decent pick for a package of Mitch and maybe the Wizard protected pick. I know many people always seem to think we can't waste a player like Brunson's prime while developing young players but the Knicks have struggled with younger more athletic teams all year. I wouldn't mind an injection of youth, energy and athleticism.

It may be a gamble the team needs to make to get a potential difference maker since no team will likely give the Knicks a quality starter for the limited assets they want to offer unless the Knicks want to continue to make major changes to the core of the roster but at some point they just need to settle on a group an attempt to build some chemistry and continuity.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

He might be the best defensive center in the league. He did things these playoffs no other center is doing defensively. Trading him for KAT to be the permanent replacement at Center seems like a mistake.

Well it's obviously him or Rudy.

I mean I'm high on Hukporti's potential. But I don't see the Knicks trading Mitch and not picking up a centre to block Huk's development of Thibs is still the coach.

Again, my question is what can you get as a big wing/4 for under $13m?

And, backtracking, yes Lonzo is theoretically interesting. But what faith does one have in his durability?

Honestly at this point I wouldn't even mind taking a chance in the draft to get a big wing/4 if someone was willing to give up a decent pick for a package of Mitch and maybe the Wizard protected pick. I know many people always seem to think we can't waste a player like Brunson's prime while developing young players but the Knicks have struggled with younger more athletic teams all year. I wouldn't mind an injection of youth, energy and athleticism.

It may be a gamble the team needs to make to get a potential difference maker since no team will likely give the Knicks a quality starter for the limited assets they want to offer unless the Knicks want to continue to make major changes to the core of the roster but at some point they just need to settle on a group an attempt to build some chemistry and continuity.

Ok. I understand that point of view. But the Knicks already have Dadiet and McCullars .... who are good, going to be second year - just out of being dragged, big-wings/small-4s. So ... do you really need to draft another one. For Thibs to also not play and develop?

And give up Mitch for that opportunity?

I really don't think so.

[KnixinSix]

Five top scenarios I can think of so far.....

1.Memphis wants to blow it up. Bridges still has strong value and was misused here. KAT finished top 10 in mvp even with the warts and is not a great fit with Brunson(from a defensive standpoint)

JJJ/Bane & Clark (for salary matching) for KAT/Bridges

JJJ/Mitch
OG/JJJ
Hart/OG
Bane/McBride
Brunson/Wright

Thats a much better lineup to assemble around Brunson.

OR

2. Giannis and Kuzma for KAT and Bridges and 3 FRP swaps and Wash 1st.

3.Bill Simmons suggested a 3 way deal with KAT and Spur picks going to Milwaukee, Giannis to NY and Bridges to Spurs

4. Would Phx be willing to move Dev Booker for KAT? Both have the EXACT same salary both in annual salary as well as total contract amount.

5. If Minny wants to resign Randle.....Mikal Bridges (24.9) and Kolek (2.1) for DDV (11.99) and Naz Reid (15M opted in player option)

[LookToShoot]

Five top scenarios I can think of so far.....

1.Memphis wants to blow it up. Bridges still has strong value and was misused here. KAT finished top 10 in mvp even with the warts and is not a great fit with Brunson(from a defensive standpoint)

JJJ/Bane & Clark (for salary matching) for KAT/Bridges

JJJ/Mitch
OG/JJJ
Hart/OG
Bane/McBride
Brunson/Wright

Thats a much better lineup to assemble around Brunson.

OR

2. Giannis and Kuzma for KAT and Bridges and 3 FRP swaps and Wash 1st.

3.Bill Simmons suggested a 3 way deal with KAT and Spur picks going to Milwaukee, Giannis to NY and Bridges to Spurs

4. Would Phx be willing to move Dev Booker for KAT? Both have the EXACT same salary both in annual salary as well as total contract amount.

5. If Minny wants to resign Randle.....Mikal Bridges (24.9) and Kolek (2.1) for DDV (11.99) and Naz Reid (15M opted in player option)

Brunson is terrible and you’re still talking about building around him? Jaren Jackson is another soft big man who jacks up threes.

It’s Giannis or bust.

[WargamesX]

Here just an idea

Knicks trade: KAT, Dadiet, Kolek
Knicks get: Herb Jones, RJ Barrett, Yvissi Missi, LAL 2027 2nd rounder

Pelicans trade: CJ McCollum, Herb Jones, Yvissi Missi, 2026 Indy draft pick
Pelicans get: KAT, Kolek

Raptors trade: RJ Barrett,
Raptors get: CJ McCollum, Dadiet, Indiana 2026 first rounder (owned by Pelicans)

Knicks get under the luxury tax and use some seconds to trade for DDV. Now there are 10 guys Thibs will play, and 3 defensive centers on the roster to avoid overplaying Mitch. Pelicans get a team that can hopefully get into the playoffs with. Raptors get a backup Guard who brings outside scoring and potentially can play PG behind IQ.

Knicks roster:
Brunson/DDV
RJ/Mcbride
Bridges/Hart
OG/Herb Jones
Mitch/Missi/Huk

There is a version of this that could lead to the Knicks getting Bobby Portis by trading the Bucks Herb Jones, but honestly who knows what the bucks will do. They might also want draft compensation for Portis.

The most notable thing is mathematically KAT being traded could bring back 4 players. That is how expensive his contract is.

[Knicks218]

OG, Bridges, Mitch, Duce. For Giannis, Dame. Works in Trade Machine. Sign Bruce Brown.

PG- Brunson/Dame
SG-Brown
SF-Hart
PF-Giannis
C-Towns

[seren]

Honestly with the second apron rules, I don’t see any big trade for us. If something happens, it would involve Hart or Bridges and bring back a similar smaller contract, not Giannis or KD size one. I am hoping they use the minimum contracts a bit wiser. Given Philly, Milwaukee, and Boston are not expected to get better and Cleveland may struggle to keep the roster together, I think we can be right back where we are next year.

[WargamesX]

Honestly with the second apron rules, I don’t see any big trade for us. If something happens, it would involve Hart or Bridges and bring back a similar smaller contract, not Giannis or KD size one. I am hoping they use the minimum contracts a bit wiser. Given Philly, Milwaukee, and Boston are not expected to get better and Cleveland may struggle to keep the roster together, I think we can be right back where we are next year.

2nd apron rules is another reason they should trade KAT. He’s making too much money based on his production and liabilities.

[R-DAWG]

You don't trade players like OG. He's top 5 defensive player and his offense has been coming along nicely. He's the ultimate type of player to have on a championship team.

Are we talking about a 3rd year player who’s becoming extension eligible or an 8 year vet on a max contract entering his age 28 season.

I’m all for selling high on OG - even though he’s a better player than Bridges

Derrick White
Aaron Gordon

I might even put Miles Turner in that conversation

No one is putting OG as option 1 or 2 on this team. He's excellent as an option 3. In fact you won't find a better two way player than him as an option 3 in the NBA.

[R-DAWG]

You don't trade players like OG. He's top 5 defensive player and his offense has been coming along nicely. He's the ultimate type of player to have on a championship team.

Are we talking about a 3rd year player who’s becoming extension eligible or an 8 year vet on a max contract entering his age 28 season.

I’m all for selling high on OG - even though he’s a better player than

No one is putting OG as option 1 or 2 on this team. He's excellent as an option 3. In fact you won't find a better two way player than him as an option 3 in the NBA.

Derick White

[R-DAWG]

Honestly with the second apron rules, I don’t see any big trade for us. If something happens, it would involve Hart or Bridges and bring back a similar smaller contract, not Giannis or KD size one. I am hoping they use the minimum contracts a bit wiser. Given Philly, Milwaukee, and Boston are not expected to get better and Cleveland may struggle to keep the roster together, I think we can be right back where we are next year.

2nd apron rules is another reason they should trade KAT. He’s making too much money based on his production and liabilities.

Same with Anunoby

And Bridges extension is going to also be in that discussion

[seren]

Honestly with the second apron rules, I don’t see any big trade for us. If something happens, it would involve Hart or Bridges and bring back a similar smaller contract, not Giannis or KD size one. I am hoping they use the minimum contracts a bit wiser. Given Philly, Milwaukee, and Boston are not expected to get better and Cleveland may struggle to keep the roster together, I think we can be right back where we are next year.

2nd apron rules is another reason they should trade KAT. He’s making too much money based on his production and liabilities.

Same with Anunoby

And Bridges extension is going to also be in that discussion

I don’t think they do a trade and end up getting less talent. And getting more talent will be tough given 2nd apron. Just checked Giannis and KD contracts. Both make more than KAT. We can’t get them and stay over the 2nd apron. If you get either, we will also have to trade bunch of other players to third teams to stay under apron.

[8516knicks]

Honestly with the second apron rules, I don’t see any big trade for us. If something happens, it would involve Hart or Bridges and bring back a similar smaller contract, not Giannis or KD size one. I am hoping they use the minimum contracts a bit wiser. Given Philly, Milwaukee, and Boston are not expected to get better and Cleveland may struggle to keep the roster together, I think we can be right back where we are next year.

2nd apron rules is another reason they should trade KAT. He’s making too much money based on his production and liabilities.

KAT and Thibs for 2025-26 means we are not likely to ever again reach the ECF. One or both have to go. Yesterday was like the Pacers on ice skates and the Knicks stuck in cement. For a reported D coach, Thibs screwed the pooch. And that's not even getting into the pound 17 seconds for an iso offense. That worked well yesterday, didn't it? If this was baseball, KAT would be the designated hitter. And valuable. But it's basketball.

[LookToShoot]

Honestly with the second apron rules, I don’t see any big trade for us. If something happens, it would involve Hart or Bridges and bring back a similar smaller contract, not Giannis or KD size one. I am hoping they use the minimum contracts a bit wiser. Given Philly, Milwaukee, and Boston are not expected to get better and Cleveland may struggle to keep the roster together, I think we can be right back where we are next year.

2nd apron rules is another reason they should trade KAT. He’s making too much money based on his production and liabilities.

Scapegoating KAT when he just got there. Brunson should be traded along with the Villanova famailia.

[8516knicks]

Honestly with the second apron rules, I don’t see any big trade for us. If something happens, it would involve Hart or Bridges and bring back a similar smaller contract, not Giannis or KD size one. I am hoping they use the minimum contracts a bit wiser. Given Philly, Milwaukee, and Boston are not expected to get better and Cleveland may struggle to keep the roster together, I think we can be right back where we are next year.

2nd apron rules is another reason they should trade KAT. He’s making too much money based on his production and liabilities.

Scapegoating KAT when he just got there. Brunson should be traded along with the Villanova famailia.

Because you miss Fizdale?

[LookToShoot]

2nd apron rules is another reason they should trade KAT. He’s making too much money based on his production and liabilities.

Scapegoating KAT when he just got there. Brunson should be traded along with the Villanova famailia.

Because you miss Fizdale?

I don’t see the correlation. Do you own a Brunson jersey and don’t want to buy a new one?