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GnarlesOakley · Post #581 » by **GnarlesOakley** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:27 pm

Melo is a chucker, you can win with chuckers though - See Kobe Bryant. Like Melo and unlike Jordan, Kobe is in love with his own circus shots. Though the big difference is that Kobe gives it his all on D. But really there is something to learn there - get a coach and teammates that the chucker is forced to respect and you force the chucker to find boundaries. Melo has tried to facilitate but he's just not smart enough of a player to do so, he has tunnel vision.

Stat and Melo is probably the worst possible "star" combination possible. As overpaid as Amare is he is an ideal second option with a lot of the league's best - put him next to a Lebron, Wade or Durant, or any great point guard and he will thrive. But Dolan was so obsessed with finding a flashy messiah that he managed to put together the one combination that doesn't work.

Post #582 » by **knicks742** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:30 pm

Gallinari and Mozgov had awesome games. the beautiful thing is that they did their damanage within the flow of the offense. you never felt they were forcing it and when ninja turtle got hot in the second half, they just kept looking for him. Just beautiful and smart basketball.

Our "superstars" blew as usual. our coach blows. not much else to say. we simply are not a good team and i hope our pick is top 3 or something or there is going to be insult added to injury when the rockets get a lottery pick out of their trade with us.

Clyde_Style · Post #583 » by **Clyde_Style** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:49 pm

NoMoreThrees wrote:this was not a good game. this was game where knicks play good one half cause of the whole prove the trade wasnt bad bit. that motivate for one half. and without walker playing career game we prolly lose by double digits end of 4th q. u put that together and this was no okay see we went to ot so the team is doin much better. this was wow they needed to motivate by tryin to prove the trade was good and that only work for one half and it only work cause walker was crazy good for one quarter. and wow they coulda played harder the other games but didnt and only did cause of the trade stuff. wow thats really bad signs. and it is. this team is soooooo screwed now. buncha lazy wusses

just curious NoMoreThrees, but are you by any chance related to NoMorePunctuation?

Clyde_Style · Post #584 » by **Clyde_Style** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:53 pm

dk7th wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Red Vines wrote:
It's hard to know exactly what Melo saw during that play, I doubt he saw both players open at the same time and chose to go 1 on 3. As the clock was winding down all 3 defenders closed in on him. It's not like we're experienced playing together and everyone knows what to do in that situation.

Also it's the job of his teammates to let him know that they are open. Not just so Melo is aware but also to at least help pull the defenders away from him. Don't think either guy said a thing. Didn't hear it. Heard plenty of squeaking of sneakers from the 3 defenders around him.

oh

my

god

How about if Melo wears a beeper during the game and everyone else on the floor carries a cell phone and gives him a call when they're open?

Clyde_Style · Post #585 » by **Clyde_Style** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:56 pm

knicks742 wrote:Gallinari and Mozgov had awesome games. the beautiful thing is that they did their damanage within the flow of the offense. you never felt they were forcing it and when ninja turtle got hot in the second half, they just kept looking for him. Just beautiful and smart basketball.

Our "superstars" blew as usual. our coach blows. not much else to say. we simply are not a good team and i hope our pick is top 3 or something or there is going to be insult added to injury when the rockets get a lottery pick out of their trade with us.

If we kept Mozgov, we could have paid up for a real PG instead of signing Tyson. I like Tyson, but this is now looking ridiculous.

Post #586 » by **duetta** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:01 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:If we kept Mozgov, we could have paid up for a real PG instead of signing Tyson. I like Tyson, but this is now looking ridiculous.

Exactly. Chandler is a solid player, and a great guy to have on your team. But Mozgov is much cheaper, wouldn't involve having to waste the amnesty, a better fit for the D'Antoni offense (for as long as that matters), etc.

When Denver started insisting on Mozgov being in the deal, they knew that they had a sucker on the line, and were attempt to fleece him for everything in his pockets.

Post #587 » by **knicks742** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:03 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
knicks742 wrote:Gallinari and Mozgov had awesome games. the beautiful thing is that they did their damanage within the flow of the offense. you never felt they were forcing it and when ninja turtle got hot in the second half, they just kept looking for him. Just beautiful and smart basketball.

Our "superstars" blew as usual. our coach blows. not much else to say. we simply are not a good team and i hope our pick is top 3 or something or there is going to be insult added to injury when the rockets get a lottery pick out of their trade with us.

If we kept Mozgov, we could have paid up for a real PG instead of signing Tyson. I like Tyson, but this is now looking ridiculous.

the moment we made that trade i said that giving up mozgov was unnecessary and we should have never done that. adding him to the trade was an idiotic move. he is starting for a team that is a top team in the west. brutal trade.

god shammgod · Post #588 » by **god shammgod** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:07 pm

besides wilson chandler, we have upgraded every other player in that trade and in no time at all.

Starksmadness · Post #589 » by **Starksmadness** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:07 pm

Someone said it perfectly the other day. So we went from a bottom tier team filled with overpaid and overrated players mired in cap hell, to a team that cleared out all it's bad contracts which had cap space and young talent, back to a bottom tier team filled with overpaid and overrated players mired in cap hell.

TKF · Post #590 » by **TKF** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:08 pm

duetta wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:If we kept Mozgov, we could have paid up for a real PG instead of signing Tyson. I like Tyson, but this is now looking ridiculous.

Exactly. Chandler is a solid player, and a great guy to have on your team. But Mozgov is much cheaper, wouldn't involve having to waste the amnesty, a better fit for the D'Antoni offense (for as long as that matters), etc.

When Denver started insisting on Mozgov being in the deal, they knew that they had a sucker on the line, and were attempt to fleece him for everything in his pockets.

lol... I agree 100% duetta, it really got ridiculous... I mean denver , honestly , probably knew nothing of moz, except that he was a 7 foot tall russian, but they were like, since dumb, drunken jimmy wants our best player, we will take them for everything they have... "yea, give us the tall russian guy, that gyro stand on the corner of 34th st, free tickets to every event at radio city music hall, that mansion in the hamptons, free cable vision subscription(even though it doesn't service the denver area).......etc......"

LOL.. it just went on and on, and on.. and dumb jimmy aquiesced.....

Post #591 » by **knicks742** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:09 pm

god shammgod wrote:besides wilson chandler, we have upgraded every other player in that trade and in no time at all.

How is that working out for us?

Starksmadness · Post #592 » by **Starksmadness** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:09 pm

god shammgod wrote:besides wilson chandler, we have upgraded every other player in that trade and in no time at all.

Faulty way of thinking. Joe Johnson would be an upgrade to this team at his position. Would you want him and that max contract?

Knicker23 · Post #593 » by **Knicker23** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:10 pm

Shoulda coulda woulda if this that and the other..

We forced double OT against "one of the best teams in the league" where there "best player" had a career night... Our best player couldnt throw the ball in the ocean for most of the game, and our second best player didn't take a single shot after half.... All without a PG, that well be getting soon.

Sorry, not impressed.

TKF · Post #594 » by **TKF** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:10 pm

Starksmadness wrote:
god shammgod wrote:besides wilson chandler, we have upgraded every other player in that trade and in no time at all.

Faulty way of thinking. Joe Johnson would be an upgrade to this team at his position. Would you want him and that max contract?

bingo.!

god shammgod · Post #595 » by **god shammgod** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:11 pm

Starksmadness wrote:
god shammgod wrote:besides wilson chandler, we have upgraded every other player in that trade and in no time at all.

Faulty way of thinking. Joe Johnson would be an upgrade to this team at his position. Would you want him and that max contract?

if i could trade landry fields for him. absolutely.

TKF · Post #596 » by **TKF** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:11 pm

Knicker23 wrote:Shoulda coulda woulda if this that and the other..

We forced double OT against "one of the best teams in the league" where there "best player" had a career night... Our best player couldnt throw the ball in the ocean for most of the game, and our second best player didn't take a single shot after half.... All without a PG, that well be getting soon.

Sorry, not impressed.

and why are they one of the best team in the league and we are one of the worst?

god shammgod · Post #597 » by **god shammgod** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:13 pm

knicks742 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:besides wilson chandler, we have upgraded every other player in that trade and in no time at all.

How is that working out for us?

it's too early to say. it's easy to crow now but it's meaningless. wait till the playoffs to say something.

TKF · Post #598 » by **TKF** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:13 pm

knicks742 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
knicks742 wrote:Gallinari and Mozgov had awesome games. the beautiful thing is that they did their damanage within the flow of the offense. you never felt they were forcing it and when ninja turtle got hot in the second half, they just kept looking for him. Just beautiful and smart basketball.

Our "superstars" blew as usual. our coach blows. not much else to say. we simply are not a good team and i hope our pick is top 3 or something or there is going to be insult added to injury when the rockets get a lottery pick out of their trade with us.

If we kept Mozgov, we could have paid up for a real PG instead of signing Tyson. I like Tyson, but this is now looking ridiculous.

the moment we made that trade i said that giving up mozgov was unnecessary and we should have never done that. adding him to the trade was an idiotic move. he is starting for a team that is a top team in the west. brutal trade.

this trade is making the eddy curry trade almost look good.. Honestly, this may go down as one of the worst trades in History.... the Herschel walker trade comes to mind here...

TKF · Post #599 » by **TKF** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:14 pm

god shammgod wrote:
knicks742 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:besides wilson chandler, we have upgraded every other player in that trade and in no time at all.

How is that working out for us?

it's too early to say. it's easy to crow now but it's meaningless. wait till the playoffs to say something.

sham at this rate the lottery is more likely than playoffs man.. real talk....

Rasho Brezec · Post #600 » by **Rasho Brezec** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:14 pm

god shammgod wrote:
knicks742 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:besides wilson chandler, we have upgraded every other player in that trade and in no time at all.

How is that working out for us?

it's too early to say. it's easy to crow now but it's meaningless. wait till the playoffs to say something.

If we keep this up there won't be any playoffs.