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Manhattan Project wrote:Bobby did help Odd Future with some exposure, hell most Bob fans didn't even know it was a diss until they read it somewhere. I don't think it's anything major or anything like that but he did get them a few fans. However ever since the Jimmy Fallon performance there has been a steady rise in popularity, add the 2dopeboyz comments as well.
Manhattan Project wrote:Bobby did help Odd Future with some exposure, hell most Bob fans didn't even know it was a diss until they read it somewhere. I don't think it's anything major or anything like that but he did get them a few fans. However ever since the Jimmy Fallon performance there has been a steady rise in popularity, add the 2dopeboyz comments as well.
ManualRam wrote:j4remi wrote:ManualRam wrote:nope, im just saying their popularity amongst hipsters and their crossover appeal is nothing new. they've gotten plenty of ink in all those rags and have been a staple amongst the "hypebeast" community. i'm also reiterating that BOB has nothing and will have nothing to do with the popularity of OF. thats all.
And I'm straight up saying, I've witnessed a whole faction of kids I know and associate with suddenly flood my Home Page with Tyler and Earl youtubes post BOB...They're hipsters but they didn't know who these cats were last week. I'm not saying B.O.B. put these cats on the map, but it's clear that these 18-22 yr old hipster and techno heads with limited hip hop knowledge are jumping on a train randomly...and it's not like they're all in one group. OF was not and is not all that popular, they have a small cult following. You're acting like they're a big deal.
no im not.
i just appreciate their movement and am noting the recognition theyre getting with no help of pop acts like BOB or kanye. i hope they succeed so this fairy sht thats hot right dies off.
they are the anti-BOB/lupe/j-cole/kanye/drake/big sean.
their **** is extreme but i hope they usher back in a grittiness/edginess back into the game that i think is sorely missing.
ManualRam wrote:and all im saying is that i dont think BOB gained him any fans. name recognition maybe, but not much.
their fan bases are on the far opposite ends of the spectrum, so i dont think the BOB "diss" created any converts at all.
like i said, the song was so bad it wasnt even a blip on the radar screen. tyler didnt know how to react, and like many fans, he didnt even know if it was a diss or not.
j4remi wrote:ManualRam wrote:j4remi wrote:
And I'm straight up saying, I've witnessed a whole faction of kids I know and associate with suddenly flood my Home Page with Tyler and Earl youtubes post BOB...They're hipsters but they didn't know who these cats were last week. I'm not saying B.O.B. put these cats on the map, but it's clear that these 18-22 yr old hipster and techno heads with limited hip hop knowledge are jumping on a train randomly...and it's not like they're all in one group. OF was not and is not all that popular, they have a small cult following. You're acting like they're a big deal.
no im not.
i just appreciate their movement and am noting the recognition theyre getting with no help of pop acts like BOB or kanye. i hope they succeed so this fairy sht thats hot right dies off.
they are the anti-BOB/lupe/j-cole/kanye/drake/big sean.
their **** is extreme but i hope they usher back in a grittiness/edginess back into the game that i think is sorely missing.
See, I don't mind them bringing back grittiness or edginess to hip hop...but let's be honest...they're not the ones to do it if Raekwon couldn't last year. LOX are making a push, maybe they can. These guys have a niche imo. That's it. They aren't particularly great at anything, they're just unique in this day and age.
You're lumping in a bunch of new artists who aren't all that similar btw. I get what you're saying...I don't see much wrong with J. Cole/Lupe/Kanye...add Wale to that. I do have a problem with BOB and Drake going pop and Big Sean is completely wack to me. If they really went on a bar for bar though, I think a lot of those poppish emcees could rap circles around the wolf gang and are more musical for sure. Grittiness though, them cats are def the kings of...Idk why, I get a horror core vibe from these Odd Future dudes. I like them when I need a change of pace, but I couldn't bump them consistently at all.
ManualRam wrote:
OF, outside of earl (and maybe mike g), arent about being "lyrical miracle" rappers, so you're probably right. tyler's mostly focused on production, pissing people off, creating an evil vibe and establishing the OF brand. more musical? i dunno. for a 19 y/o, tyler's knowledge of music in general is vast and he's only scratching the surface behind the boards. i think he has immense potential on the production tip. also because of his appreciation for other genres of music, i think he'll be able to branch out beyond the "urban music" scene.
Manhattan Project wrote:Camp Lo and Pete Rock mixtape.
j4remi wrote:Manhattan Project wrote:Camp Lo and Pete Rock mixtape.
I gotta get my hands on this.
Manhattan Project wrote:j4remi wrote:Manhattan Project wrote:Camp Lo and Pete Rock mixtape.
I gotta get my hands on this.
http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2011/03/29/cam ... s-mixtape/
Manhattan Project wrote:My favorite one from him
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx_vEkVn5Ic[/youtube]
j4remi wrote:
He's madd talented...pure entertainer...but I like him better as a comedy writer to be completely honest.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebAG6CPonU[/youtube]