Melo Trade Thread #? - We all know nothing (Upd PG 64 - Deal Happening Tonight/Tomorrow?)

[AmazingJason]

Mills needs to hold out on this or take Cavs rumored Shumpert offer.

No Hartenstein. No Qi. Da fuq?

[Wolfgang630]

Rotten apple doing his usual garbage of propping Melo up and not respecting KP as a top player. KP is the big dog now who the team will be built around. MElo's time has come and gone.

[reub]

FWIW- This trade between the Knicks and Cavs works straight up. No need to add in Love or a 3rd team.

Cavs get- Carmelo Anthony
Knicks get- Iman Shumpert (2 years, 10.3 mil per), Channing Frye (1 year, 7.4 mil), Richard Jefferson (2 years, 2.5 mil), Kay Felder (2 years, 1.3 mil)

The return the Knicks are getting is so bad they could probably easily sneak a 2020 Cleveland first round pick in there.

This trade would EASILY be the Knicks best option, and it's also the best option for the Cavs because they keep Love and add Carmelo.

Why would we do that deal? All I see that's of value is the draft pick and that's 3 years away.

[drekwins]

FWIW- This trade between the Knicks and Cavs works straight up. No need to add in Love or a 3rd team.

Cavs get- Carmelo Anthony
Knicks get- Iman Shumpert (2 years, 10.3 mil per), Channing Frye (1 year, 7.4 mil), Richard Jefferson (2 years, 2.5 mil), Kay Felder (2 years, 1.3 mil)

The return the Knicks are getting is so bad they could probably easily sneak a 2020 Cleveland first round pick in there.

This trade would EASILY be the Knicks best option, and it's also the best option for the Cavs because they keep Love and add Carmelo.

yup... have been posting this for weeks... its a simple trade... win for both sides

Shumpert has expressed to the Cleveland front office that he doesn't want to traded to NY.

There goes your trade idea

I don't think they care

[AmazingJason]

FWIW- This trade between the Knicks and Cavs works straight up. No need to add in Love or a 3rd team.

Cavs get- Carmelo Anthony
Knicks get- Iman Shumpert (2 years, 10.3 mil per), Channing Frye (1 year, 7.4 mil), Richard Jefferson (2 years, 2.5 mil), Kay Felder (2 years, 1.3 mil)

The return the Knicks are getting is so bad they could probably easily sneak a 2020 Cleveland first round pick in there.

This trade would EASILY be the Knicks best option, and it's also the best option for the Cavs because they keep Love and add Carmelo.

Why would we do that deal? All I see that's of value is the draft pick and that's 3 years away.

I will say that pick is going to be pretty good. Maybe even Celtics Brooklyn good. Based on LeBron's off-season behavior, I would say there's a 90% chance he's ditching Cleveland the first chance he gets. I'm sure him and his team are already planning possible future destinations.

[reub]

FWIW- This trade between the Knicks and Cavs works straight up. No need to add in Love or a 3rd team.

Cavs get- Carmelo Anthony
Knicks get- Iman Shumpert (2 years, 10.3 mil per), Channing Frye (1 year, 7.4 mil), Richard Jefferson (2 years, 2.5 mil), Kay Felder (2 years, 1.3 mil)

The return the Knicks are getting is so bad they could probably easily sneak a 2020 Cleveland first round pick in there.

This trade would EASILY be the Knicks best option, and it's also the best option for the Cavs because they keep Love and add Carmelo.

Why would we do that deal? All I see that's of value is the draft pick and that's 3 years away.

I will say that pick is going to be pretty good. Maybe even Celtics Brooklyn good. Based on LeBron's off-season behavior, I would say there's a 90% chance he's ditching Cleveland the first chance he gets. I'm sure him and his team are already planning possible future destinations.

The pick is 3 years away!!!

[frothbrain]

Mills needs to hold out on this or take Cavs rumored Shumpert offer.

No Hartenstein. No Qi. Da fuq?

Qi is too valuable to the Rockets Chinese fan base to just throw in the trade.
Hartenstein is a nobody. I'm sure they would include him.

Another proposal that saves Portland a little money but Lee in place of Gordon seems like too much of a downgrade for Portland to accept.

[god shammgod]

yup... have been posting this for weeks... its a simple trade... win for both sides

Shumpert has expressed to the Cleveland front office that he doesn't want to traded to NY.

There goes your trade idea

I don't think they care

[frothbrain]

Why would we do that deal? All I see that's of value is the draft pick and that's 3 years away.

I will say that pick is going to be pretty good. Maybe even Celtics Brooklyn good. Based on LeBron's off-season behavior, I would say there's a 90% chance he's ditching Cleveland the first chance he gets. I'm sure him and his team are already planning possible future destinations.

The pick is 3 years away!!!

Cavs can't trade their pick until 2021 the earliest and has to be conditional in the event they convey their pick to atlanta in 2020. Meaning they cant convey a pick until 2022.

[Bklyn&company]

FWIW- This trade between the Knicks and Cavs works straight up. No need to add in Love or a 3rd team.

Cavs get- Carmelo Anthony
Knicks get- Iman Shumpert (2 years, 10.3 mil per), Channing Frye (1 year, 7.4 mil), Richard Jefferson (2 years, 2.5 mil), Kay Felder (2 years, 1.3 mil)

The return the Knicks are getting is so bad they could probably easily sneak a 2020 Cleveland first round pick in there.

This trade would EASILY be the Knicks best option, and it's also the best option for the Cavs because they keep Love and add Carmelo.

yup... have been posting this for weeks... its a simple trade... win for both sides...

We can also buy out RJ (pennies), waive Frye...

My trade is even more simple then yours.

Cavs get--Melo

Knicks get--Love


Simple

Lol... ok

[Knicks_Fan2]

Read on Twitter

I don't know who this is

Edit: F**** twitter and mixing old posts with new posts. Am sure this was posted pages ago so my b.

[Knicksfan1992]

Cap space is mad overrated. It's nice to have some but generally it's easy to clear cap of you need too. Noah is almost impossible to move but in general it's easy to move albatross contracts

[mpharris36]

Cap space is mad overrated. It's nice to have some but generally it's easy to clear cap of you need too. Noah is almost impossible to move but in general it's easy to move albatross contracts

i wouldn't say its mad overrated. But for a team building around youth like us that wont be able to attract big time all-star talent type FA's yes its a bit overrated.

Which is why if we have to take back a slightly longer contract than Melo to get this done so we can get a few assets back I would be down. We aren't going to be in the FA pool at least for a 2-3 years anyway until our young guns are ready to compete.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Cap space is mad overrated. It's nice to have some but generally it's easy to clear cap of you need too. Noah is almost impossible to move but in general it's easy to move albatross contracts

This is completely wrong in the current environment. Please see the Lakers having to move DeAngelo to unload Mozgov. most teams will be capped out going forward as the cap is flattening out.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Cap space is mad overrated. It's nice to have some but generally it's easy to clear cap of you need too. Noah is almost impossible to move but in general it's easy to move albatross contracts

i wouldn't say its mad overrated. But for a team building around youth like us that wont be able to attract big time all-star talent type FA's yes its a bit overrated.

Which is why if we have to take back a slightly longer contract than Melo to get this done so we can get a few assets back I would be down. We aren't going to be in the FA pool at least for a 2-3 years anyway until our young guns are ready to compete.

The problem with rebuilding teams is that only a few understand how valuable their cap space is as a dumping ground for other teams. BK has realized this and has earned 3 first round picks and DeAngelo as a result. Philly realized it and it is the reason they have Markelle Fultz. When you are bad, you should keep enough open that you can take others' assets and, when you are good, you should go after players. When you are bad, and spending big on players that won't move the needle, that is the worst of both worlds.

[Newyorknick94]

Cap space is mad overrated. It's nice to have some but generally it's easy to clear cap of you need too. Noah is almost impossible to move but in general it's easy to move albatross contracts

This is completely wrong in the current environment. Please see the Lakers having to move DeAngelo to unload Mozgov. most teams will be capped out going forward as the cap is flattening out.

Lakers didn't need to trade russel it's not like they had a star about to sign or anything they could've waited

[god shammgod]

Cap space is mad overrated. It's nice to have some but generally it's easy to clear cap of you need too. Noah is almost impossible to move but in general it's easy to move albatross contracts

if it was easy than melo to houston would be done because they could easily move ryan anderson to a 3rd team. it's not so easy.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Cap space is mad overrated. It's nice to have some but generally it's easy to clear cap of you need too. Noah is almost impossible to move but in general it's easy to move albatross contracts

This is completely wrong in the current environment. Please see the Lakers having to move DeAngelo to unload Mozgov. most teams will be capped out going forward as the cap is flattening out.

Lakers didn't need to trade russel it's not like they had a star about to sign or anything they could've waited

Irrespective of their strategy, the price to move Mozgov illustrates that it is not easy to get cap space in the current environment.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Cap space is mad overrated. It's nice to have some but generally it's easy to clear cap of you need too. Noah is almost impossible to move but in general it's easy to move albatross contracts

if it was easy than melo to houston would be done because they could easily move ryan anderson to a 3rd team. it's not so easy.

Teams seem to be demanding more than one first to take on that deal. Anything longer than 2 years is tough to stomach for most teams.

[whocares1]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19930463/new-york-knicks-ex-cleveland-cavaliers-gm-david-griffin-progressing-contract-negotiations

Contract negotiations maybe starting with Griffin.