Draft Thread 2: The Electric Draftaloo

[El Poochio]

BAD NEWS BARRETT EYES LIKE TMAC DRIVES LIKE HARDEN

[K_ick_God]

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well that sucks. whole family seems cursed with injuries.

Drop foot is probably covered under the ADA so no that can’t be too good for a basketball player.

He dropped more than a foot in the draft. He dropped a mile high.

[El Poochio]

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Basketball Rehabbb

Free salary baby

[El Poochio]

mitch
durant
knox
culver
kyrie or kemba

I GOT SOME BAD NEWSSSSS

[El Poochio]

[K_ick_God]

All this talk about Knox a star or not a star. I believe he can average 18 PPG and bring versatile scoring. Good enough.

Take it and run. A major star like Ainthatahoopno just crapped out of the playoffs because he has serious scoring deficiencies.

[King of Canada]

All this talk about Knox a star or not a star. I believe he can average 18 PPG and bring versatile scoring. Good enough.

Take it and run. A major star like Ainthatahoopno just crapped out of the playoffs because he has serious scoring deficiencies.

Yup, we've been so draft starved for so long that we're not happy just having a good basketball player at 19 years old that late in the draft. Knox is already better than 90% of Knicks in the last 10 years.

[King of Canada]

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Basketball Rehabbb

Free salary baby

I wouldn't be mad

[DOT]

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Basketball Rehabbb

Free salary baby

I wouldn't be mad

I mean, eh

I like Frank, I think it's a waste to get rid of that good of defensive talent when all he needs is a consistent 3 pointer to be a rotation player if not starter on the right team, and he'd be a perfect fit for us with a 3 pointer. And the likelihood of getting someone at 26 that becomes a rotation player is worse than the likelihood of Frank developing a 3 pointer

But I get that we have to cut salary somewhere to open up a 2nd max slot, and if we have to choose a guy, Frank makes the most sense. He's worse than Trier and DSJ right now plus we need to keep DSJ as a backup plan if Kyrie doesn't come, Dot and Mitch aren't paid enough to make a difference, and Knox has higher upside as a scorer which Pills put a premium on

If we do make this trade, I hope whoever we get turns out better than Frank, and Perry aced the late picks last draft so I trust his judgement. Not gonna be super happy about it though

[GONYK]

I find it really weird that everyone that seems connected to the NBA (coaches, scouts) seem to love Barrett.

What am i missing? Maybe his mental makeup is that_good.

The scouting community finds consensus that Barrett is a top 3 player in the draft.

There is a ton of variation on whether or not he projects as a scorer off the bench, a starter, or a future all star.

That’s true about almost everyone in the draft.

In this draft, yes

[robillionaire]

there are a lot of solid players in that 26th range. I like it. Make it happen pills.

those 16 and 17 point scoring outbursts against the cavs at the end of the 2018 season must have convinced them, take the pick and run!

[robillionaire]

just think we'd have the 31s pick too if not for some fuqery

[King of Canada]

Basketball Rehabbb

Free salary baby

I wouldn't be mad

I mean, eh

I like Frank, I think it's a waste to get rid of that good of defensive talent when all he needs is a consistent 3 pointer to be a rotation player if not starter on the right team, and he'd be a perfect fit for us with a 3 pointer. And the likelihood of getting someone at 26 that becomes a rotation player is worse than the likelihood of Frank developing a 3 pointer

But I get that we have to cut salary somewhere to open up a 2nd max slot, and if we have to choose a guy, Frank makes the most sense. He's worse than Trier and DSJ right now plus we need to keep DSJ as a backup plan if Kyrie doesn't come, Dot and Mitch aren't paid enough to make a difference, and Knox has higher upside as a scorer which Pills put a premium on

If we do make this trade, I hope whoever we get turns out better than Frank, and Perry aced the late picks last draft so I trust his judgement. Not gonna be super happy about it though

Same. I love Frank and think he'll eventually figure it out, but he's not worth anywhere near his salary right now. If he was a RFA and the Cavs offered him a long term deal at 5-8mill we wouldn't match it right now. It's just a case of a player being picked way too early. I think the Knicks have been shopping him for a long time, otherwise he would have spent the season in the g league.

[Deeeez Knicks]

I would rather have Frank then pick #26 in a vacuum, but we may need the extra salary. We did not come all this way just to be short a few bucks. He is the odd man out.

[NYKHardKnock]

I would rather have Frank then pick #26 in a vacuum, but we may need the extra salary. We did not come all this way just to be short a few bucks. He is the odd man out.

100% agreed. We’re loaded with guards. He has a chance to be a nice piece in this league, like Iman Shumpert. Nothing more.

I tried to make y’all believe he was the next up and coming Kawhi Leonard LOL

[thebuzzardman]

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Almost had a heart attack when I say that the Cavs and Knicks had discussed a trade. Though it was for the 3rd overall pic lol.

But I'd be ok with the Cavs 26th for Frank. It's clear the Knicks don't believe Frank's a fit in what they want to do. So no reason hanging onto him and, more importantly, that near $5 in cap space.

The 26th pic, assuming they even keep it, counts only $1.4 million against the cap. Knicks would clear about $3.5 million more in cap space

As far as player options at 26? Maybe someone to replace Vonleh? Dikembe Mutombos nephew, Mfiondu Kabengele is a big long armed mobile defender that can shoot from 3. He'd be a good fit in what the Knicks appear to want to run.

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Yup. I was saying something similar in the "offseason" topic.

That 5 million differential may matter to the Knicks. Capologists on here I believe were saying it was pretty much a given a player in the DSJr/Frank/Knox range would have to go to either give the max cats all the max they want, or barring they want every last cent, to have greater flexibility in general.
Add in IF Kyrie (or Kemba) with Durant are a thing, then there is guard log jam, particularly at PG, but also at SG and SF has enough players as well - making Frank more likely to go. Plus the FO opinion of him is pretty clear.

I would have preferred they keep him and let him develop - I THINK he still could, and would have been useful in a tall switchable defense coming off bench to guard PG. But he may never pan past a a situational defender and grabbing that late first rounder would be a way cheaper to have asset, where the Knicks may have a few targets they like and/or the Pels may want the somewhat cheaper player of similar perceived playing value.

[Deeeez Knicks]

I still like Ja. I think a lot of people are pigeon holing him into the Westbrook mode but a PG with his combo of smarts and dog mentality hasn't come around in awhile. PGs usually have one or the other. He has both. The guy I compare him to is Kevin Johnson and I think you could still win with Kevin Johnson. Hell of a playmaker/head and got to the rim at will. Ja should be able to come around somewhat with his J or just get hot occasionally like he did vs. FSU.

Yeah, i still like Ja a lot. He is #2 on my board. I like the KJ comparison.

[GONYK]

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[King of Canada]

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Almost had a heart attack when I say that the Cavs and Knicks had discussed a trade. Though it was for the 3rd overall pic lol.

But I'd be ok with the Cavs 26th for Frank. It's clear the Knicks don't believe Frank's a fit in what they want to do. So no reason hanging onto him and, more importantly, that near $5 in cap space.

The 26th pic, assuming they even keep it, counts only $1.4 million against the cap. Knicks would clear about $3.5 million more in cap space

As far as player options at 26? Maybe someone to replace Vonleh? Dikembe Mutombos nephew, Mfiondu Kabengele is a big long armed mobile defender that can shoot from 3. He'd be a good fit in what the Knicks appear to want to run.

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Yup. I was saying something similar in the "offseason" topic.

That 5 million differential may matter to the Knicks. Capologists on here I believe were saying it was pretty much a given a player in the DSJr/Frank/Knox range would have to go to either give the max cats all the max they want, or barring they want every last cent, to have greater flexibility in general.
Add in IF Kyrie (or Kemba) with Durant are a thing, then there is guard log jam, particularly at PG, but also at SG and SF has enough players as well - making Frank more likely to go. Plus the FO opinion of him is pretty clear.

I would have preferred they keep him and let him develop - I THINK he still could, and would have been useful in a tall switchable defense coming off bench to guard PG. But he may never pan past a a situational defender and grabbing that late first rounder would be a way cheaper to have asset, where the Knicks may have a few targets they like and/or the Pels may want the somewhat cheaper player of similar perceived playing value.

The 26th pick would be another asset if they were making an offer for AD, and then in that trade it would no longer put the Knicks a little past cap space for three max cats

[moocow007]

Almost had a heart attack when I say that the Cavs and Knicks had discussed a trade. Though it was for the 3rd overall pic lol.

But I'd be ok with the Cavs 26th for Frank. It's clear the Knicks don't believe Frank's a fit in what they want to do. So no reason hanging onto him and, more importantly, that near $5 in cap space.

The 26th pic, assuming they even keep it, counts only $1.4 million against the cap. Knicks would clear about $3.5 million more in cap space

As far as player options at 26? Maybe someone to replace Vonleh? Dikembe Mutombos nephew, Mfiondu Kabengele is a big long armed mobile defender that can shoot from 3. He'd be a good fit in what the Knicks appear to want to run.

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Yup. I was saying something similar in the "offseason" topic.

That 5 million differential may matter to the Knicks. Capologists on here I believe were saying it was pretty much a given a player in the DSJr/Frank/Knox range would have to go to either give the max cats all the max they want, or barring they want every last cent, to have greater flexibility in general.
Add in IF Kyrie (or Kemba) with Durant are a thing, then there is guard log jam, particularly at PG, but also at SG and SF has enough players as well - making Frank more likely to go. Plus the FO opinion of him is pretty clear.

I would have preferred they keep him and let him develop - I THINK he still could, and would have been useful in a tall switchable defense coming off bench to guard PG. But he may never pan past a a situational defender and grabbing that late first rounder would be a way cheaper to have asset, where the Knicks may have a few targets they like and/or the Pels may want the somewhat cheaper player of similar perceived playing value.

The 26th pick would be another asset if they were making an offer for AD, and then in that trade it would no longer put the Knicks a little past cap space for three max cats

Great point.

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