OFFICIAL: Welcome BACK to New York THJr (4/71m)

[EchelonNYK]

Sounds like hardaway wants to be a leader

The man just got paid. Of course he's going to be saying all the right things. Wake up.

[knickstape4ever]

posted this in the FA thread but as long as we're bring back players, might as well take a flyer on DWill. He played well for us, and seems to fit the new vision of this team: young, athletic, can run. I think he'd do well off the bench in Hornacek's system. Horny talks a lot about getting buckets in transition, and thats definitely something DWill can do. For the minimum, I'd definitely take a flyer on him, plus he played probably his best ball for us. I was actually pretty upset that we let him walk (even tho he did opt out) and went with Kuz instead. He's currently working out with Brickley like LT and Timmy...and Melo

[F N 11]

Sounds like hardaway wants to be a leader

The man just got paid. Of course he's going to be saying all the right things. Wake up.

No he's actually matured. Do you not know what happened in Atl? also he's older and wiser. Why wouldn't he want to be a leader? This is the guy that told Melo to grab a F'in rebound. Why yall so negative here. Stop pocket watching. This is a unique opportunity for a young player.

[2010]

posted this in the FA thread but as long as we're bring back players, might as well take a flyer on DWill. He played well for us, and seems to fit the new vision of this team: young, athletic, can run. I think he'd do well off the bench in Hornacek's system. Horny talks a lot about getting buckets in transition, and thats definitely something DWill can do. For the minimum, I'd definitely take a flyer on him, plus he played probably his best ball for us. I was actually pretty upset that we let him walk (even tho he did opt out) and went with Kuz instead. He's currently working out with Brickley like LT and Timmy...and Melo

Brickley is essentially our one-man G-League developmental resource.

[knickstape4ever]

posted this in the FA thread but as long as we're bring back players, might as well take a flyer on DWill. He played well for us, and seems to fit the new vision of this team: young, athletic, can run. I think he'd do well off the bench in Hornacek's system. Horny talks a lot about getting buckets in transition, and thats definitely something DWill can do. For the minimum, I'd definitely take a flyer on him, plus he played probably his best ball for us. I was actually pretty upset that we let him walk (even tho he did opt out) and went with Kuz instead. He's currently working out with Brickley like LT and Timmy...and Melo

Brickley is essentially our one-man G-League developmental resource.

i'd try to hire him back, but i assume he's making serious $$$ working out NBA players and prospects

[god shammgod]

some nice stuff from atl about timmy

LAS VEGAS – In Tim Hardaway Jr.’s two years in Atlanta, the Hawks say he grew up first as a person and a professional, then as a player.

Now the Knicks will be the ones benefiting from his new maturity.

“We wanted to work something out with him … [but] I’m just happy for him,’’ Hawks coach Mike Budenholzer told The Post on Monday. “This league, you’re never really sure how things are going to work out, and the way he’s worked, the time he’s put in, I’m happy for him. He deserves everything he gets. So we’ll miss him, but he did great work with us and we’re proud of him.”

Hardaway received a four-year, $71 million deal from the Knicks. It’s a far cry from when he first was traded to the Hawks two years ago. He averaged just 6.4 points that disappointing first season, in 2015-16, rode the bench for long stretches and even was demoted at times to the developmental league. But eventually all the tough love he got paid off.

“He was in a great environment, a lot of great teammates. The assistant coaches, including our APT [athletic performance training] staff, they all put their arms around him,” Budenholzer said. “And it was a bit of both: tough love and a few hugs here and there from teammates, coaches, myself. But he deserves the credit. He took it all like a champ.

“Yeah, he grew a ton. It started with he made a great commitment to his body and to his conditioning. He just got a lot stronger, got in elite shape to compete. And on the defensive end, he made huge strides. That’s what got him on the court. Offensively, he just kept growing. He’s so much more than a shooter. He can score at all three different levels: He can score at the rim, he can score in the midrange, get to the line, 3s, transition. He’s just really a dynamic young player.”

Last season, Hardaway, 25, averaged 14.5 points — and that ticked up to 17.5 points in 30 games as a starter. Former Hawks teammate Taurean Prince told The Post he could see the growth in Hardaway over the past year.

“It started with his growth as a person off the court,” said Prince, a rookie last season. “He treated people well, was always laughing, giving, respectful, held himself to a high standard as far as being a professional and being on time, being on the court early.

“Those things made him a better player, so without those things I don’t think he progresses as much as he would’ve if he didn’t show up on time or didn’t get in the extra work he puts in. That’s just credit to him being the professional he is.

“I’m still going to keep in contact with Tim. He’s still going to be a great friend. … Appreciate everything he did for me personally as far as just being the professional he was. I was a sponge. Whether he knows it or not, he really helped me, so I’m sure he’ll bring that same aura to New York.”

http://www.nypost.com/2017/07/11/hawks-will-miss-the-version-of-tim-hardaway-jr-they-created/

[Fury]

some nice stuff from atl about timmy

LAS VEGAS – In Tim Hardaway Jr.’s two years in Atlanta, the Hawks say he grew up first as a person and a professional, then as a player.

Now the Knicks will be the ones benefiting from his new maturity.

“We wanted to work something out with him … [but] I’m just happy for him,’’ Hawks coach Mike Budenholzer told The Post on Monday. “This league, you’re never really sure how things are going to work out, and the way he’s worked, the time he’s put in, I’m happy for him. He deserves everything he gets. So we’ll miss him, but he did great work with us and we’re proud of him.”

Hardaway received a four-year, $71 million deal from the Knicks. It’s a far cry from when he first was traded to the Hawks two years ago. He averaged just 6.4 points that disappointing first season, in 2015-16, rode the bench for long stretches and even was demoted at times to the developmental league. But eventually all the tough love he got paid off.

“He was in a great environment, a lot of great teammates. The assistant coaches, including our APT [athletic performance training] staff, they all put their arms around him,” Budenholzer said. “And it was a bit of both: tough love and a few hugs here and there from teammates, coaches, myself. But he deserves the credit. He took it all like a champ.

“Yeah, he grew a ton. It started with he made a great commitment to his body and to his conditioning. He just got a lot stronger, got in elite shape to compete. And on the defensive end, he made huge strides. That’s what got him on the court. Offensively, he just kept growing. He’s so much more than a shooter. He can score at all three different levels: He can score at the rim, he can score in the midrange, get to the line, 3s, transition. He’s just really a dynamic young player.”

Last season, Hardaway, 25, averaged 14.5 points — and that ticked up to 17.5 points in 30 games as a starter. Former Hawks teammate Taurean Prince told The Post he could see the growth in Hardaway over the past year.

“It started with his growth as a person off the court,” said Prince, a rookie last season. “He treated people well, was always laughing, giving, respectful, held himself to a high standard as far as being a professional and being on time, being on the court early.

“Those things made him a better player, so without those things I don’t think he progresses as much as he would’ve if he didn’t show up on time or didn’t get in the extra work he puts in. That’s just credit to him being the professional he is.

“I’m still going to keep in contact with Tim. He’s still going to be a great friend. … Appreciate everything he did for me personally as far as just being the professional he was. I was a sponge. Whether he knows it or not, he really helped me, so I’m sure he’ll bring that same aura to New York.”

http://www.nypost.com/2017/07/11/hawks-will-miss-the-version-of-tim-hardaway-jr-they-created/

At around the same age,in a similar situation, Joe Johnson put it together. Hope it turns out like that for us.

[Oscirus]

Hardaway is being groomed to take over GM duties for Allan Houston in 2030

So Houston's getting fired after one year on the job? Harsh.

[Buttah304]

What bothers me most is that I get the feeling people think we are getting Jamal Crawford 2.0 all over again. He was 25 when he came to MSG.

But Jamal was never humbled like Timmy. I don't recall him ever early in his career getting broken down to essentially become the player he was supposed to be. He never improved on defense. Yes he is in good shape (age 37 now) but didn't have the frame like THJ does. In 04-05 (year he came to the Knicks) he had an abysmal 52.1 TS% and the year PRIOR it was a mind numbing 48.6 TS%. That's who the Knicks actually thought was wise to invest in.

If you don't want to support THJ that's fine. If you fear handing out another long term contract I get it. But don't come to thread talking as if you can actually access his game. Way too many people are making shock value statements that have not an ounce of substance. We're the Knicks so history says HE WONT be worth the contract. But I'm of the mindset that at age 25 he might be able to finally put the pieces of his game together in a linear fashion. This can especially happen if Melo is finally off the roster and we can have a more efficient/well balanced offensive approach.

Ntilikina-THJ-KP-Willy should be exciting for fans. But I have this sad feeling that too many people who have been burned far too long get more excitement out of saying "I told you so."

[seren]

So I am reading the Baker news from ESPN and here is what it says about THJ:
"The contract has been met with shock inside and outside the organization, according to ESPN's Wojnarowski and Ramona Shelburne."

Emphasis on inside part please.

With all the soap opera going on with this team, I will not even be surprised if Hardaway is traded before season starts. We still have no idea who gave him that contract and whoever ends up controlling this team will actually back up the dude.v

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[Traveyknicks23]

So I am reading the Baker news from ESPN and here is what it says about THJ:
"The contract has been met with shock inside and outside the organization, according to ESPN's Wojnarowski and Ramona Shelburne."

Emphasis on inside part please.

With all the soap opera going on with this team, I will not even be surprised if Hardaway is traded before season starts. We still have no idea who gave him that contract and whoever ends up controlling this team will actually back up the dude.v

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Ain't getting traded so shut it down now

[BLACKFEET 2010]

If the Knicks had any intention of replacing Mills, this deal makes even less sense. In fact, according to a source, the robust commitment to Hardaway Jr. was one of the reasons Griffin decided against continuing his pursuit of the GM opening.

From a Daily News article I refuse to post (in it's entirety).
I do not buy this at all.
So Griffin came to an interview and told the guy interviewing him he wants him to fire all his guys, not have say on anything basketball related and criticizes the guy's first major move?
I really hate the media and the way they make everything a damn soap opera.

[FreeSpiritNY]

THJR

He is going to surprise a lot of you this year.

THJR!!!

MELO GRAB A FKIN REBOUND ....

THJR is going to be the vocal leader and leader of this team just watch

[alseca]

Thought this was a very good writeup on why we should be optimistic!

https://www.reddit.com/r/NYKnicks/comments/6m39qf/tim_hardaway_jr_could_be_the_next_big_thing/





Team Timmy!

[BeagleBoss]

I'm still pissed. Atlanta wouldn't have matched a $55M package.

[Orange Mamba]

Watch on YouTube

A few THJ highlights vs Harden and CP3. Drew League

[2010]

Watch on YouTube

A few THJ highlights vs Harden and CP3. Drew League

Harden looking brolic.

THJr. looked good...

[Knicksfan20]

I'm still pissed. Atlanta wouldn't have matched a $55M package.

Sauce?

[Dr. Detfink]

Can't wait to read who the forum dogs blame when the Knicks playing a B-level D'Antoni offense scores 115 pts but allows 135 pts night in and out.

[Knicks93]

Can't wait to read who the forum dogs blame when the Knicks playing a B-level D'Antoni offense scores 115 pts but allows 135 pts night in and out.

There is absolutely no way the defense gets worse when the only change so far was losing Derrick Rose and getting hardaway. Should be even better once Carmelo is gone. Only way we let up any where near 110 a game is if we are running the court out of our minds.