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Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:35 pm
by 2010
Jose7 wrote:Sounds like they have 0 plans of starting Frank this season which is unfortunate because whoever they pick up is likely a journeyman. All I can hope is that player gets WHG and KP involved as much as possible.

Again, in super irked the crap job by the media. No mentioned of Noah oquinn lee Thomas by them. No mentioned of rambis..no mention of advance statistics regarding play in 16-17...I don't wanana read **** by these dudes who clearly have no "in" within the organization. None of them ever break a story unless it's bull drama..I hope some of y'all young cats are watching and tryna eat because there's clearly food in the sports journalism field.


They should allow like 3 questions from the fanbase that are tweeted to the Knicks team page. Then pick which of the three will be posed to the interviewee. Cuz I feel like sometimes our questions are more relevant than what the media chooses to ask.

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:37 pm
by dakomish23
2010 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
2010 wrote:
:lol:

I think (no, I know) he is definitely talking about Willy and Tim in addition to KP.

He gave Tim that contract for a reason. He views him as entering the all star team conversation at some point during the life of the deal (next 4 years). Mills never wanted Tim to leave. He has always viewed him as a potential starter and star player if he developed right. That is why he brought him back after the man who was responsible for trading him was dismissed.

And he is the one who was the believer in WHG and brought him to Phil's attention. He loves WHG and his development signifies Mills basketball eye for talent. Which is why it is laughable when I see all these WHG trade proposals. People not understanding WHG is his crown jewel moment in personnel decisions. He will wait however long it takes for that flower to fully bloom. Because he planted the seed.

KP, Tim, WHG are the "rising stars" Mills has referenced.


Well, let's hope he's right. I don't see it right now but like I said that could change.

Tank 2018/19/20 should produce some more core pieces.


Tbh I think this should be our last year of obvious tanking. After the 2017-18 season I feel like we should play to win and play to develop our kids. They need to learn how to win and take small progressive lumps until they get over the hump. At some point good habits need to be fostered. Tank in 17-18 for Doncic/Porter Jr. then after that let the chips fall where they may. We already have some dope young pieces (KP, WHG, Tim, Frank, Dotson, [whoever a Melo trade nets], and our 2018 pick). That is enough. Try to win after that and let these guys develop and learn by fighting and taking their lumps. Lets do it organically.


I'm fine with trying to win games because of the output of the youngsters. They won't win many for the next few seasons though. THJ probably adds 2-3 wins more. Wins we don't need when we're going to be bad.

I want us to think long term and think championships. This group of youngsters is far from a contending core IMO. Maybe peak as a treadmill level team.

Get a great pick this year. Get a great pick next year. Get a great pick the year after that unless multiple guys take a huge leap. They may not all be ringers but they will be assets, even if they look like bustz that first year. See KLove & Butler deals.

Use your cap space to gain assets (another reason I didn't like the THJ deal) so you can draft guys to add to them to the team or use them in needle moving trades down the line.

Sell high on your guys. Thanks goodness we have a GM who seems to appreciate that.

We could've done so much more and I'm not settling for less.

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:40 pm
by sol537
I'm on team tank (by giving the keys to the youth)...

-Trade 'Melo
-Trade Lee
-Trade KOQ
-Trade Lance
-Start: Baker, Frank, THjr, KP, Willy and run it through KP and P&R's all day long.
-Get KP to buy into bringing in two more draft studs before we commit to big free agents to put us over the top

Just two more years...

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:47 pm
by NotPhilJackson
I just think of Iced T when I see Scott Perry talking, I can't pinpoint why though.

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:49 pm
by DOT
NotPhilJackson wrote:I just think of Iced T when I see Scott Perry I can't pinpoint why though.

Ice T
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Iced T
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Slight difference

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:53 pm
by NotPhilJackson
K-DOT wrote:
NotPhilJackson wrote:I just think of Iced T when I see Scott Perry I can't pinpoint why though.

Ice T
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Iced T
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Slight difference


haha how could I!! ... I like getting blunted after work - sue me.. You knew what I meant

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Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:04 pm
by NotPhilJackson
yoooo kiddin me with Hornacek explaining his defensive philosophies

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Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:11 pm
by NotPhilJackson
Q: What's the pecking order?

Scott Perry: Well you see basicallyI'm in the position toevaluate operationsand make a strong suggestion to Steve

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:29 pm
by vallen

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:39 pm
by NYKat
If they're true to their commitment to defense...

They either fire Hornacek outright or they dump Rambis and hire a new defensive specialist to assist... The guy who ran Hornaceks defense in Phoenix didn't come with him to NY... We need new blood...

You can't talk big talk about commitment to change and trot out the same old staff

Re: RE: Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:47 pm
by 3eePointGoal
NYKat wrote:If they're true to their commitment to defense...

They either fire Hornacek outright or they dump Rambis and hire a new defensive specialist to assist... The guy who ran Hornaceks defense in Phoenix didn't come with him to NY... We need new blood...

You can't talk big talk about commitment to change and trot out the same old staff

Get rid of rambis

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:50 pm
by MP4LIFE
NYKat wrote:If they're true to their commitment to defense...

They either fire Hornacek outright or they dump Rambis and hire a new defensive specialist to assist... The guy who ran Hornaceks defense in Phoenix didn't come with him to NY... We need new blood...

You can't talk big talk about commitment to change and trot out the same old staff


That guy you're talking about is on the Cavs and I highly doubt he's leaving there to come here.

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:56 pm
by Dr. Detfink

Watch on YouTube

Ice T...more like Lemonade READ the signs people! :banghead:

All this Press Conference tells us, the new GM gets to enjoy some Broadway shows until Knick contracts expire. Enjoy the #10 spot in the NBA draft. :lol:

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:10 am
by Kurt Rambis
At least he seems likable.

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:21 am
by NotPhilJackson
Rambis is out of NY lol, it's only a matter of time before preseason.

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:22 am
by N Y K
mills face is amazing during this conference

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:25 am
by ozwizard8
Perry convinced me so far.
I like his attitude. I like how he credited the people.
He didnt talk too good about Hornacek. He didnt act dishonest. He'll give chance for Horny but if he cant keep up he'll look for replacement.

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Defense needs consistency. Melo and players like him wont help defensive mind set. Sadly i'd include Willy too. He's willing defender but his physical tools are below average so he cant defend good.

Trading Melo for Z.Collins+M.Harkless would be excellent for this young and defensive team building mindset.
Frank-Lee-THJR-L.Thomas-KP-KOQ-Baker. Those guys would ok to give effort on defensive end.

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:28 am
by ozwizard8
MP4LIFE wrote:
NYKat wrote:If they're true to their commitment to defense...

They either fire Hornacek outright or they dump Rambis and hire a new defensive specialist to assist... The guy who ran Hornaceks defense in Phoenix didn't come with him to NY... We need new blood...

You can't talk big talk about commitment to change and trot out the same old staff


That guy you're talking about is on the Cavs and I highly doubt he's leaving there to come here.

Offer him better salary with more years. NY should be better than Cleveland.
Do we need to give picks to get asistant coaches?

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:28 am
by Triple C

Re: Knicks Press Conference Thread (2PM)

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:30 am
by ozwizard8
sol537 wrote:I'm on team tank (by giving the keys to the youth)...

-Trade 'Melo
-Trade Lee
-Trade KOQ
-Trade Lance
-Start: Baker, Frank, THjr, KP, Willy and run it through KP and P&R's all day long.
-Get KP to buy into bringing in two more draft studs before we commit to big free agents to put us over the top

Just two more years...

I would be ok to tank hard for 1 year. But even that doesnt seem likely.
If they dont sign a pg and trade Melo for mostly scrubs+picks then we've a chance to tank.

KP and THJR going to have good seasons I just feel it especially for KP.