Trades and Transactions 2025 continued x2

[knickstape4ever]

Out of curiosity, would you make this deal?

Mikal to HOU for Jabari Smith, Cam Whitmore, Jock Landale (salary matching purposes), + 2 1sts

this is knowing that Mikal was heavily coveted by the Rockets last year. I'd prefer to trade Mikal for someone like JJJ, but if the Rockets were still interested I'd definitely consider dealing w/ them; their picks are very valuable: #10 this year, pick swap w/ BKN 2027, PHX 2027, 2029 2 most favorable of DAL/PHX/HOU. + Jabari Smith has a lot of tools and will likely breakout soon. Whitmore is a bucket w/ no room in that rotation

That’s way too good of a deal for us lol

perhaps, but they were willing to give up Jalen Green + picks last year. We gave up what 4? 5? picks to get Mikal. I don't think Jabari Smith is viewed w/ the same value a former #3 pick would, probably a buy-low on him. Whitmore is a bucket but Ime hasn't found consistent minutes for him, so he seems expendable to them.

[Knicksfan1992]

don't let Toronto get Monk, he's what we need. a combo guard who can play Brunson's rest minutes, and an absolute bucket. don't have to worry about our offense not being able to get a bucket w/o Jalen on the floor

Yeah I think Monk has some untapped potential on a good team. He upped his passing last year and his defense isn't as bad as his archetype/reputation may suggest. I think there's a chance you could play him and Brunson together a decent amount.

[KnixinSix]

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clint or brook would be good for our mle too if we're starting kat at the 4

Its the Lakers..... and trust me the NBA will absolutely move Heaven and Earth to make sure they get a legitimate Center regardless of what little assets they have to trade.

[KnixinSix]

Out of curiosity, would you make this deal?

Mikal to HOU for Jabari Smith, Cam Whitmore, Jock Landale (salary matching purposes), + 2 1sts

this is knowing that Mikal was heavily coveted by the Rockets last year. I'd prefer to trade Mikal for someone like JJJ, but if the Rockets were still interested I'd definitely consider dealing w/ them; their picks are very valuable: #10 this year, pick swap w/ BKN 2027, PHX 2027, 2029 2 most favorable of DAL/PHX/HOU. + Jabari Smith has a lot of tools and will likely breakout soon. Whitmore is a bucket w/ no room in that rotation

That’s way too good of a deal for us lol

perhaps, but they were willing to give up Jalen Green + picks last year. We gave up what 4? 5? picks to get Mikal. I don't think Jabari Smith is viewed w/ the same value a former #3 pick would, probably a buy-low on him. Whitmore is a bucket but Ime hasn't found consistent minutes for him, so he seems expendable to them.

They have a hard on for Bridges....
We give them Bridges and Mitch for Jalen Green and Whitmore. Green then runs the 2nd unit.

[sol537]

That’s way too good of a deal for us lol

perhaps, but they were willing to give up Jalen Green + picks last year. We gave up what 4? 5? picks to get Mikal. I don't think Jabari Smith is viewed w/ the same value a former #3 pick would, probably a buy-low on him. Whitmore is a bucket but Ime hasn't found consistent minutes for him, so he seems expendable to them.

They have a hard on for Bridges....
We give them Bridges and Mitch for Jalen Green and Whitmore. Green then runs the 2nd unit.

Jalen Green? Don’t want that bum on my team. There’s winning players and then there’s Jalen Green. Mikal and Mitch are winning players. That would be a disaster of a trade IMO.

[DaGawd]

perhaps, but they were willing to give up Jalen Green + picks last year. We gave up what 4? 5? picks to get Mikal. I don't think Jabari Smith is viewed w/ the same value a former #3 pick would, probably a buy-low on him. Whitmore is a bucket but Ime hasn't found consistent minutes for him, so he seems expendable to them.

They have a hard on for Bridges....
We give them Bridges and Mitch for Jalen Green and Whitmore. Green then runs the 2nd unit.

Jalen Green? Don’t want that bum on my team. There’s winning players and then there’s Jalen Green. Mikal and Mitch are winning players. That would be a disaster of a trade IMO.

we get way worse with this trade lmao wtf

[Richard4444]

where the donte divincenzo rumors at

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So if we still had RJ and IQ, would you add Mitch and a frp for the KD of today at 37? Seems an overpay by Toronto?

IQ, RJ and Poetl would totalize 80M in salary. The Raptors would get more players from the Suns if it were true.

[KnixinSix]

perhaps, but they were willing to give up Jalen Green + picks last year. We gave up what 4? 5? picks to get Mikal. I don't think Jabari Smith is viewed w/ the same value a former #3 pick would, probably a buy-low on him. Whitmore is a bucket but Ime hasn't found consistent minutes for him, so he seems expendable to them.

They have a hard on for Bridges....
We give them Bridges and Mitch for Jalen Green and Whitmore. Green then runs the 2nd unit.

Jalen Green? Don’t want that bum on my team. There’s winning players and then there’s Jalen Green. Mikal and Mitch are winning players. That would be a disaster of a trade IMO.

Ok fair enough....

[knickstape4ever]

That’s way too good of a deal for us lol

perhaps, but they were willing to give up Jalen Green + picks last year. We gave up what 4? 5? picks to get Mikal. I don't think Jabari Smith is viewed w/ the same value a former #3 pick would, probably a buy-low on him. Whitmore is a bucket but Ime hasn't found consistent minutes for him, so he seems expendable to them.

They have a hard on for Bridges....
We give them Bridges and Mitch for Jalen Green and Whitmore. Green then runs the 2nd unit.

I'd consider doing that, haven't been the biggest Jalen Green guy (too inefficient) but was very high on him coming into the league. Prefer Jabari Smith tho b/c defense

[mpharris36]

we are trying to win a championship and some want Jalen Green?

ok..

[KnixinSix]

-Minnesota is losing Naz Reid who is going to decline his PO and make a lot more than 15 mill. Randle probably will get an increase as well. Divo did not play nearly as well in Minnesota . Finch's system relies on bigs heavily and Mitch becomes a perfect two headed monster as Goeberts backup.

-Houston has had a hard on for Bridges and he is a perfect Ime Oduka fit for that team as a wing stopper.

-Utah gets the #10 pick in a pretty loaded draft plus other draft assets.

-Knicks get the defensive big to complement KAT in Kessler and reunite DDV in the backcourt with Brunson. Smith plays the backup 3/4 role. Hart plays the more appropriate ultimate energy guy off the bench at the 2/3 positions.

[KnixinSix]

perhaps, but they were willing to give up Jalen Green + picks last year. We gave up what 4? 5? picks to get Mikal. I don't think Jabari Smith is viewed w/ the same value a former #3 pick would, probably a buy-low on him. Whitmore is a bucket but Ime hasn't found consistent minutes for him, so he seems expendable to them.

They have a hard on for Bridges....
We give them Bridges and Mitch for Jalen Green and Whitmore. Green then runs the 2nd unit.

I'd consider doing that, haven't been the biggest Jalen Green guy (too inefficient) but was very high on him coming into the league. Prefer Jabari Smith tho b/c defense

I got ya covered bro

[spree2kawhi]

there is zero chance Kessler after his best year of his career is being traded for a "fake" 1st and a couple 2nd rounders.

No way...if Jazz are trading Kessler they will get multiple 1sts.

I agree and think thats way too little an offer. However I think he was also saying Mitch was getting sent to a 3rd team in the deal too.

Mitch isn't going to net you multiple 1st rd picks.

We should keep Mitch imo…

[spree2kawhi]

-Minnesota is losing Naz Reid who is going to decline his PO and make a lot more than 15 mill. Randle probably will get an increase as well. Divo did not play nearly as well in Minnesota . Finch's system relies on bigs heavily and Mitch becomes a perfect two headed monster as Goeberts backup.

-Houston has had a hard on for Bridges and he is a perfect Ime Oduka fit for that team as a wing stopper.

-Utah gets the #10 pick in a pretty loaded draft plus other draft assets.

-Knicks get the defensive big to complement KAT in Kessler and reunite DDV in the backcourt with Brunson. Smith plays the backup 3/4 role. Hart plays the more appropriate ultimate energy guy off the bench at the 2/3 positions.

Does that make us better though? I highly doubt it.

[KnixinSix]

-Minnesota is losing Naz Reid who is going to decline his PO and make a lot more than 15 mill. Randle probably will get an increase as well. Divo did not play nearly as well in Minnesota . Finch's system relies on bigs heavily and Mitch becomes a perfect two headed monster as Goeberts backup.

-Houston has had a hard on for Bridges and he is a perfect Ime Oduka fit for that team as a wing stopper.

-Utah gets the #10 pick in a pretty loaded draft plus other draft assets.

-Knicks get the defensive big to complement KAT in Kessler and reunite DDV in the backcourt with Brunson. Smith plays the backup 3/4 role. Hart plays the more appropriate ultimate energy guy off the bench at the 2/3 positions.

Does that make us better though? I highly doubt it.

I highly expect it , yes.

C Kessler (28)/KAT (12)/ Huk (8)
PF KAT(20)/OG (18)/ Jabari (10)
SF OG(15)/Jabari (15)/ Hart (5)/MLE (13) - Oubre, Nance, Trent Jr
SG Divo (20)/ Hart (20)/ McBride (5)/MLE (3)
PG Brunson (34)/Divo (8) / McBride (6)

*Kessler offers more durability and more dynamic scoring at the C position than Robinson to complement KAT

*Jabari offers a defensively versatile big with more mobility to play vs the 5 out teams that spread thefloor and play with Pace.

* Hart plays the more appropriate role off bench as high energy guy.

*Divo in theory if he comes back like NYK Divo is a infinite range shooter who really opens it up for Brunson. Those two played amazingly together in a season that was short circuited by an unprecedented level of injuries that piled up.

*The 14 non Brunson minutes generally will feature KAT on floor as #1 option. This will help stagger them and they would only share about 18-20 minutes on floor together. Minimizing the defensive liability when both are out there same time. Part of the 18-20 minutes they share will also have Kessler or Jabari out there to shield KAT defensively in the front court.

* Great depth and defensive versatility in the backcourt as well as front court.

[spree2kawhi]

-Minnesota is losing Naz Reid who is going to decline his PO and make a lot more than 15 mill. Randle probably will get an increase as well. Divo did not play nearly as well in Minnesota . Finch's system relies on bigs heavily and Mitch becomes a perfect two headed monster as Goeberts backup.

-Houston has had a hard on for Bridges and he is a perfect Ime Oduka fit for that team as a wing stopper.

-Utah gets the #10 pick in a pretty loaded draft plus other draft assets.

-Knicks get the defensive big to complement KAT in Kessler and reunite DDV in the backcourt with Brunson. Smith plays the backup 3/4 role. Hart plays the more appropriate ultimate energy guy off the bench at the 2/3 positions.

Does that make us better though? I highly doubt it.

I highly expect it , yes.


Kessler (28)/KAT (12)/ Huk (8)
KAT(20)/OG (18)/ Jabari (10)
OG(15)/Jabari (15)/ Hart (5)/MLE (13) - Oubre, Nance, Trent Jr
Divo (20)/ Hart (20)/ MLE (8)
Brunson (34)/Divo (10) / Wright -vet min (4)

Mitch is better than Kessler, Bridges by far the best player in the deal and apparently you’re giving up McBride, too? If you give up Bridges for Kessler, at least add Sexton along with him. Bridges still the best player in the deal, Mitch still better than Kessler…

[KnixinSix]

Does that make us better though? I highly doubt it.

I highly expect it , yes.


Kessler (28)/KAT (12)/ Huk (8)
KAT(20)/OG (18)/ Jabari (10)
OG(15)/Jabari (15)/ Hart (5)/MLE (13) - Oubre, Nance, Trent Jr
Divo (20)/ Hart (20)/ MLE (8)
Brunson (34)/Divo (10) / Wright -vet min (4)

Mitch is better than Kessler, Bridges by far the best player in the deal and apparently you’re giving up McBride, too? If you give up Bridges for Kessler, at least add Sexton along with him. Bridges still the best player in the deal, Mitch still better than Kessler…

Mitch is super injury prone and on last year of his contract. Also dont undersell Kessler. He is a offensive rebounding and shotblocking machine. And also happens to be CAA. Those two things can't be ignored as if in a vacuum.

McBride was simply forgot as its getting late lol. I added him back above.

Divo is such a big add back in the equation too. The way him and Brunson played off each other was incredible. They never got that same chemistry with Bridges.

Bottomline the roster construction is definitely better than our current in terms of depth, defensive versatility and pieces fitting together and complementing each other.

[ctorres]

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So if we still had RJ and IQ, would you add Mitch and a frp for the KD of today at 37? Seems an overpay by Toronto?

IQ, RJ and Poetl would totalize 80M in salary. The Raptors would get more players from the Suns if it were true.

Per spotrac, the trade can be the 9th pick, Poetl, and either IQ or RJ, but not both IQ and RJ for KD

Suns are in the 2nd apron and in a trade, they are not allowed to add any player other than KD in the deal

[Reign23]

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So if we still had RJ and IQ, would you add Mitch and a frp for the KD of today at 37? Seems an overpay by Toronto?

IQ, RJ and Poetl would totalize 80M in salary. The Raptors would get more players from the Suns if it were true.

thanks, at least a few users look at whats allowed unter the CBA
If all three Raptors would be involved, Suns would have to add Allen + O'neal + Nick Richards.
Still a homerun for Phoenix imo.

[Reign23]

So if we still had RJ and IQ, would you add Mitch and a frp for the KD of today at 37? Seems an overpay by Toronto?

IQ, RJ and Poetl would totalize 80M in salary. The Raptors would get more players from the Suns if it were true.

Per spotrac, the trade can be the 9th pick, Poetl, and either IQ or RJ, but not both IQ and RJ for KD

Suns are in the 2nd apron and in a trade, they are not allowed to add any player other than KD in the deal

I think Cody Martins 8 mio are non guaranteed. If they waive him, they would be slightly under the second apron imo.
Or maybe they go crazy and stretch Beal