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[Deeeez Knicks]

Umm....RJ is not in the same class as Wiggins I would not see them doing the same. Wiggins was an ELITE prospect....In retrospect RJ isnt.

RJ was a top prospect too, maybe not as hyped up as Wiggins. Doesn’t really matter much after a few years in the league anyway.

The comparison is Wiggins thriving as a #3 type guy who does a little bit of everything on the right team. He’s blossoming at age 26/27. Basically learning how to play off the ball, pick his spots while staying aggressive, and doing other things. RJ has a different game but he can be that type of contributor on a winning team, easily.

Nice, so we’ve got our fourth option down. Let’s rock!

It’s sad but he’s probably the best core piece we have.

[Chanel Bomber]

Yea that’s what I have been saying in all those RJ debates that his percentages can go up

For RJ, he is basically a star with enough of an efficiency boost

And that's also something you can say about a lot of NBA players.

Dion Waiters would have been a star with enough of an efficiency boost. That doesn't say much.

Every player in the NBA would see their percentages go up playing with Curry and Klay. It's not unique or rare.

Not everyone can be as good as Wiggins though and give that type of production. No way Waiters could do what Wiggins is doing especially from a size perspective. He wasnt on that level and couldn’t play the way the warriors play. Imo, RJ could become something like that pretty easily. Not saying it’s rare or unique, but simply something that’s valuable and very helpful.

We'll see.

I don't think Wiggins upside is out of the realm of possibility. He doesn't have the same tools though, especially as a defender and as a finisher.

My point about rare and unique was not about the Wiggins 3&D+ archetype but about the fact that every NBA player would likely be more efficient playing alongside Steph. It's not specific to Wiggins or hypothetically RJ.

[JBreezeNY]

If wiggins had RJ atheltic ability he wouldn't be doing this is truly my point. He tapping into elite measurables. RJ won’t be

RJ doesn’t have his hops, but he has some other aspects that allows him to get to the rim so much. Put him on GS for a few years with that spacing and ball movement and he would thrive too. His percentages would def go up.

The issue I have is that RJ is do for a contract situation soon. You basically saying he a number 3, so we going to max him will we wait for #1 & 2?

If his best role is to be a number 3 then we fucccccked for sure.

We are but we’ll be okay.

I’ve been calling Wiggins, RJ’s father, all season and saying we need to trade RJ for the very reasons you speak but….when you break it down and take some time to think on it, re-signing RJ is needed because it will show continuity and truly believing in building a foundation with our youth. Us making RJ our #1 option will pay dividends 10 years from now, granted we stick with the path of proving to everyone we’re committed to building our own.

As a disclaimer I hate the makeup of the team, everyone on the roster outside of Grimes & Cherry Picker can go but building with RJ as your main star shows the league we really do want to get our sh*t together at least for the public.

Will we suck? Absolutely.

A RJ led team will be in the lotto/play-in every year but the point is to show free agents and teams around the league we’re not a sh*t show that doesn’t want to re-sign their young talent.

[Deeeez Knicks]

And that's also something you can say about a lot of NBA players.

Dion Waiters would have been a star with enough of an efficiency boost. That doesn't say much.

Every player in the NBA would see their percentages go up playing with Curry and Klay. It's not unique or rare.

Not everyone can be as good as Wiggins though and give that type of production. No way Waiters could do what Wiggins is doing especially from a size perspective. He wasnt on that level and couldn’t play the way the warriors play. Imo, RJ could become something like that pretty easily. Not saying it’s rare or unique, but simply something that’s valuable and very helpful.

We'll see.

I don't think Wiggins upside is out of the realm of possibility. He doesn't have the same tools though, especially as a defender and as a finisher.

My point about rare and unique was not about the Wiggins 3&D+ archetype but about the fact that every NBA player would likely be more efficient playing alongside Steph. It's not specific to Wiggins or hypothetically RJ.

I would say RJ still has a higher ceiling then Wiggins so I'm not capping him at that. In terms of defense, at one point Wiggins was viewed as a bad defender. That's another part of his game he really improved on.

So yea, players can change and keep getting better, especially when they are in a better situation. We aren't getting Steph and Klay, but certainly can build a better team then this. Prototypical wings that can get 20points and do a little bit everything can be pretty valuable and have a place on winning teams. Whether that's Wiggins, Jimmy Butler, Middleton, etc..all different levels and still tbd where RJ would fit. But there is a template where RJ can be a good player on a winning team.

[Chanel Bomber]

RJ doesn’t have his hops, but he has some other aspects that allows him to get to the rim so much. Put him on GS for a few years with that spacing and ball movement and he would thrive too. His percentages would def go up.

The issue I have is that RJ is do for a contract situation soon. You basically saying he a number 3, so we going to max him will we wait for #1 & 2?

If his best role is to be a number 3 then we fucccccked for sure.

We are but we’ll be okay.

I’ve been calling Wiggins, RJ’s father, all season and saying we need to trade RJ for the very reasons you speak but….when you break it down and take some time to think on it, re-signing RJ is needed because it will show continuity and truly believing in building a foundation with our youth. Us making RJ our #1 option will pay dividends 10 years from now, granted we stick with the path of proving to everyone we’re committed to building our own.

As a disclaimer I hate the makeup of the team, everyone on the roster outside of Grimes & Cherry Picker can go but building with RJ as your main star shows the league we really do want to get our sh*t together at least for the public.

Will we suck? Absolutely.

A RJ led team will be in the lotto/play-in every year but the point is to show free agents and teams around the league we’re not a sh*t show that doesn’t want to re-sign their young talent.

I often find myself agreeing with you but do you think players care about that?

They don't care that KP, Frank and Knox got traded/let go by the Knicks, just like they didn't care about Will, Gallo and J. Hill. I doubt it's even on their radar.

The Kings resigned both Boogie and Fox and these were awful moves. Without results, I don't think NBA stars care about "continuity". They care about quality.

[JBreezeNY]

The issue I have is that RJ is do for a contract situation soon. You basically saying he a number 3, so we going to max him will we wait for #1 & 2?

If his best role is to be a number 3 then we fucccccked for sure.

We are but we’ll be okay.

I’ve been calling Wiggins, RJ’s father, all season and saying we need to trade RJ for the very reasons you speak but….when you break it down and take some time to think on it, re-signing RJ is needed because it will show continuity and truly believing in building a foundation with our youth. Us making RJ our #1 option will pay dividends 10 years from now, granted we stick with the path of proving to everyone we’re committed to building our own.

As a disclaimer I hate the makeup of the team, everyone on the roster outside of Grimes & Cherry Picker can go but building with RJ as your main star shows the league we really do want to get our sh*t together at least for the public.

Will we suck? Absolutely.

A RJ led team will be in the lotto/play-in every year but the point is to show free agents and teams around the league we’re not a sh*t show that doesn’t want to re-sign their young talent.

I often find myself agreeing with you but do you think players care about that?

They don't care that KP, Frank and Knox got traded/let go by the Knicks, just like they didn't care about Will, Gallo and J. Hill. I doubt it's even on their radar.

The Kings resigned both Boogie and Fox and these were awful moves. Without results, I don't think NBA stars care about "continuity". They care about quality.

Honestly, no they don’t care & you make great points.

But the issue is how do you get results if no one wants to come to your team?

No one is coming in free agency, teams don’t want to help us in trades, we refuse to commit to a “true” rebuild/tank so what options left do we have?

[HEZI]

And that's also something you can say about a lot of NBA players.

Dion Waiters would have been a star with enough of an efficiency boost. That doesn't say much.

Every player in the NBA would see their percentages go up playing with Curry and Klay. It's not unique or rare.

Not everyone can be as good as Wiggins though and give that type of production. No way Waiters could do what Wiggins is doing especially from a size perspective. He wasnt on that level and couldn’t play the way the warriors play. Imo, RJ could become something like that pretty easily. Not saying it’s rare or unique, but simply something that’s valuable and very helpful.

We'll see.

I don't think Wiggins upside is out of the realm of possibility. He doesn't have the same tools though, especially as a defender and as a finisher.

My point about rare and unique was not about the Wiggins 3&D+ archetype but about the fact that every NBA player would likely be more efficient playing alongside Steph. It's not specific to Wiggins or hypothetically RJ.

In one paragraph you say RJ doesn’t have the tools to be a finisher like Wigging and in the next you call Wiggins a 3&D player. You are actually contradicting yourself because you know Wiggins brings a lot more versatility to his game than just 3&D

[HEZI]

RJ like Wiggins is a high IQ player that can play in a system where there is ball movement and spacing. Knicks should focus on that

[HEZI]

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I normally don’t pay much attention to plus minus but this passes the eye test. Nobody has been able to do this to Luka especially in the playoffs where he’s been a beast the last few years. Welcome to Wiggins island Luka

[Guano]

Not even close!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought you didn’t do dope on sundays????????!!!!!!!!!!!

Be better nodope!!!!!!!!!!!

BE BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In a month you'll be saying they are the best team of the last 5 years and that you and you alone said they were this good.

Lots of posters coming around to My Warriors.

3toheadWiggens will be showing up next round

[Capn'O]

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I need DFS and Vanderbilt back. Thanks in advance.

[Guano]

going to be hard for the heat to win if they don't score any points

[DOT]

going to be hard for the heat to win if they don't score any points

Source?

[Guano]

going to be hard for the heat to win if they don't score any points

Source?

trust me bro

[DOT]

[HEZI]

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I need DFS and Vanderbilt back. Thanks in advance.

I plan on keeping both but will listen to all offers as usual

[HarthorneWingo]

Is there something wrong with the scoreboard?

[TheGreenArrow]

The nba is in trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The 3point era has ruined basketball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Way too many blowouts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[3toheadmelo]

going to be hard for the heat to win if they don't score any points

3toheadtatum biatch!!!!

[EricAnderson]

These conference finals have been awful

I feel like the Heat were corner getting one game in Boston

NBA is the only sport where it seems teams take playoff games off and are content just taking home court back