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THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th

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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#581 » by moocow007 » Wed May 20, 2009 1:49 am

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Rodman9196 wrote:Lebron is so leaving the Cavs for Danillo and Curry


People act like Mo Pete, Delonte "My fifth team" West, Wally World, Sideshow Bob, and Big Z are a formidable team that a superstar would run to.


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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#582 » by Pharmcat » Wed May 20, 2009 1:50 am

wat do people think bout derozan? :dontknow:
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#583 » by j4remi » Wed May 20, 2009 1:51 am

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Rodman9196 wrote:Lebron is so leaving the Cavs for Danillo and Curry


People act like Mo Pete, Delonte "My fifth team" West, Wally World, Sideshow Bob, and Big Z are a formidable team that a superstar would run to.


that doesn't matter. he aint leavin if they win the championship.


I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying, I can't stand people acting like Wilson Chandler and Danilo don't have an upside far beyond anyone on the Cavs.
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#584 » by Rodman9196 » Wed May 20, 2009 1:51 am

j4remi wrote:
Rodman9196 wrote:Lebron is so leaving the Cavs for Danillo and Curry


People act like Mo Pete, Delonte "My fifth team" West, Wally World, Sideshow Bob, and Big Z are a formidable team that a superstar would run to.



Mo Williams I think you meant
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#585 » by duetta » Wed May 20, 2009 1:53 am

Offer the pick to Utah in exchange for next year's #1.
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#586 » by TheBluest » Wed May 20, 2009 1:54 am

Pharmcat wrote:wat do people think bout derozan? :dontknow:



Good talent but seems like a screw is loose somewhere and defensively he's mediocre. Worse 3pt shot than T-Will but does have a nose for the ball around the basket and good finisher.
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#587 » by moocow007 » Wed May 20, 2009 1:54 am

Shemy wrote:i guess earl clark wouldnt be bad we would have a big line-up with chandler-clark-gallo, which would could cause problems to opposing teams

hopefully chandler improves his handling during the offseason


Clark probably is better in the backcourt (if that's what you're thinking). Clark can handle the ball with either hand, is a strong defender and had terrific feel for where his teammates are. The biggest knock against him is that he has a tendency of fading into the background and relying on his physical skills rather than taking over games like he should be able to do. In the NBA, that's a big concern and why a lot of teams don't have him as high as he should. When you take a look at the physical tools, the skills and the upside he's probably top 5.
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#588 » by j4remi » Wed May 20, 2009 2:00 am

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Seriously Im so pissed. no one good is going to be available.

Jennings will be GONE
Evans will be GONE
Harden will be GONE


That's why Clark is the pic. Worry about everything else later. Get the most skilled, versatile two-way athlete... and lick our wounds with tail between the legs.

Seriously if we draft Curry I hope Pringles becomes the new Escapegoat.


I like Clark decently...but I think I go Evans right now.
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#589 » by GuyverADL » Wed May 20, 2009 2:03 am

j4remi wrote:
TheBluest wrote:
optimusADL wrote:
Seriously Im so pissed. no one good is going to be available.

Jennings will be GONE
Evans will be GONE
Harden will be GONE


That's why Clark is the pic. Worry about everything else later. Get the most skilled, versatile two-way athlete... and lick our wounds with tail between the legs.

Seriously if we draft Curry I hope Pringles becomes the new Escapegoat.


I like Clark decently...but I think I go Evans right now.


No way does Evans slip by Golden State.

Evans is the PERFECT guard to play next to Monta Ellis. Plus it would allow Ellis to play SG.
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#590 » by moocow007 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:05 am

Rodman9196 wrote:
j4remi wrote:
Rodman9196 wrote:Lebron is so leaving the Cavs for Danillo and Curry


People act like Mo Pete, Delonte "My fifth team" West, Wally World, Sideshow Bob, and Big Z are a formidable team that a superstar would run to.



Mo Williams I think you meant


Mo Williams got taken out of the game his last season with the Bucks because he was embarrassing himself against the Knicks...the Knicks! Mo Williams was an All-Star because of Lebron (why Lebron was the clear and obvious MVP even before the vote was official). Lebron likely would have been able to make Jamal Crawford and Zach Randolph and (if he played) Eddy Curry All-Stars if they were on the Cavs (a testament to how good Lebron is not how good the other players are).
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#591 » by darkjedi4z » Wed May 20, 2009 2:09 am

Pharmcat wrote:
DaLeeDa wrote:Is it possible to trade the 8th + cash for Rubio?



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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#592 » by TheBluest » Wed May 20, 2009 2:12 am

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Shemy wrote:i guess earl clark wouldnt be bad we would have a big line-up with chandler-clark-gallo, which would could cause problems to opposing teams

hopefully chandler improves his handling during the offseason


Clark probably is better in the backcourt (if that's what you're thinking). Clark can handle the ball with either hand, is a strong defender and had terrific feel for where his teammates are. The biggest knock against him is that he has a tendency of fading into the background and relying on his physical skills rather than taking over games like he should be able to do. In the NBA, that's a big concern and why a lot of teams don't have him as high as he should. When you take a look at the physical tools, the skills and the upside he's probably top 5.



That's where he was end of the draft early Mock last yr and very Early Mocks to start the season. Can't deny his physical tools he's the most polished player on both sides of the ball. He may not be the best at any particular skill but he's highly skilled at every skill. Just needs to find out what button needs to be pushed on him and making full use of his skill sets instead of cookie cuttering his talent like college systems tend to do.
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#593 » by j4remi » Wed May 20, 2009 2:15 am

But does Clark have the mental edge? I really don't know if he does.
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#594 » by Jose7 » Wed May 20, 2009 2:19 am

j4remi wrote:But does Clark have the mental edge? I really don't know if he does.


Clark has awesome versatility but does not play 6'9 if you know what I mean.
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#595 » by TheBluest » Wed May 20, 2009 2:20 am

j4remi wrote:But does Clark have the mental edge? I really don't know if he does.



I think you could say this about plenty of players in this draft whether their mental deficiency is selfishness, IQ, motor, competitive spirit etc etc. And Just because you're strong mentally doesn't mean you're a good defender. I take a players strengths and measure them against the negatives and then compare. What I do know he isn't mentally weak or stupid enough not to play D and isn't limited in his skills to do so whereas others are and don't and will not have the skill sets to be good defenders.
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#596 » by TrueWarrior » Wed May 20, 2009 2:23 am

Man Bluest is really still trying to convince people on Clark. He got Optimus on his side, which should tell us all something.
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#597 » by Pharmcat » Wed May 20, 2009 2:25 am

i'll take clark if evans is gone
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#598 » by GuyverADL » Wed May 20, 2009 2:27 am

TrueWarrior wrote:Man Bluest is really still trying to convince people on Clark. He got Optimus on his side, which should tell us all something.


We need to be decent next year. Harrington should be trade bait.

Clark is too big and too skilled to pas up. We passed on McGee last year. Lets not pass on a talented big again this year.
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#599 » by god shammgod » Wed May 20, 2009 2:28 am

you're all lying to yourself. you know we're taking curry. why are you even bothering thinking otherwise ? i for one am not setting myself up for disappointment. again.
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Re: THE LOTTERY THREAD - Knicks pick 8th 

Post#600 » by TrueWarrior » Wed May 20, 2009 2:28 am

optimusADL wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:Man Bluest is really still trying to convince people on Clark. He got Optimus on his side, which should tell us all something.


We need to be decent next year. Harrington should be trade bait.

Clark is too big and too skilled to pas up. We passed on McGee last year. Lets not pass on a talented big again this year.


Clark plays smaller than Nate.

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