PG: Out of our Misery

[GONYK]

I don't know who the coach will be next year, but if KAT is still here and we aren't playing 5 out, then there's going to be a lot of people who need to answer some very obvious questions.

[ophdog]

This was our chance. I’ve been a Knick fan for 40 years and know how this goes we won’t be back to this level again for years and under a completely new era. That was it. That was our chance.

[captvict]

Knicks need a point guard and move Brunson to SG
They smothered him tonight and nobody else besides McBride has a handle to help bring the ball across
Where’s Kolek

Thibs failed to adjust to this dilemma. Teams did the same thing to Jeremy Lin to try and shut him down as they doubled him in the back court
But Dantoni adjusted with another point guard

Need to pick up Chris Paul or Westbrook if available

[ChrisStudley]

All season long something felt off.

We could win but we could never blow a team out. We could win but never against the best teams. Beating Boston in the playoffs was amazing, but still feels oddly not understandable. The Pacers were so beatable, but losing to them was simultaneously so predictable.

I fundamentally believe last year's team (especially w/ a healthy Randle) was better than this year's team and would be in the Finals right now.

All I know is that these Brunson years, especially under this weird apron CBA, are too precious to squander. The potential is right there. What should our FO do to make sure it's not wasted? Do we wait and gel 1 more year? Do we look to change our coach? Hope that we can increase bench depth? Was the missing link Towns on D and if so do we look to move off him? Do we flip Josh for some players who can shoot? (my heart would break)

My gut says it's a choice between flipping Towns, or betting on bench depth + gelling + coaching adjustments. I fully doubt Thibs gets fired, though I hope he is pressured into becoming more modern and more trusting. I hardly blame KAT for our loss -- not fully -- but there is definitely a reason why this team never felt as strong as they should have been, and his defense + Thibs coaching philosophy is my best guess as to why.

Still an incredibly successful season, yet oddly disappointing knowing that we could be that much more with small differences.

[K_ick_God]

I’m excited to see what Hukporti can do in year 2

[ophdog]

Did anyone notice how much we were lazy getting back and walking or jogging in transition? It was an embarrassment.

[MrDollarBills]

I’m excited to see what Hukporti can do in year 2

I think Hukporti, Dadiet, and Kolek all have upside.

[dakomish23]

Anyone who thinks KAT is a bigger problem than thibs and hart is funny. I don’t even ride for KAT like that but we have bigger problems than him. We have the ability to compensate for him. Minnesota had the best defense in the league with KAT.

Hart is not a bad player but thibs treats him like he is Derrick white. He is NOT Derrick white. In fact if we had Derrick white instead of him I don’t see how we don’t go all the way. All playoffs and all ECF we needed Hart playing less and shamet/wright playing more. It took thibs until game 6 to limit harts minutes but it was too late. Everything he does is always too late. He realizes everything multiple games late.

Hart started or played 35 minutes in games 1-5. There’s no reason for it. It’s unexplainable.

Hart shot 18.2% from 3 this series.

Hart had more turnovers than assists in 3 losses this game.

Somehow that’s KAT’s fault

[G_K_F]

Our only hope is that Dadiet becomes the French KD.

[MrDollarBills]

Knicks need a point guard and move Brunson to SG
They smothered him tonight and nobody else besides McBride has a handle to help bring the ball across
Where’s Kolek

Thibs failed to adjust to this dilemma. Teams did the same thing to Jeremy Lin to try and shut him down as they doubled him in the back court
But Dantoni adjusted with another point guard

Need to pick up Chris Paul or Westbrook if available

I think this is a legit discussion to be had.

I don't think Brunson is a PG and this team needs another starting guard that can both handle the ball, facilitate and defend

[GONYK]

Knicks need a point guard and move Brunson to SG
They smothered him tonight and nobody else besides McBride has a handle to help bring the ball across
Where’s Kolek

Thibs failed to adjust to this dilemma. Teams did the same thing to Jeremy Lin to try and shut him down as they doubled him in the back court
But Dantoni adjusted with another point guard

Need to pick up Chris Paul or Westbrook if available

I think this is a legit discussion to be had.

I don't think Brunson is a PG and this team needs another starting guard that can both handle the ball, facilitate and defend

So why was Westbrook mentioned

[MrDollarBills]

Knicks need a point guard and move Brunson to SG
They smothered him tonight and nobody else besides McBride has a handle to help bring the ball across
Where’s Kolek

Thibs failed to adjust to this dilemma. Teams did the same thing to Jeremy Lin to try and shut him down as they doubled him in the back court
But Dantoni adjusted with another point guard

Need to pick up Chris Paul or Westbrook if available

I think this is a legit discussion to be had.

I don't think Brunson is a PG and this team needs another starting guard that can both handle the ball, facilitate and defend

So why was Westbrook mentioned

You gotta ask him, i was just adding my two cents

I agree with the sentiment some other posters have mentioned. I think we need an Eric Snow kinda player next to Brunson that can defend and facilitate so JB can just focus on being a nuclear weapon on offense. Mikal isn't that guy and I'd look to move on from him.

[Capn'O]

Knicks need a point guard and move Brunson to SG
They smothered him tonight and nobody else besides McBride has a handle to help bring the ball across
Where’s Kolek

Thibs failed to adjust to this dilemma. Teams did the same thing to Jeremy Lin to try and shut him down as they doubled him in the back court
But Dantoni adjusted with another point guard

Need to pick up Chris Paul or Westbrook if available

I think this is a legit discussion to be had.

I don't think Brunson is a PG and this team needs another starting guard that can both handle the ball, facilitate and defend

Wright could but he's not good enough to play that role. Who are players like him but younger and better?

[GONYK]

Knicks need a point guard and move Brunson to SG
They smothered him tonight and nobody else besides McBride has a handle to help bring the ball across
Where’s Kolek

Thibs failed to adjust to this dilemma. Teams did the same thing to Jeremy Lin to try and shut him down as they doubled him in the back court
But Dantoni adjusted with another point guard

Need to pick up Chris Paul or Westbrook if available

I think this is a legit discussion to be had.

I don't think Brunson is a PG and this team needs another starting guard that can both handle the ball, facilitate and defend

Wright could but he's not good enough to play that role. Who are players like him but younger and better?

Lonzo

[D.Brasco]

[HerSports85]

I hate it here

Read on Twitter

[TimRobbins]

Brunson was playing absolute terrible defense even after his minutes were cut. Knicks aren't going anywhere if he doesn't step up his effort next season.

[Wildcat]

Kat's burner account.

[GettinitDone]

Read on Twitter

"WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PLANS" ????

"It felt like lots of stuff throughout the year just got exposed now"

FIRE THIBS

[kNicksGmen]

This was our chance. I’ve been a Knick fan for 40 years and know how this goes we won’t be back to this level again for years and under a completely new era. That was it. That was our chance.

Based on how the east looks I could see the Knicks getting to the ECF again at some point in this "era". The opponent is likely to be more formidable than a 4 seeded pacers team that is incredibly beatable.

So the window to getting to the finals, this certainly felt like the best chance. They still had virtually no shot to beat OKC though outside of some serious injury luck and shooting variance. We couldn't handle the mid pacers defensive pressure. OKC would force us into 30 turnovers. Might not score 80.

The sad thing is having no assets to delude yourself into thinking there's hope/possibility going forward. No young players that just need another year or 2 to get to that next level etc.