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Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread pt. 2 (update: poll added 6/18/25)

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Who will be the next coach of the New York Knicks?

Poll ended at Wed Jul 2, 2025 1:31 pm

Mike Brown
24
18%
Taylor Jenkins
42
32%
Johnnie Bryant
27
20%
Mike Malone
5
4%
James Borrego
7
5%
Mike Budenholzer
1
1%
Rick Brunson
4
3%
Jeff Van Gundy
6
5%
Jason Kidd
10
8%
Other
7
5%
 
Total votes: 133

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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread pt. 2 (update: poll added 6/18/25) 

Post#581 » by Jeff Van Gully » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:13 pm

sol537 wrote:I think it will be Kidd or Jenkins.

Kidd is a slick one. If he wants out of Dallas, for whatever reason, he'll find a way and Leon will pave the path.

You know if we hire him, we have to show that we did a real coaching search in the meantime or Dallas will cry collusion again. The going rate to get Kidd will be something like two 2nd rounders based on history.

Getting Kidd and then throwing the bag at Bryant to be the lead assistant would be a great outcome IMO.


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Post#582 » by GONYK » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:15 pm

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Yeah, his Cavs teams were good defensively and they didn't have a lot of talent either. It was LeBron and scrubs. He can adjust to the roster. I'm not a big fan, but he has had some success with different types of teams.


He made his name as a defensive wiz from the Pop coaching tree in SA. He didn't become thought of as a creative offensive coach until after spending 6 years with GSW.

I don't think Mike Brown forgot how to coach defense.


I would need a young offensive mind to bring in with Brown if thats the case...just like Sacremento had with Jordi Fernandez.


I have always looked at this as a whole staff acquisition, not just the man at the head.
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Post#583 » by stuporman » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:22 pm

Seems like the forum is in full cope mode about Brown.

Brown is the 'safe' choice, Jenkins is the 'risky' choice, Bryant is the 'exciting' choice...this FO has made some aggressive and some may say risky moves with the roster but when it comes to the coach it seems like they will go the safe route.

I don't know if Brown's the right choice but I think Jenkins and Bryant would get more love from the fan base initially and a longer leash from them as well. Brown is going to get alot of groans and eyerolls from the fans and no leash at all.
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Post#584 » by GONYK » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:33 pm

stuporman wrote:Seems like the forum is in full cope mode about Brown.

Brown is the 'safe' choice, Jenkins is the 'risky' choice, Bryant is the 'exciting' choice...this FO has made some aggressive and some may say risky moves with the roster but when it comes to the coach it seems like they will go the safe route.

I don't know if Brown's the right choice but I think Jenkins and Bryant would get more love from the fan base initially and a longer leash from them as well. Brown is going to get alot of groans and eyerolls from the fans and no leash at all.


The fans are irrelevant to this process, really.

All that will matter is the coach's ability to collaborate with his own staff and the FO and the results that ultimately brings.
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Post#585 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:36 pm

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He made his name as a defensive wiz from the Pop coaching tree in SA. He didn't become thought of as a creative offensive coach until after spending 6 years with GSW.

I don't think Mike Brown forgot how to coach defense.


I would need a young offensive mind to bring in with Brown if thats the case...just like Sacremento had with Jordi Fernandez.


I have always looked at this as a whole staff acquisition, not just the man at the head.



I do think that was the "thibs way or the highway" type deal. I thought we were better coached when we had Bryant as the associate HC. I think it would be helpful to have a top level assistant to come with the HC if they truly want a coach with experience (especially coaching in the playoffs).
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Post#586 » by Capn'O » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:41 pm

So we've interviewed both Brown and Jenkins and hired neither one.

Clearly we're hiring Sam Cassell.

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Post#587 » by GONYK » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:42 pm

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I would need a young offensive mind to bring in with Brown if thats the case...just like Sacremento had with Jordi Fernandez.


I have always looked at this as a whole staff acquisition, not just the man at the head.



I do think that was the "thibs way or the highway" type deal. I thought we were better coached when we had Bryant as the associate HC. I think it would be helpful to have a top level assistant to come with the HC if they truly want a coach with experience (especially coaching in the playoffs).


Jenkins with Brown as an assistant it is :lol:
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Post#588 » by Fury » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:44 pm

Capn'O wrote:So we've interviewed both Brown and Jenkins and hired neither one.

Clearly we're hiring Sam Cassell.

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Did we officially interview them already?
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Post#589 » by Capn'O » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:45 pm

Fury wrote:
Capn'O wrote:So we've interviewed both Brown and Jenkins and hired neither one.

Clearly we're hiring Sam Cassell.

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Did we officially interview them already?


The report was that we were interviewing them early in the week and Brown was allegedly seen at an NYC airport :dontknow:
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Post#590 » by stuporman » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:46 pm

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stuporman wrote:Seems like the forum is in full cope mode about Brown.

Brown is the 'safe' choice, Jenkins is the 'risky' choice, Bryant is the 'exciting' choice...this FO has made some aggressive and some may say risky moves with the roster but when it comes to the coach it seems like they will go the safe route.

I don't know if Brown's the right choice but I think Jenkins and Bryant would get more love from the fan base initially and a longer leash from them as well. Brown is going to get alot of groans and eyerolls from the fans and no leash at all.


The fans are irrelevant to this process, really.

All that will matter is the coach's ability to collaborate with his own staff and the FO and the results that ultimately brings.


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Post#591 » by GONYK » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:49 pm

stuporman wrote:
GONYK wrote:
stuporman wrote:Seems like the forum is in full cope mode about Brown.

Brown is the 'safe' choice, Jenkins is the 'risky' choice, Bryant is the 'exciting' choice...this FO has made some aggressive and some may say risky moves with the roster but when it comes to the coach it seems like they will go the safe route.

I don't know if Brown's the right choice but I think Jenkins and Bryant would get more love from the fan base initially and a longer leash from them as well. Brown is going to get alot of groans and eyerolls from the fans and no leash at all.


The fans are irrelevant to this process, really.

All that will matter is the coach's ability to collaborate with his own staff and the FO and the results that ultimately brings.


Saying the fans are irrelevant is one of the most irrelevant replies to someone commenting on fan reaction.


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Post#592 » by nykballa2k4 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:52 pm

FrozenEnvelope wrote:I still think it's gonna be Kidd.

It feels that way. General unease in the air, impending doom. Sounds like Kidd incoming.
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Post#593 » by BKlutch » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:53 pm

Capn'O wrote:
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Capn'O wrote:So we've interviewed both Brown and Jenkins and hired neither one.

Clearly we're hiring Sam Cassell.

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Did we officially interview them already?


The report was that we were interviewing them early in the week and Brown was allegedly seen at an NYC airport :dontknow:

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Post#594 » by Fury » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:54 pm

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FrozenEnvelope wrote:I still think it's gonna be Kidd.

It feels that way. General unease in the air, impending doom. Sounds like Kidd incoming.


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Post#595 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:54 pm

I still don't get people's beef with Brown other than he's been a coach for a really long time :lol: . He's a fine candidate. Not the sexiest one but he's pretty much won wherever he's been.

Kings were good under him without a ton of talent. And don't just pass the buck to Jordi either. They were 8th in offense and 16th in defense when he got fired this season so he was still making it work. They were terribly unlucky in clutch games earlier in the season and Fox was clearly torpedoing things behind the scenes there.

He wasn't my number 1 candidate and I will say if our two choices are Jenkins and him, then I'm not really inspired per se. But I think Brown, specifically, can accomplish a lot with this group offensively.
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Post#596 » by GONYK » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:03 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:I still don't get people's beef with Brown other than he's been a coach for a really long time :lol: . He's a fine candidate. Not the sexiest one but he's pretty much won wherever he's been.

Kings were good under him without a ton of talent. And don't just pass the buck to Jordi either. They were 8th in offense and 16th in defense when he got fired this season so he was still making it work. They were terribly unlucky in clutch games earlier in the season and Fox was clearly torpedoing things behind the scenes there.

He wasn't my number 1 candidate and I will say if our two choices are Jenkins and him, then I'm not really inspired per se. But I think Brown, specifically, can accomplish a lot with this group offensively.


At worst, Brown can be like Vogel in LA.

Vogel wasn't brought in to reinvent the wheel. He was brought in to keep the trains running on time, since LA was a team full of vets with Lebron basically running things.

Brown can certainly maintain our floor, if nothing else.
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Post#597 » by stuporman » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:10 pm

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Knicksfan1992 wrote:I still don't get people's beef with Brown other than he's been a coach for a really long time :lol: . He's a fine candidate. Not the sexiest one but he's pretty much won wherever he's been.

Kings were good under him without a ton of talent. And don't just pass the buck to Jordi either. They were 8th in offense and 16th in defense when he got fired this season so he was still making it work. They were terribly unlucky in clutch games earlier in the season and Fox was clearly torpedoing things behind the scenes there.

He wasn't my number 1 candidate and I will say if our two choices are Jenkins and him, then I'm not really inspired per se. But I think Brown, specifically, can accomplish a lot with this group offensively.


At worst, Brown can be like Vogel in LA.

Vogel wasn't brought in to reinvent the wheel. He was brought in to keep the trains running on time, since LA was a team full of vets with Lebron basically running things.

Brown can certainly maintain our floor, if nothing else.


So you are saying he can be the Knicks's Mussolini? How did that work out for Italy? :lol:
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Post#598 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:10 pm

GONYK wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:I still don't get people's beef with Brown other than he's been a coach for a really long time :lol: . He's a fine candidate. Not the sexiest one but he's pretty much won wherever he's been.

Kings were good under him without a ton of talent. And don't just pass the buck to Jordi either. They were 8th in offense and 16th in defense when he got fired this season so he was still making it work. They were terribly unlucky in clutch games earlier in the season and Fox was clearly torpedoing things behind the scenes there.

He wasn't my number 1 candidate and I will say if our two choices are Jenkins and him, then I'm not really inspired per se. But I think Brown, specifically, can accomplish a lot with this group offensively.


At worst, Brown can be like Vogel in LA.

Vogel wasn't brought in to reinvent the wheel. He was brought in to keep the trains running on time, since LA was a team full of vets with Lebron basically running things.

Brown can certainly maintain our floor, if nothing else.



To be honest I think Brunson by himself basically maintains our floor. No matter who is our coach we won't regress enough with Brunson leading the show.
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Post#599 » by stuporman » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:12 pm

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The fans are irrelevant to this process, really.

All that will matter is the coach's ability to collaborate with his own staff and the FO and the results that ultimately brings.


Saying the fans are irrelevant is one of the most irrelevant replies to someone commenting on fan reaction.


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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread pt. 2 (update: poll added 6/18/25) 

Post#600 » by GONYK » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:13 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:I still don't get people's beef with Brown other than he's been a coach for a really long time :lol: . He's a fine candidate. Not the sexiest one but he's pretty much won wherever he's been.

Kings were good under him without a ton of talent. And don't just pass the buck to Jordi either. They were 8th in offense and 16th in defense when he got fired this season so he was still making it work. They were terribly unlucky in clutch games earlier in the season and Fox was clearly torpedoing things behind the scenes there.

He wasn't my number 1 candidate and I will say if our two choices are Jenkins and him, then I'm not really inspired per se. But I think Brown, specifically, can accomplish a lot with this group offensively.


At worst, Brown can be like Vogel in LA.

Vogel wasn't brought in to reinvent the wheel. He was brought in to keep the trains running on time, since LA was a team full of vets with Lebron basically running things.

Brown can certainly maintain our floor, if nothing else.



To be honest I think Brunson by himself basically maintains our floor. No matter who is our coach we won't regress enough with Brunson leading the show.


Similarly to Lebron in LA.

The talent alone is enough to get 45+ wins. We made the ECF despite what many will call bad process.

We really need someone who can keep everyone engaged and be willing to adjust faster.


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