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Beasley: Could He Reach Melo Level or Close To It?

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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#61 » by TKF » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:59 pm

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TKF wrote:I figured you would pop up with this type of post.. but honestly, when you compare players, you take more than skill into thought.. it is mental make up as well... gallo is a seemingly stable and smart kid on the court.... beasley is a mental midget and a dope... ones mental make up has a lot to do with the kind of player he can become.. that is why it is laughable to think curry could become another shaq, although he had all the physical ability.. well most of us feel the same way.. Melo is a well grounded , smart basketball player... beasley is a dope, a bafoon, a guy who dyes his hair blond and grows dreads looking like a cross dressing las vegas drag queen.. he is the court jester... so that is why most of us don't feel he is in the same universe melo is in.. I suspect in 20 games or so, minny will be complaining about beasley... He just seems like that type of guy.. I can look in a persons eyes and tell a lot about them sometimes.. when I look at beasley, I see a guy who miami didn't just trade to make room for the big 3, but they had no more interest in that head case regardless...


This whole post is immature and hate filled. I expect better TKF. Beasley is only 21 years old. Melo was no saint at 21 either. I mean do you remember the brawl for christ sake? Just because Beasley smoked some weed and isnt clean cut doesnt mean hes a bad guy. In fact his teammates supposedly love him. Clyde was saying Kevin Love mentioned Beasley was one of the best locker room guys he played with so far.

Like Hawthorne said, everyone deserves a 2nd chance. You just sound bitter and pissed that he went off on us. Beasley isnt some scrub here. He went to school on us and made All Star shots. He has that ability. Just like Gallo has Dirk/Peja ability. Its all about being consistent. You cant sneeze at back to back 42 and 34 point games in WINS though, no matter who he played. Beasley is going to be very good.



Yeah TKF went a little cutthroat here but hey I know how he feels when a player rubs him the wrong way for whatever reason. Miami never wanted to draft Beasley and this is where TKF doesn't quite get it. The character issues were there but not as bad as believed. Miami made sure he went under the microscope right away. Riley had to talk himself into picking him(DUMB)

The kid wears blond Rastafarian dreads, gets caught smoking in an apartment and on a boat Miami proceeds to thrash him and treat him like scumbag because of lust and nervousness for Wade

Chandler wears a nappy Isaac Hayes gets caught with the icky icky but we love him treat him as an important building piece

Two different approaches

At the end of the day talent remains. According to Love Beasley is a great teammate. Besides Beasley acting like he was Big Man on Campus when he got to the NBA... really how is he different from anyone else where you stamp down his talent as if he doesn't matter.

Miami is underachieving too with more talent.... so appears their problems weren't related to Beasley



well you know what.. I have very little tolerance.. the age excuse for behavior is a cop out somewhat because these guys are paid to be better than the average 21 year old, on and off the court..

That cat rubs me the wrong way, he just does, and I just dont feel him at all... Whatever happened in miami happened and maybe they didn't want him there, and maybe they had good reason bluest.. anyway... you can pick on chandlers beard, which is kind of odd, but I will bet you anything that chandler is two times the man that beasley is, on and off the court.... It is not that beasley wears dreds, but I always wonder about guys who spend more time in the tatoo parlor and hair dresser than they probably do, perfecting their craft.. and maybe I am just nitpicking..

In the end, I feel comfortable with what I say about this guy... is he the kind of guy you would hitch your trailer to bluest?
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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#62 » by TheBluest » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:06 pm

TKF wrote:well you know what.. I have very little tolerance.. the age excuse for behavior is a cop out somewhat because these guys are paid to be better than the average 21 year old, on and off the court..

That cat rubs me the wrong way, he just does, and I just dont feel him at all... Whatever happened in miami happened and maybe they didn't want him there, and maybe they had good reason bluest.. anyway... you can pick on chandlers beard, which is kind of odd, but I will bet you anything that chandler is two times the man that beasley is, on and off the court.... It is not that beasley wears dreds, but I always wonder about guys who spend more time in the tatoo parlor and hair dresser than they probably do, perfecting their craft.. and maybe I am just nitpicking..

In the end, I feel comfortable with what I say about this guy... is he the kind of guy you would hitch your trailer to bluest?



Give him a little more time to mature TKF maybe this is the year. A lot of players have come into this league with character immaturity issues and get them cleaned up once reality hits them. Being around Love probably helps someone like Beasley and not some Miami Beach Fraud like Wade.
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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#63 » by TKF » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:09 pm

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TKF wrote:well you know what.. I have very little tolerance.. the age excuse for behavior is a cop out somewhat because these guys are paid to be better than the average 21 year old, on and off the court..

That cat rubs me the wrong way, he just does, and I just dont feel him at all... Whatever happened in miami happened and maybe they didn't want him there, and maybe they had good reason bluest.. anyway... you can pick on chandlers beard, which is kind of odd, but I will bet you anything that chandler is two times the man that beasley is, on and off the court.... It is not that beasley wears dreds, but I always wonder about guys who spend more time in the tatoo parlor and hair dresser than they probably do, perfecting their craft.. and maybe I am just nitpicking..

In the end, I feel comfortable with what I say about this guy... is he the kind of guy you would hitch your trailer to bluest?



Give him a little more time to mature TKF maybe this is the year. A lot of players have come into this league with character immaturity issues and get them cleaned up once reality hits them. Being around Love probably helps someone like Beasley and not some Miami Beach Fraud like Wade.



probably bluest... that is fair to give him time.. guys do mature and clean up their act, although I am not counting on big changes from this guy.. but if that is the case, lets hold off on the melo comparisons until he does mature and clean up his act... fair enough?
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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#64 » by TrueWarrior » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:14 pm

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probably bluest... that is fair to give him time.. guys do mature and clean up their act, although I am not counting on big changes from this guy.. but if that is the case, lets hold off on the melo comparisons until he does mature and clean up his act... fair enough?


Did you miss my point that Melo was no saint as a young cat either? He looked pretty "thuggy" you could say and had a selfish attitude about him. He was complaining alot in the media and just didnt seem like a winner, capping out with him hitting and quitting Mardy in MSG. Then he met LaLa and seems to have grown up alot and into a mature adult.

So yea 21 years old is very young. Beez could mature or he could go the Marbury route. But you cant deny his talent. Its immense and there was a reason he was picked so high and dominated college as a freshman. He was getting compared to Melo back then, and last night it looked like I was watching the same guy. But to each their own. You dont like him. Thats cool.
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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#65 » by TheBluest » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:16 pm

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TKF wrote:well you know what.. I have very little tolerance.. the age excuse for behavior is a cop out somewhat because these guys are paid to be better than the average 21 year old, on and off the court..

That cat rubs me the wrong way, he just does, and I just dont feel him at all... Whatever happened in miami happened and maybe they didn't want him there, and maybe they had good reason bluest.. anyway... you can pick on chandlers beard, which is kind of odd, but I will bet you anything that chandler is two times the man that beasley is, on and off the court.... It is not that beasley wears dreds, but I always wonder about guys who spend more time in the tatoo parlor and hair dresser than they probably do, perfecting their craft.. and maybe I am just nitpicking..

In the end, I feel comfortable with what I say about this guy... is he the kind of guy you would hitch your trailer to bluest?



Give him a little more time to mature TKF maybe this is the year. A lot of players have come into this league with character immaturity issues and get them cleaned up once reality hits them. Being around Love probably helps someone like Beasley and not some Miami Beach Fraud like Wade.



probably bluest... that is fair to give him time.. guys do mature and clean up their act, although I am not counting on big changes from this guy.. but if that is the case, lets hold off on the melo comparisons until he does mature and clean up his act... fair enough?



Yeah I said many posts ago he isn't Melo. Also immaturity comes in so many different forms. Like Nate Robinson on the court immaturity issues....Allen Iverson off the court immaturity issues....Paul Pierce on the court immaturity issues...Kobe Byrant on and off court immaturity issues....Melo on court immaturity issues....Josh Smith on court immaturity issues.....Arenas on and off the court immaturity issues....Lebron on and off the court immaturity issues and guess what almost every single one although more talented or as talented as Beasley displayed them after the age of 21


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Re: Beasley: Could He Reach Melo Level or Close To It? 

Post#66 » by magnumt » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:46 pm

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Flaming Mo wrote:Melo level?! Come on guys, does it take 2 games these days to be on superstar level?!

Credit to Beasley for shredding the Knicks and Gallinari and Sacramento the game before but hey, he is the only real option on a horrible team and of course he will score. We all knew he is a talented scorer but this game is no indication of how good or bad he is as we have seen players shred the Knicks for years now. Please put things in perspective.


Up until the 4th when Love went off, I don't think Beasley shredded Gallo at all.

Infact, if you go back and look a the 1st 3 Quarters, Gallo got Beasley into foul trouble twice! Gallo also was leading the Game in scoring too until the 3rd.

Why D'Antoni took Gallo out for so long is dumb IMO. :nonono:

--Mags



Beasley had 19 1rst half pts most of them on Gallo but if you think differently go ahead and check Wesley Johnson's productivity as he would have been the alter guarded player. Gallo had about 3 very good defensive exchanges with Beas but after that he was garbage. Beasley was Gallo's 1rst half assignment predominantly and Chandler's second half assignment. Chandler made it tough on him when driving but shooting had all kinds of problems, nevertheless Chandler had 5blks on the night so his defense was showing up somewhere. Fans let too many INDIVIDUAL PLAYS define how a player faired or didn't fair sorry you have to look at the full body of work. There was a reason D'AnToni made the switch in the second half with Chandler, unfortunately it didn't work. More testament of how good Beasley is if he gives 2 solid young players trouble over 4qrts....he's not TITO


And Gallo had 21 at the half.

Using your logic, Beasley did a WORSE job on Gallo, than Gallo did on Beasley. And the aforementioned foul trouble that Gallo got Beasley in as well further backs that.

But yeah... :thumbsup:

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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#67 » by TKF » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:50 pm

Yeah I said many posts ago he isn't Melo. Also immaturity comes in so many different forms. Like Nate Robinson on the court immaturity issues....Allen Iverson off the court immaturity issues....Paul Pierce on the court immaturity issues...Kobe Byrant on and off court immaturity issues....Melo on court immaturity issues....Josh Smith on court immaturity issues.....Arenas on and off the court immaturity issues....Lebron on and off the court immaturity issues and guess what almost every single one although more talented or as talented as Beasley displayed them after the age of 21


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well I won't excuse anyone's immaturity issues, but those guys established themselves as stars, so yea, off the court, they had issues, didn't effect their on the court work... but now you see it comming back to bite them.. arenas, and to some extent iverson of course.. Kobe, not sure about immaturity issues.. that guy took his work very serious and 5 rings later I don't know how you can question that.. if you call cheating immature, then you have a lot of immature adults...

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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#68 » by KnicksScholar24 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:59 pm

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moocow007 wrote:Beasley needed 29 shots to get 34 points (see the argument why Chandler's early numbers...aka 20 shots for 20 points...were no good)


Chandler could never do the things Beasley was doing tonight. He put the team on his back in the clutch and was that go to guy we lacked. He was beasting us with all star moves. IDC about his PPS because he scored when it mattered. His mid range game was flawless.


Chandler could never do the things Beasley was doing? You must have missed 2nd or 3rd game of the regular season when Chandler put the team on his back and brought then back from a big second quarter deficit. Either that, or you have no f***king clue what you're talking about.

Also, Chandler's early numbers were fine. He doesn't make a lot of threes and he hardly gets to the line, which explains why this shot-per-point numbers were they way they were, and it also explains why those number were actually good. It means he would have had to be shooting around 50% from the field to average a shot-per-point. Everyone knows Chandler needs to get to the free throw line more, and that would give him free points (and take away shot attempts) so that his FGA attempts would be higher than his point total. Everyone also knows he should stop shooting so many 3s, or practice more so that he can shoot over 30% from behind the arc.

Assuming he continues to not make a bunch of free throws or threes, I'll take a shot-per-point from Chandler every game. It means he's shooting a high percentage from the field.

Beasley has a flawless mid-range game?? Based on what? His last two games? Ugh.
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Re: Beasley: Could He Reach Melo Level or Close To It? 

Post#69 » by Paeds » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:00 pm

Beasley Absolutely has the Talent and Skill to reach Melo's level but his lack of focus, immaturity and mental issues are his biggest obstacles
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Post#70 » by TheBluest » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:06 pm

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And Gallo had 21 at the half.

Using your logic, Beasley did a WORSE job on Gallo, than Gallo did on Beasley. And the aforementioned foul trouble that Gallo got Beasley in as well further backs that.

But yeah... :thumbsup:

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Beasley did not do a good job covering Gallo 1rst half...if this is what you're looking for. I 100% totally agree. Gallo did himself no favors by making it easy on him second half settling for bad shot selection. Gallo could have done more damage and scored 25+ if he/we played a smarter 2nd half. All I'm saying is offensively Beasley gave both our players fits and I won't minimize what he did offensively....but defensively he wasn't good. I also got on Love's first half performance which was bad.

I'm not advocating acquiring Beasley(never have really). He's not as bad as some make him out to be that's all. Nothing more nothing less. I even said I don't think he or Love were as good as they were yesterday.... but good players nonetheless.
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Post#71 » by Piecake » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:27 pm

As a wolves fan, I dont think has been a chucker at all. Sure, the last 2 games he has shot a ton, but when you make 55% of them you should be shooting a lot. I mean, who else on our team is going to score for us? Bassy? Darko? Brewer? Tolliver? Ellington? I sure dont want those under 40% shooters taking more shots...

Love's offensive game consists of spot up jumpers, put backs, and the occasional post move. At least, thats what it should consist of. His efficiency has been terrible this season because he is trying to create

Wes is the only other player on our team right now who has an offensive game, but he is really inconsistent right now. Not surprising since he's a rookie

Hopefully our offense will improve once Flynn and Webster come back, but until that happens it has been quite nice seeing someone actually being efficient on the offensive end.

Concerning his attitude, so far it has been great. Will that continue? Who knows, but right now I have been impressed.

And yes, his defense is average, at best. He does put effort into it though
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Post#73 » by TKF » Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:59 pm

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probably bluest... that is fair to give him time.. guys do mature and clean up their act, although I am not counting on big changes from this guy.. but if that is the case, lets hold off on the melo comparisons until he does mature and clean up his act... fair enough?


Did you miss my point that Melo was no saint as a young cat either? He looked pretty "thuggy" you could say and had a selfish attitude about him. He was complaining alot in the media and just didnt seem like a winner, capping out with him hitting and quitting Mardy in MSG. Then he met LaLa and seems to have grown up alot and into a mature adult.

So yea 21 years old is very young. Beez could mature or he could go the Marbury route. But you cant deny his talent. Its immense and there was a reason he was picked so high and dominated college as a freshman. He was getting compared to Melo back then, and last night it looked like I was watching the same guy. But to each their own. You dont like him. Thats cool.


carmelo was not thuggy.. and we use the word immature. Heck anyone can be immature because of their age, to an extent... I am talking about foolish, bafoonery, morinic behavior.. that describes beasley... why do you insist on making this connection between the two?... if beasly had the mental wherewithall of a carmelo anthony, he would still be with miami, because according to you the only think that is now seperating the two is immaturity... right? and I am sorry, just can't see miami trading a guy like melo...
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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#74 » by TrueWarrior » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:08 pm

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Chandler could never do the things Beasley was doing? You must have missed 2nd or 3rd game of the regular season when Chandler put the team on his back and brought then back from a big second quarter deficit. Either that, or you have no f***king clue what you're talking about.


Chandler only shot 45% during his first three games (down to 42% now), Beasley has shot 55% the last two (47% on the year and 42% from 3). Also Beasley has led his team to 2 wins and performed IN THE CLUTCH as the GO TO GUY. Chandler did all his damage in the 2nd and 3rd quarters and then fizzled out in the 4th. Step outside Chandlers sack for a sec and look at the difference.

TKF wrote:carmelo was not thuggy.. and we use the word immature. Heck anyone can be immature because of their age, to an extent... I am talking about foolish, bafoonery, morinic behavior.. that describes beasley... why do you insist on making this connection between the two?... if beasly had the mental wherewithall of a carmelo anthony, he would still be with miami, because according to you the only think that is now seperating the two is immaturity... right? and I am sorry, just can't see miami trading a guy like melo...


Melo got cited with marijuana possession 04 and again in 06. I guess you forgot about that (and Im a former pothead who thinks weed isnt a big deal, but as a pro athlete you should know better to not get caught at least). IDK how you can forget Melo had attitude problems at first either. Also again why are you ignoring the brawl since I mentioned it twice? You dont think that was bad behavior? If Beasley did that against us you would lose a nut. You just have a hate for Beasley so it is what it is. He has just as much talent as Melo but its up to him to keep his head on straight.
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Post#75 » by TheBluest » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:14 pm

Melo was also busted for a DUI in 2008 not sure if this classifies as thuggery and what not. Geroge Karl said he wasn't a good locker room guy when he first got to Denver either. Beasley conducted himself poorly but Miami negatively magnified his character flaws
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Post#76 » by TKF » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:21 pm

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Chandler could never do the things Beasley was doing? You must have missed 2nd or 3rd game of the regular season when Chandler put the team on his back and brought then back from a big second quarter deficit. Either that, or you have no f***king clue what you're talking about.


Chandler only shot 45% during his first three games (down to 42% now), Beasley has shot 55% the last two (47% on the year and 42% from 3). Also Beasley has led his team to 2 wins and performed IN THE CLUTCH as the GO TO GUY. Chandler did all his damage in the 2nd and 3rd quarters and then fizzled out in the 4th. Step outside Chandlers sack for a sec and look at the difference.

TKF wrote:carmelo was not thuggy.. and we use the word immature. Heck anyone can be immature because of their age, to an extent... I am talking about foolish, bafoonery, morinic behavior.. that describes beasley... why do you insist on making this connection between the two?... if beasly had the mental wherewithall of a carmelo anthony, he would still be with miami, because according to you the only think that is now seperating the two is immaturity... right? and I am sorry, just can't see miami trading a guy like melo...


Melo got cited with marijuana possession 04 and again in 06. I guess you forgot about that (and Im a former pothead who thinks weed isnt a big deal, but as a pro athlete you should know better to not get caught at least). IDK how you can forget Melo had attitude problems at first either. Also again why are you ignoring the brawl since I mentioned it twice? You dont think that was bad behavior? If Beasley did that against us you would lose a nut. You just have a hate for Beasley so it is what it is. He has just as much talent as Melo but its up to him to keep his head on straight.



I never mentioned any pot charges. A lot of players do it, and I think it is stupid... AS far as the brawl, who cares, players fight, the game is emotional, what does that have to do with maturity.. DR J. choked larry bird.. big deal bro..

But here is the difference.. despite melo's "problems" He still is a star on the court.. from day 1.. so obviously he has the ability mentally to focus his attention in the right areas... beasly does not so far and has not up to this point.. that is the difference.. again, stop trying to make this connection... you are mentioning guys who have proven they have the professional maturity along with the ability to put it together on the court.... beasly is not that guy.. not yet, maybe not ever. so really, until he shows me he can focus for more than a couple of games.. the comparison is somewhat ridiculous..
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Post#77 » by sjm34 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:23 am

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Chandler could never do the things Beasley was doing? You must have missed 2nd or 3rd game of the regular season when Chandler put the team on his back and brought then back from a big second quarter deficit. Either that, or you have no f***king clue what you're talking about.


Chandler only shot 45% during his first three games (down to 42% now), Beasley has shot 55% the last two (47% on the year and 42% from 3). Also Beasley has led his team to 2 wins and performed IN THE CLUTCH as the GO TO GUY. Chandler did all his damage in the 2nd and 3rd quarters and then fizzled out in the 4th. Step outside Chandlers sack for a sec and look at the difference.

TKF wrote:carmelo was not thuggy.. and we use the word immature. Heck anyone can be immature because of their age, to an extent... I am talking about foolish, bafoonery, morinic behavior.. that describes beasley... why do you insist on making this connection between the two?... if beasly had the mental wherewithall of a carmelo anthony, he would still be with miami, because according to you the only think that is now seperating the two is immaturity... right? and I am sorry, just can't see miami trading a guy like melo...


Melo got cited with marijuana possession 04 and again in 06. I guess you forgot about that (and Im a former pothead who thinks weed isnt a big deal, but as a pro athlete you should know better to not get caught at least). IDK how you can forget Melo had attitude problems at first either. Also again why are you ignoring the brawl since I mentioned it twice? You dont think that was bad behavior? If Beasley did that against us you would lose a nut. You just have a hate for Beasley so it is what it is. He has just as much talent as Melo but its up to him to keep his head on straight.



I never mentioned any pot charges. A lot of players do it, and I think it is stupid... AS far as the brawl, who cares, players fight, the game is emotional, what does that have to do with maturity.. DR J. choked larry bird.. big deal bro..

But here is the difference.. despite melo's "problems" He still is a star on the court.. from day 1.. so obviously he has the ability mentally to focus his attention in the right areas... beasly does not so far and has not up to this point.. that is the difference.. again, stop trying to make this connection... you are mentioning guys who have proven they have the professional maturity along with the ability to put it together on the court.... beasly is not that guy.. not yet, maybe not ever. so really, until he shows me he can focus for more than a couple of games.. the comparison is somewhat ridiculous..


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Melo was three times the punk Beasley could ever be. Apparently some have forgotten the Stop Snitching video he appeared in. The one where they threaten witnesses that testify against criminals. First he came out and said he didn't know he was in the video. I guess that camera filming you from five feet away wasn't a big enough clue. The guy is either a liar or a "buffoon". Then there was the pot in the backpack, where rather than take responsibility he had a friend step up and take the blame. Then the DUI while driving at ridiculous speeds all over the road.

Funny that you just dismissed the fight. I wouldn't call it a fight, I'd call it suckerpunching and running like a little girl.

The one common denominator with Melo is that all his actions are in one way or another harming other individuals. Beasley acted like a punk and smoked pot. That wasn't hurting anyone other than himself.

The truth is that Beasley shouldn't be compared to Melo because Melo was way worse at that same age.

As far as stats go, Melo was nothing to write home about in his first two years. He was a poor shooter with horibble 3pt shooting until his fifth season. The only thing he did well was get to the line. Let's also not forget that Melo is considered a bad defender, giving very little effort.

The OP said something to the effect that Beasley's game reminded him of Melo's and offensively I'd say that was dead on. Thank god Beasley hasn't acted off the court in similar fashion to Melo.

Oh, I almost forgot the Melo's biggest indiscretion (imo) on the court. In a game against Wade and the heat in Denver, Wade made a move to get by Melo and the ref called Melo for a foul. Melo didn't agree with the call and promptly picked up the BB and underhanded threw the ball with all his force out of bounds striking a young girl (around 7 or 8) in the face. I am pretty sure her father wanted to deck Melo but security was there immediately and the guy decided to tend to his daughter instead. The nuggets offered her a signed Melo jersey and tickets, but she declined the jersey and asked for one from Earl Boykins instead. The odd part of this is that Melo never even received a T for the incident while KG in Minny was ejected in game that same week for literally tossing a ball ten feet that struck a fan.
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Re: Beasley: Could He Reach Melo Level or Close To It? 

Post#78 » by CKamm1 » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:32 am

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Re: Beasley = Next Melo? 

Post#79 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:58 am

TKF wrote:
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probably bluest... that is fair to give him time.. guys do mature and clean up their act, although I am not counting on big changes from this guy.. but if that is the case, lets hold off on the melo comparisons until he does mature and clean up his act... fair enough?


Did you miss my point that Melo was no saint as a young cat either? He looked pretty "thuggy" you could say and had a selfish attitude about him. He was complaining alot in the media and just didnt seem like a winner, capping out with him hitting and quitting Mardy in MSG. Then he met LaLa and seems to have grown up alot and into a mature adult.

So yea 21 years old is very young. Beez could mature or he could go the Marbury route. But you cant deny his talent. Its immense and there was a reason he was picked so high and dominated college as a freshman. He was getting compared to Melo back then, and last night it looked like I was watching the same guy. But to each their own. You dont like him. Thats cool.


carmelo was not thuggy.. and we use the word immature. Heck anyone can be immature because of their age, to an extent... I am talking about foolish, bafoonery, morinic behavior.. that describes beasley... why do you insist on making this connection between the two?... if beasly had the mental wherewithall of a carmelo anthony, he would still be with miami, because according to you the only think that is now seperating the two is immaturity... right? and I am sorry, just can't see miami trading a guy like melo...


TKF, how is Beasley "thuggy?" (Btw, what does "thuggy" mean?)

The guy smoke weed. Big f-ing deal. Bill Walton would also smoke a lot of weed when he played for Portland. He said it helped him relax after games ... and he is right. Beasley hasn't hurt anybody. He doesn't go around toting a gun (as far as we know). He hasn't been accused of beating women. He's not an assaultive individual. So, WTF is you beef with him?

There are two separate incidents involving marijuana:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Be ... urt_issues

Off court issues

On September 3, 2008, at the NBA's Rookie Transition Program, Beasley was involved in an incident along with fellow rookies Mario Chalmers and Darrell Arthur. Police responded to the hotel room of Chalmers and Arthur following a fire alarm at 2 a.m. and claimed that the room smelled strongly of burning marijuana, but none was found and no charges were filed. Chalmers and Arthur were excused from the camp[ because of the incident and were later fined $20,000 each for missing the rookie camp, but were not fined or suspended for any drug-related violations. Both later denied any involvement with marijuana. Originally, ESPN reported that Beasley was also present in the room, but was not asked to leave camp. The story was later updated and any mention of Beasley was removed from the article.

On September 18, 2008, Beasley was fined $50,000 by the league for his involvement in the incident after Pat Riley forced him to confess to league officials that he had slipped out the door when the police arrived.

On August 24, 2009, Beasley reportedly checked into a Houston rehab center, just days after he posted pictures of himself to Twitter with what some have speculated to be marijuana in the background.
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Re: Beasley: Could He Reach Melo Level or Close To It? 

Post#80 » by Klomp » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:14 am

TKF wrote:I figured you would pop up with this type of post.. but honestly, when you compare players, you take more than skill into thought.. it is mental make up as well... gallo is a seemingly stable and smart kid on the court.... beasley is a mental midget and a dope... ones mental make up has a lot to do with the kind of player he can become.. that is why it is laughable to think curry could become another shaq, although he had all the physical ability.. well most of us feel the same way.. Melo is a well grounded , smart basketball player... beasley is a dope, a bafoon, a guy who dyes his hair blond and grows dreads looking like a cross dressing las vegas drag queen.. he is the court jester... so that is why most of us don't feel he is in the same universe melo is in.. I suspect in 20 games or so, minny will be complaining about beasley... He just seems like that type of guy.. I can look in a persons eyes and tell a lot about them sometimes.. when I look at beasley, I see a guy who miami didn't just trade to make room for the big 3, but they had no more interest in that head case regardless...


I honestly think that Michael Beasley is one of the most misunderstood kids in the NBA. When he came to Minnesota, a lot of Wolves posters were unsure of the move for some of the same reasons you are stating TKF. However, with his play on the court and his demeanor off the court, he has QUICKLY become the fan-favorite in Minnesota. Watch this video from Wolves Media Day and see if any opinions are changed about his "mental issues."

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pNJew2pkzU[/youtube]
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