knicks lose....i blame mpharris who blames thibs

[The KnicksFix]

First game against a contender we are at complete full health and went into overtime and we still cant take any positives out of it

Welcome to being a Knick fan and welcome to realgm, have you had a tour?

[The KnicksFix]

Our guys don't communicate on defense, not until the damage is already done, and they don't know when to switch. It's almost like we've spent an entire season not switching on defense.












This is all coaching, the players running into each other, not knowing what to do in the 79th game of the season and the 4th one against this team is comical. The first one in particular Mitch should have been on Brown, when you have KAT and Mitch on the floor together, you don't put your rim protector on the 40% shooter when there's a 33% shooter with a gimpy knee on the floor. Nobody knows what to do, they look shocked that the Celtics actually pass up driving to kick out to the skyscraper that hits threes.


It's been two years of exactly the same thing, over and over, they demolished us from three last year the same way they have done this season. KP joining that team has broken Thibs defense.

Thibs got real lucky he had Deng and Noah to do this insane run to the paint run back in time to cover the guy scheme.

This is a clear lack of understanding his own personnel and not paying attention to detail.

He literally approaches every game the same way and doesn't adjust unless he gets his teeth kicked in.

And therein lies the problem
His lack of adjustment after even the first gif is a joke.
Thibs is by far the stupidest coach of the top ten teams.
This all comes down to coaching. Inexcusable.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks need to trade Lance Hart

[LFGK]

All the negativity idk why some ppl are even Knick fans man. I swear some would rather us lose so they could complain rather then us win.

[HopelessKnick]

All the negativity idk why some ppl are even Knick fans man. I swear some would rather us lose so they could complain rather then us win.

It's not like the Knicks were the worst team in the league for 20 years. And now, after the recent turnaround our FO traded literally all our assets in hopes of title contention just to go 0-10 against other title contenders. And then when after 10 games we finally see a close game against a title contender (without their second best player mostly) we are reminded that we still have a coach that has no business coaching against other elite coaches and we are likely stuck with him for another season.

So yeah I can completely understand the frustration....

[NoStatsGuy]

All the negativity idk why some ppl are even Knick fans man. I swear some would rather us lose so they could complain rather then us win.

luckily this forum is only a small samplesize of knicksfandom. and specifically the knicks forum since i am here, and i was here before my signup date, just as a lurker without account, doesnt know anything other than dividing the community, hating on the coach or scapegoat players. the mood around the knicks forum is always kinda moody. except last year, last year was an outlier. of course people were already bashing thibs then, but the majority was still excited about the season and was in a wait and see state with thibs.

but overall we gotta understand, people like us who spend some of their freetime to go to an internet forum for interaction with other knicks fans are exceptional passionate about the team and are verry invested. therefore the opinions and debates come across much stronger.

im down to move on from thibs, but i also dont completely blame thibs. and i will always respect and appreciate him for dragging us out of the mud, even before brunson was here.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks need to trade Hart because Thibs can’t be trusted with players like Hart. So it’s either trade Hart or fire Thibs.

I’d say both but I’m not a negative person

[Gravy]

All season long I heard that Mitch would not make a 30 pt difference in us getting blown out by the top teams. But as soon as the team is healthy for only the 2nd game all year we take the Celtics to overtime in a toss up game. The roster was a much bigger issue than y'all wanted to believe.

[LFGK]

All the negativity idk why some ppl are even Knick fans man. I swear some would rather us lose so they could complain rather then us win.

It's not like the Knicks were the worst team in the league for 20 years. And now, after the recent turnaround our FO traded literally all our assets in hopes of title contention just to go 0-10 against other title contenders. And then when after 10 games we finally see a close game against a title contender (without their second best player mostly) we are reminded that we still have a coach that has no business coaching against other elite coaches and we are likely stuck with him for another season.

So yeah I can completely understand the frustration....

so year one of this team being together and we know how this team will do the next 4-5 years all because of that 0-10 record, got it

[spree8]

All season long I heard that Mitch would not make a 30 pt difference in us getting blown out by the top teams. But as soon as the team is healthy for only the 2nd game all year we take the Celtics to overtime in a toss up game. The roster was a much bigger issue than y'all wanted to believe.

You’re right about the roster being an issue, but you got the wrong team… they didn’t have Jaylen Brown and Horford

[3toheadmelo]

Whether you believe our issues are a roster or coaching issue.. all you can do is hope that the team shocks us in the playoffs

[TKKnicks1]

Knicks need to trade Hart because Thibs can’t be trusted with players like Hart. So it’s either trade Hart or fire Thibs.

I’d say both but I’m not a negative person

Hart is a perfect high energy bench player. Every team needs one. I'm not a Thibs hater by any means but logic tells me to fire Thibs.

[Gravy]

All season long I heard that Mitch would not make a 30 pt difference in us getting blown out by the top teams. But as soon as the team is healthy for only the 2nd game all year we take the Celtics to overtime in a toss up game. The roster was a much bigger issue than y'all wanted to believe.

You’re right about the roster being an issue, but you got the wrong team… they didn’t have Jaylen Brown and Horford

They won the championship without KP that's how deep they are. If you think both teams are equal that's the problem

[LFGK]

All season long I heard that Mitch would not make a 30 pt difference in us getting blown out by the top teams. But as soon as the team is healthy for only the 2nd game all year we take the Celtics to overtime in a toss up game. The roster was a much bigger issue than y'all wanted to believe.

you beat me to this, every time I said Mitch, "30 point difference doesn't come from 1 guy being out" pretty clear it does.

[Gravy]

All the negativity idk why some ppl are even Knick fans man. I swear some would rather us lose so they could complain rather then us win.

This place is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. But the ridiculousness can be entertaining sometimes. Never forget to remind yourself... they stanned Frank for 5 years and Kolek is Steve Nash!!

[DOT]

Imagine calling others ridiculous when you're constantly talking about a guy who hasn't been on the team in 5 years

Actually, the wilder one is saying everyone else is being negative when you still can't get over someone who, again, hasn't been on the team in 5 years. Like, I would think if you wanted to be positive you would talk about the current team, not guys you hate who haven't been on the team for years

You don't see me bringing up Elfrid Payton and Alec Burks every other post lol

Some people just can't move on I guess.

[TKKnicks1]

All season long I heard that Mitch would not make a 30 pt difference in us getting blown out by the top teams. But as soon as the team is healthy for only the 2nd game all year we take the Celtics to overtime in a toss up game. The roster was a much bigger issue than y'all wanted to believe.

you beat me to this, every time I said Mitch, "30 point difference doesn't come from 1 guy being out" pretty clear it does.

Man you guys are delusional. Sure Mitch was an impact but let's be real he played 16 minutes out of a possible 53. He wasn't the difference maker. Knicks went to KAT early and finally in game 79 of the damn season Thibs lets KAT post up the smaller defenders and it worked wonders. KAT single handedly kept us going for 3 quarters. The Knicks offense and aggressiveness looked different last game than what we have seen all season. That was the difference maker.

To be honest if you can package Mitch and Mikal in the off-season for Booker or the likes then you gotta do it.

[prophet_of_rage]

All season long I heard that Mitch would not make a 30 pt difference in us getting blown out by the top teams. But as soon as the team is healthy for only the 2nd game all year we take the Celtics to overtime in a toss up game. The roster was a much bigger issue than y'all wanted to believe.

you beat me to this, every time I said Mitch, "30 point difference doesn't come from 1 guy being out" pretty clear it does.

Man you guys are delusional. Sure Mitch was an impact but let's be real he played 16 minutes out of a possible 53. He wasn't the difference maker. Knicks went to KAT early and finally in game 79 of the damn season Thibs lets KAT post up the smaller defenders and it worked wonders. KAT single handedly kept us going for 3 quarters. The Knicks offense and aggressiveness looked different last game than what we have seen all season. That was the difference maker.

To be honest if you can package Mitch and Mikal in the off-season for Booker or the likes then you gotta do it.

True. This obsessiin with collecting the Infinity Stones (Nova Knicks) was never a good idea.

KAT for Randle was fine. Getting Mikal was suspect. But ar least OG is creating some offensive vari

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[nedleeds]

Feels like we have to much nepotism going for that to happen.... though they shipped Dolans guy Randle outta here so who knows.

Leon looks like the kinda guy who would kill his young protege that saved his life at the end of a series to tie up a loose end. So im still hopeful he will do the right thing here.

Leon looks like a clown planet player agent cosplaying as an NBA talent evaluator. The only reason Randle got traded is they were able to find a CAA player to trade him for.



We had league high cap space and Celtics had a look at Evan Fournier and were like ... year we're good. Leon Rose is a like ... 3+1 come on in.

[Fury]

you beat me to this, every time I said Mitch, "30 point difference doesn't come from 1 guy being out" pretty clear it does.

Man you guys are delusional. Sure Mitch was an impact but let's be real he played 16 minutes out of a possible 53. He wasn't the difference maker. Knicks went to KAT early and finally in game 79 of the damn season Thibs lets KAT post up the smaller defenders and it worked wonders. KAT single handedly kept us going for 3 quarters. The Knicks offense and aggressiveness looked different last game than what we have seen all season. That was the difference maker.

To be honest if you can package Mitch and Mikal in the off-season for Booker or the likes then you gotta do it.

True. This obsessiin with collecting the Infinity Stones (Nova Knicks) was never a good idea.

KAT for Randle was fine. Getting Mikal was suspect. But ar least OG is creating some offensive vari

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I admit that I was wrong about the synergy that Mikal playing with the other Nova boys would bring. Maybe it would've been different with Donte here since he's a shooter, and Mikal would've been playing alongside him instead of Hart. I do think that was the price for him at the time, Houston was offering that + the Knicks tax. But so far it hasn't been worth it. He needs a good playoffs or he's probably out of here, and that could change things cause then Brunson loses a little bit of that Nova power, which may be a good thing in the long run.

I still think this team, as it is, can make some noise but it needs to find balance, and while I think Thibs can do something about that with his substitution patterns, the truth is, it's on Jalen Brunson. The reason why the Nova playoff Knicks looked good in the playoffs is because the people around him were perfectly suited for Brunson's offensive game. Now you got guys like KAT and Bridgers who need more looks, and now OG has made his case, it's up to Brunson not to hog up the ball. It reminds me of Iverson and how well he played with a bunch of defensive players and wasn't as effective with other scorers. Brunson needs to adjust.