Trades and Transactions thread - To the offseason!

[eagle54]

And you really think Pacers would accept even drunked our trashed players for Dipo ?

At this point who knows, he's had a bad year after injuries (13ppg) but he's still looking to cash in as an all star. So far it doesn't look like Indiana wants to pony up.

the question is nos about Dipo (because at the opposite of Porzingis, he came back for somes games before the end of the season, Porzingis was out for another year after trade) but about our trashed players. A half of Dipo is better than DSj Knox and Portis.
The value of smith is negative, knox probably too but maybe they can develop him, portis not sure Pacers like a player like him.

[Richard4444]

Oladipo extension is limited to 25,2M (20% up from the current contract). He can make more than 35M/y in Free Agency. I dont think they will reach a agreement.

But we would have to give picks to grab him. The competition to get him will be huge if he doesnt mind to go to a small/medium market team. Our hope is he does.

[WargamesX]

I would rather conley than cp3. It will be amare 2.0

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thing is, it won't really hurt us if he gets injured. we don't care about contention while he's here, it would be about his impact on our guys. if anything, his injury history would be a blessing for the point guard we draft to get more burn later in the season. and his contract's up by the time we have any hopes of nabbing a superstar free agent, so it's not like amare's contract, which was hamstringing us at a point where another max player could've put us over the top

Wait, what???

He’s getting paid 85 mil over the next two years! Were you a Knick fan during the Allan Houston years. It was low key miserable. Let’s not do that, ever again. Like the amount of sports trauma that knicks fans have gone through...... it’s not in anyway ok if we trade for CP3 and he is injured.

[spree2kawhi]

Oladipo extension is limited to 25,2M (20% up from the current contract). He can make more than 35M/y in Free Agency. I dont think they will reach a agreement.

But we would have to give picks to grab him. The competition to get him will be huge if he doesnt mind to go to a small/medium market team. Our hope is he does.

Why would it cost picks to get him in free agency? I mean if you trade for him, you'd have to extend and that's what you suggested that he wouldn't want. I didn't think too much about it so far obviously, but if you're right, great! That dude is a killer.

[Richard4444]

Oladipo extension is limited to 25,2M (20% up from the current contract). He can make more than 35M/y in Free Agency. I dont think they will reach a agreement.

But we would have to give picks to grab him. The competition to get him will be huge if he doesnt mind to go to a small/medium market team. Our hope is he does.

Why would it cost picks to get him in free agency? I mean if you trade for him, you'd have to extend and that's what you suggested that he wouldn't want. I didn't think too much about it so far obviously, but if you're right, great! That dude is a killer.

Oladipo apparently will try Free Agency. If Indiana is unsure about Max him after the injury or is afraid to lose him to another team, they will try to move him, to secure a compensation. It would run like the Melo transfer. The "buyer" would make sure that Oladipo promise that will sign with them in off-season. If Oladipo tells small market teams he is not interested, he would be limited to big market teams, giving us an edge.

Its definitely better to get him in Free Agency. But we know we are desperate for big names and I think the FO will not miss an opportunity like that. If we wait, its possible we lose him to medium markets like Toronto, San Antonio or Dallas, that will have Cap Space in 2021.

[rajajackal]

I would rather conley than cp3. It will be amare 2.0

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thing is, it won't really hurt us if he gets injured. we don't care about contention while he's here, it would be about his impact on our guys. if anything, his injury history would be a blessing for the point guard we draft to get more burn later in the season. and his contract's up by the time we have any hopes of nabbing a superstar free agent, so it's not like amare's contract, which was hamstringing us at a point where another max player could've put us over the top

Wait, what???

He’s getting paid 85 mil over the next two years! Were you a Knick fan during the Allan Houston years. It was low key miserable. Let’s not do that, ever again. Like the amount of sports trauma that knicks fans have gone through...... it’s not in anyway ok if we trade for CP3 and he is injured.

lottery teams take on dead capspace all the time. capspace is only valuable when you've got a proven foundation you want to build upon. i'm not interested in planning our team's future around the AD lottery, so trading a player who has been detrimental to both of our foundational pieces (randle) for a HoF vet is a no-brainer to me. you can argue that randle's 2nd year is a team option vs chris paul's being guaranteed, but like i said, i don't think we'll qualify for superstar free agents until we nurture our garden at home. 2 years is fine by me if it means we're going to focus on developing our core. even if they end up being flipped for something better in the future -- having respected basketball players on our roster gives us more flexibility.

[blanko]

thing is, it won't really hurt us if he gets injured. we don't care about contention while he's here, it would be about his impact on our guys. if anything, his injury history would be a blessing for the point guard we draft to get more burn later in the season. and his contract's up by the time we have any hopes of nabbing a superstar free agent, so it's not like amare's contract, which was hamstringing us at a point where another max player could've put us over the top

Wait, what???

He’s getting paid 85 mil over the next two years! Were you a Knick fan during the Allan Houston years. It was low key miserable. Let’s not do that, ever again. Like the amount of sports trauma that knicks fans have gone through...... it’s not in anyway ok if we trade for CP3 and he is injured.

lottery teams take on dead capspace all the time. capspace is only valuable when you've got a proven foundation you want to build upon. i'm not interested in planning our team's future around the AD lottery, so trading a player who has been detrimental to both of our foundational pieces (randle) for a HoF vet is a no-brainer to me. you can argue that randle's 2nd year is a team option vs chris paul's being guaranteed, but like i said, i don't think we'll qualify for superstar free agents until we nurture our garden at home. 2 years is fine by me if it means we're going to focus on developing our core. even if they end up being flipped for something better in the future -- having respected basketball players on our roster gives us more flexibility.

The thunder want assets for cp3, with his contract they should be sending us a 1st rounder for every remaining year of hsi deal.

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[rajajackal]

Wait, what???

He’s getting paid 85 mil over the next two years! Were you a Knick fan during the Allan Houston years. It was low key miserable. Let’s not do that, ever again. Like the amount of sports trauma that knicks fans have gone through...... it’s not in anyway ok if we trade for CP3 and he is injured.

lottery teams take on dead capspace all the time. capspace is only valuable when you've got a proven foundation you want to build upon. i'm not interested in planning our team's future around the AD lottery, so trading a player who has been detrimental to both of our foundational pieces (randle) for a HoF vet is a no-brainer to me. you can argue that randle's 2nd year is a team option vs chris paul's being guaranteed, but like i said, i don't think we'll qualify for superstar free agents until we nurture our garden at home. 2 years is fine by me if it means we're going to focus on developing our core. even if they end up being flipped for something better in the future -- having respected basketball players on our roster gives us more flexibility.

The thunder want assets for cp3, with his contract they should be sending us a 1st rounder for every remaining year of hsi deal.

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they can have "assets" in the form of youth. they seem to have one of the strongest development programs in the league. i'd offer 2 of dsj, knox, dotson, and trier along with randle, and expect some level of draft compensation in return. beyond that, obviously i'm not into giving up that much for cp3. just saying that i'd be willing to take on the last 2 years of his contract for the right price, FWIW

[blanko]

lottery teams take on dead capspace all the time. capspace is only valuable when you've got a proven foundation you want to build upon. i'm not interested in planning our team's future around the AD lottery, so trading a player who has been detrimental to both of our foundational pieces (randle) for a HoF vet is a no-brainer to me. you can argue that randle's 2nd year is a team option vs chris paul's being guaranteed, but like i said, i don't think we'll qualify for superstar free agents until we nurture our garden at home. 2 years is fine by me if it means we're going to focus on developing our core. even if they end up being flipped for something better in the future -- having respected basketball players on our roster gives us more flexibility.

The thunder want assets for cp3, with his contract they should be sending us a 1st rounder for every remaining year of hsi deal.

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they can have "assets" in the form of youth. they seem to have one of the strongest development programs in the league. i'd offer 2 of dsj, knox, dotson, and trier along with randle, and expect some level of draft compensation in return. beyond that, obviously i'm not into giving up that much for cp3. just saying that i'd be willing to take on the last 2 years of his contract for the right price, FWIW

Randle dsj trier

Not trading knox now.

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[rajajackal]

The thunder want assets for cp3, with his contract they should be sending us a 1st rounder for every remaining year of hsi deal.

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they can have "assets" in the form of youth. they seem to have one of the strongest development programs in the league. i'd offer 2 of dsj, knox, dotson, and trier along with randle, and expect some level of draft compensation in return. beyond that, obviously i'm not into giving up that much for cp3. just saying that i'd be willing to take on the last 2 years of his contract for the right price, FWIW

Randle dsj trier

Not trading knox now.

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works for me!

[Richard4444]

The thunder want assets for cp3, with his contract they should be sending us a 1st rounder for every remaining year of hsi deal.

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they can have "assets" in the form of youth. they seem to have one of the strongest development programs in the league. i'd offer 2 of dsj, knox, dotson, and trier along with randle, and expect some level of draft compensation in return. beyond that, obviously i'm not into giving up that much for cp3. just saying that i'd be willing to take on the last 2 years of his contract for the right price, FWIW

Randle dsj trier

Not trading knox now.

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We dont own Trier and Dotson anymore. Their contract expiried (assuming regular season is over).

[blanko]

they can have "assets" in the form of youth. they seem to have one of the strongest development programs in the league. i'd offer 2 of dsj, knox, dotson, and trier along with randle, and expect some level of draft compensation in return. beyond that, obviously i'm not into giving up that much for cp3. just saying that i'd be willing to take on the last 2 years of his contract for the right price, FWIW

Randle dsj trier

Not trading knox now.

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We dont own Trier and Dotson anymore. Their contract expiried (assuming regular season is over).

Fine dsj and other fillers. We better be getting back 2 first rounders.

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[Richard4444]

Randle dsj trier

Not trading knox now.

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We dont own Trier and Dotson anymore. Their contract expiried (assuming regular season is over).

Fine dsj and other fillers. We better be getting back 2 first rounders.

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Why would OKC give away FRPs to unload CP3 contract? He is playing greatly. They dont need Cap Space (small market team). They are not in the luxury tax. They asked for FRPs to trade him to Miami.

[3toheadmelo]

Yesssirrskii

[dakomish23]

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Always reactive instead of proactive

[dakomish23]

thing is, it won't really hurt us if he gets injured. we don't care about contention while he's here, it would be about his impact on our guys. if anything, his injury history would be a blessing for the point guard we draft to get more burn later in the season. and his contract's up by the time we have any hopes of nabbing a superstar free agent, so it's not like amare's contract, which was hamstringing us at a point where another max player could've put us over the top

Wait, what???

He’s getting paid 85 mil over the next two years! Were you a Knick fan during the Allan Houston years. It was low key miserable. Let’s not do that, ever again. Like the amount of sports trauma that knicks fans have gone through...... it’s not in anyway ok if we trade for CP3 and he is injured.

lottery teams take on dead capspace all the time. capspace is only valuable when you've got a proven foundation you want to build upon. i'm not interested in planning our team's future around the AD lottery, so trading a player who has been detrimental to both of our foundational pieces (randle) for a HoF vet is a no-brainer to me. you can argue that randle's 2nd year is a team option vs chris paul's being guaranteed, but like i said, i don't think we'll qualify for superstar free agents until we nurture our garden at home. 2 years is fine by me if it means we're going to focus on developing our core. even if they end up being flipped for something better in the future -- having respected basketball players on our roster gives us more flexibility.

Lottery teams take on dead cap for payment.

Maybe things will be different than under Mills, who proactively said we are not interested in taking salary dumps so we can pay useless vets to play over kids.

[WargamesX]

:lol:

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Always reactive instead of proactive

This seems unlikely but you never know. I’ll say this...... Don’t trade for CP3’s 85 Mil contract lol

[WargamesX]

https://www.si.com/nba/knicks/news/knicks-starting-five-chris-molicki

Here is a pretty good break down of what my ideal offseason would be

Grab Bertans 1+1 deal, Grab Christian Wood long term, Draft a PG (maybe two) and just play the season out. It’ll show improvement to the young core, and we can go after say Gordon Hayward in 2021 or draft the teams future SF.

Let’s call this the Responsible Rebuild

[knickstape4ever]

“It’s almost like the James Harden trade," said Cuban. "It was like, ‘Why didn’t you guys offer that to us?’ Sometimes you just have teams that you work well with, and we’ve always worked well with the Knicks and they just said, ‘You guys said you were interested before, here’s the deal yes or no.’

according to Cuban, this is how it went down

[mpharris36]

“It’s almost like the James Harden trade," said Cuban. "It was like, ‘Why didn’t you guys offer that to us?’ Sometimes you just have teams that you work well with, and we’ve always worked well with the Knicks and they just said, ‘You guys said you were interested before, here’s the deal yes or no.’

according to Cuban, this is how it went down

and thats how you end up with DSJ and late 1st rounders for KP