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NoLayupRule wrote:i wonder if Ja will be be able to defend in the nba despite his weight because of these anti-touching rules
I dont have high hopes for his defensive impact but its possible he could be a steals type defender and at least play competent team / rotational defense
Worst_to_First wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:King of Canada wrote:
Imagine passing on Luka
If bish held a redraft I would still take Ayton
Yeah I don’t think the Suns placed Ayton in a good position to succeed unlike what the Mavs and Hawks did for Luka and Trae.
Ayton needed a PG ala Towns did with Rubio. I recall that in KAT’s rookie year the Rubio-to-Towns was among the highest assist-to-points combo in the league.
The way to offset Ayton’s alleged deficiences in defense was to involve him more in the offense.
Despite everything Ayton was still able to put up solid numbers.
Selecting him was not the Suns’ mistake. It was their inability to fully unlock him. It is still not late though.
) or someone who can feed him. That will take his game to a whole new level. But at least the Suns are developing his defense nicely. I remember reading that Igor Kokosov has Ayton studying Rudy Gobert. So far it's helping him improve so that's good.
Juco24 wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:i wonder if Ja will be be able to defend in the nba despite his weight because of these anti-touching rules
I dont have high hopes for his defensive impact but its possible he could be a steals type defender and at least play competent team / rotational defense
For what it's worth... I thought the same about Trae and he surprised me
Tron Carter wrote:Juco24 wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:i wonder if Ja will be be able to defend in the nba despite his weight because of these anti-touching rules
I dont have high hopes for his defensive impact but its possible he could be a steals type defender and at least play competent team / rotational defense
For what it's worth... I thought the same about Trae and he surprised me
i hope you mean surprised you as in he’s even worse then he was projected
3toheadmelo wrote:Worst_to_First wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:If bish held a redraft I would still take Ayton
Yeah I don’t think the Suns placed Ayton in a good position to succeed unlike what the Mavs and Hawks did for Luka and Trae.
Ayton needed a PG ala Towns did with Rubio. I recall that in KAT’s rookie year the Rubio-to-Towns was among the highest assist-to-points combo in the league.
The way to offset Ayton’s alleged deficiences in defense was to involve him more in the offense.
Despite everything Ayton was still able to put up solid numbers.
Selecting him was not the Suns’ mistake. It was their inability to fully unlock him. It is still not late though.
Yeah I'm hoping they get a PG (Ja Morant
And peep this, I just saw this on twitter. He did this without a point guard. Sky's the limit for him
3toheadmelo wrote:awy wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:So you admitting you have not followed the suns this season. Good to know. Because what you described is how he played in October. Now I see why you think he never improved
i know he has improved but it’s still sporatic. he’s had good 1 on 1 games vs giannis/lebron because of his size and speed are great, but the suns are still very bad with him on the court defensively.
i’ll dig more into it later
It’s not sporadic. There has been consistent improvement throughout the season.
Suns are a bad defensive team with him or without him so that point is moot. If it was the opposite then the Suns would’ve went on a big winning streak to end the season when Ayton was out with an injury. Nobody is saying Ayton is a great defender but he has shown enough improvement to where you can project him to be an above average defensive anchor in the future. I am not sure why you compared him to Mitch in your previous post when no one thinks he is on the same level as him defensively either. Mitch is a legendary shot blocker/defender in the making while Ayton is not. Ayton is miles ahead on offense tho. That’s the difference between them two. Hoping we get James Wiseman next year since he basically has some traits of Ayton and Mitch together. Wiseman and Mitch is a scary front court
Juco24 wrote:NoLayupRule wrote:i wonder if Ja will be be able to defend in the nba despite his weight because of these anti-touching rules
I dont have high hopes for his defensive impact but its possible he could be a steals type defender and at least play competent team / rotational defense
For what it's worth... I thought the same about Trae and he surprised me
j4remi wrote:No one wants to coach St. John's smh.
Jeff Van Gully wrote:j4remi wrote:No one wants to coach St. John's smh.
tainted since jarvis. levin did a solid job.
damn shame. SJU should be a DESTINATION. but it's a testament to the global and national game that NYC is not the selling point it used to be.
...the NIT fam! Jeff Van Gully wrote:j4remi wrote:No one wants to coach St. John's smh.
tainted since jarvis. levin did a solid job.
damn shame. SJU should be a DESTINATION. but it's a testament to the global and national game that NYC is not the selling point it used to be.
Spree2Houston wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:j4remi wrote:No one wants to coach St. John's smh.
tainted since jarvis. levin did a solid job.
damn shame. SJU should be a DESTINATION. but it's a testament to the global and national game that NYC is not the selling point it used to be.
There's no real campus life there. It's a borderline commuter school.
Dantares wrote:Ok guys I was high on wendell carter, trae young, luka, sexton and mikal bridges last draft. I admit i was really high on Knox after he blew up in summer league, he had a rough year but I haven't given up hope he is still young. Given my great track record last year I am going to give you my prediction for this year. Deandre hunter, ja and Zion, hachimura will be studs. I speak truth.
Duke4life831 wrote:Dantares wrote:Ok guys I was high on wendell carter, trae young, luka, sexton and mikal bridges last draft. I admit i was really high on Knox after he blew up in summer league, he had a rough year but I haven't given up hope he is still young. Given my great track record last year I am going to give you my prediction for this year. Deandre hunter, ja and Zion, hachimura will be studs. I speak truth.
Im curious on why you think Rui will be a stud. I just don't see it at all on the NBA level. I kind of just see a slightly bigger but worse shooting Chandler Hutchinson. His lack of foot speed is going to kill him defensively and I just don't see him being a complete enough dominant offensive player to make up for his defensive deficiencies.
Dantares wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:Dantares wrote:Ok guys I was high on wendell carter, trae young, luka, sexton and mikal bridges last draft. I admit i was really high on Knox after he blew up in summer league, he had a rough year but I haven't given up hope he is still young. Given my great track record last year I am going to give you my prediction for this year. Deandre hunter, ja and Zion, hachimura will be studs. I speak truth.
Im curious on why you think Rui will be a stud. I just don't see it at all on the NBA level. I kind of just see a slightly bigger but worse shooting Chandler Hutchinson. His lack of foot speed is going to kill him defensively and I just don't see him being a complete enough dominant offensive player to make up for his defensive deficiencies.
I see rui as the prototypical modern day small ball 4 where his foot speed will be more than adequate. He is listed at 235 and we know most rookies that come into the league are able to gain another 10-15 pounds while becoming more explosive. I like his energy and the way he seeks contact on his drives. He plays bully ball and I like that.
Duke4life831 wrote:Dantares wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:
Im curious on why you think Rui will be a stud. I just don't see it at all on the NBA level. I kind of just see a slightly bigger but worse shooting Chandler Hutchinson. His lack of foot speed is going to kill him defensively and I just don't see him being a complete enough dominant offensive player to make up for his defensive deficiencies.
I see rui as the prototypical modern day small ball 4 where his foot speed will be more than adequate. He is listed at 235 and we know most rookies that come into the league are able to gain another 10-15 pounds while becoming more explosive. I like his energy and the way he seeks contact on his drives. He plays bully ball and I like that.
A modern small ball 4 that doesn't rebound, protect the rim or shoot the 3 though? I think he can become a solid 3pt shooter. I just don't see what he is going to excel at though. His offense is always going to be predicated off his mid range game, I don't see that ever changing because that is his entire game. I see him having major issues handling the switches and PnR of the NBA defensively. And again Im just not sure he is going to have a big enough impact offensively to make up for the lack of defense. I think he is going to be a solid rotation player, I just don't see stud.
Jeff Van Gully wrote:Spree2Houston wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:
tainted since jarvis. levin did a solid job.
damn shame. SJU should be a DESTINATION. but it's a testament to the global and national game that NYC is not the selling point it used to be.
There's no real campus life there. It's a borderline commuter school.
that was my experience. commuted from harlem (yuck). dating myself, but my freshman year was the first year there were dorms on campus. as you point out, that never took hold.
some kids took to some of the houses nearby. and there's hardly any places to eat or hang out on utopia or union. def not the move for campus life.
bigtimeRC3 wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:Spree2Houston wrote:
There's no real campus life there. It's a borderline commuter school.
that was my experience. commuted from harlem (yuck). dating myself, but my freshman year was the first year there were dorms on campus. as you point out, that never took hold.
some kids took to some of the houses nearby. and there's hardly any places to eat or hang out on utopia or union. def not the move for campus life.
st johns was terrible. terrible school, public safety was a bunch of bumbling fools. six years of my life there. very suspect people. only good thing it was only a 3 minute drive...
