[Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4

[dancing dervish]

I think it's obvious who lacks reading comprehension. It's obvious who is facing reality and who is trying to live in his own universe and just deny the truth. Where in this whole thing does he imply that he likes D'Antoni's system?He say it's and up and down style with extra possessions which is a very neutral statement. Both teams get extra possessions so it's not something that benefits only your team. Then you have him taking a clear dig at the system or at least at what NBA players seem to think about it (lack of defense). It's beyond me how anyone can spin that into "he likes D#Antoni's system but wants to keep it secret" type of thing. Seriously SMH.

[GONYK]

LOL at the Bulls. People still buying the Chicago rumors that Wojo made up? And that has been refuted by both Chicago fans and Chicago press?

Oh, you added more. Why laugh at the Bulls? They are just being used as a contract/trade ploy - just like some guys use the Knicks. All local writers say a 'Melo trade to Bulls is extremely unlikely & there is no evidence Chicago has even discussed any trade with Denver

Agreed. I am laughing because dancing dervish either

A.) doesn't realize that
B.) doesn't care because he has a new story to spin.


I mean no disrespect to your team

[K_ick_God]

LOL at the Bulls. People still buying the Chicago rumors that Wojo made up? And that has been refuted by both Chicago fans and Chicago press?

Oh, you added more. Why laugh at the Bulls? They are just being used as a contract/trade ploy - just like some guys use the Knicks. All local writers say a 'Melo trade to Bulls is extremely unlikely & there is no evidence Chicago has even discussed any trade with Denver

Agreed. I am laughing because dancing dervish either

A.) doesn't realize that
B.) doesn't care because he has a new story to spin.


I mean no disrespect to your team

dervish is just the latest over-passionate Knicks fan with doomsday scenarios that he thinks will really happen because he has a bad case of BFS. Oh well.

[dancing dervish]

So you are seriously trying to tell me that Melo's recent comment is not negative towards D'Antoni?Seriously?Then I think we have complete different view of reality. I see this comment as pretty much a wake up call. Something like:

If you guys want me to join you you better play some tough defense and make the playoffs. I'm not gonna save a 30 win team and put myself into a position of getting my ass handed to me by strong defensive team every year in the playoffs. You better show me you can play defense and win games and then I'll join as the missing piece--not the guy taking a defenseless coach from 30 wins to 50 wins and a playoff seed.

[Punk]

Lol You all do realize Melo and LeBron were the first to praise Dantoni's system and coaching during Team USA right?

Sounds to me like he's covering his clues or tracks. Any wrestling fan knows what a "swerve" is. Melo seems to be pulling one. We all know they got they're ass kicked by Phoenix's defense last night. It's more so about players with a defensive mind set than a system but I do agree Dantoni would have to go.

But thinking he wouldn't play here because we play up tempo is stupid. Anybody thinking he wants the Bulls or Nets because they are defensive minded is stupid.

[Da_Mane_Man]

I think it's obvious who lacks reading comprehension. It's obvious who is facing reality and who is trying to live in his own universe and just deny the truth. Where in this whole thing does he imply that he likes D'Antoni's system?He say it's and up and down style with extra possessions which is a very neutral statement. Both teams get extra possessions so it's not something that benefits only your team. Then you have him taking a clear dig at the system or at least at what NBA players seem to think about it (lack of defense). It's beyond me how anyone can spin that into "he likes D#Antoni's system but wants to keep it secret" type of thing. Seriously SMH.

so you don't believe AT ALL that NY is where melo wants to play? not factoring in coaches for a minute, do you think melo wants to be a knick ... based on all the reports?

[K_ick_God]

So you are seriously trying to tell me that Melo's recent comment is not negative towards D'Antoni?Seriously?Then I think we have complete different view of reality. I see this comment as pretty much a wake up call. Something like:

If you guys want me to join you you better play some tough defense and make the playoffs. I'm not gonna save a 30 win team and put myself into a position of getting my ass handed to me by strong defensive team every year in the playoffs. You better show me you can play defense and win games and then I'll join as the missing piece--not the guy taking a defenseless coach from 30 wins to 50 wins and a playoff seed.

I'd love MD to be gone frankly. I dislike the job he's done strongly. But no, I don't read Melo's comments that way and given that he was talking to the Denver Post, I don't take it as a knock against MD at all. Probably not even a little.

I strongly suspect, and believe based on previous comments in the summer, that Melo wants to play up tempo and for MD. He's trying to temper that a little with the Denver media, but it's there and it's real. He not only is not saying he won't play for MD, I believe it's actually quite the opposite.

[Lord Commander]

Random thought: After hearing these comments, will Gallo lay down and get raped by Melo tonight to further expose Mike D's no-defense system?

[dancing dervish]

Yeah thinking he likes Chicago because they have a great foundation in Rose,Boozer and Noah is stupid. Why play with Rose,Boozer and Noah when you can play with just Stoudemire---if you are Melo you have to be completely stupid to think that way.

Why play with a top 5 PG, a top 10 PF and a top 10 Center when you can play with Stoudemire.

This is the same type of stuff I've read on knick forums prior to the Lberon free agency. He is given hidden signs, he wants NY but just wants it to be dramatic----blablabla---maybe hmm no. Maybe he just wants a team he is sure he can beat the Heat with?And maybe he'd think "Hey playing with Rose,Boozer,Noah and a defensive genius in Thibodeau is better than getting my ass handed to me every year in the second round of the playoffs with a coach that couldn't spell the word defense if his life depended on it."

[Marty McFly]

well, that says it all. walsh has alot of work to do.

[towelie]

Defense or no defense, we need to win and make the playoffs this season if we want to attract Melo in FA (or we can just trade for him, but the value of our players are minimal if we don't start winning anyway).

This isn't a throwaway season like the ones before LeBron. And even then, if we had made the playoffs last year, the Decision could've been completely in our favor. At the very least, it would've given more exposure to guys like Gallo and Chandler.

IMO, there's more riding on our success this season than just a Houston pick swap, or ending the losing culture.

[seren]

Yeah thinking he likes Chicago because they have a great foundation in Rose,Boozer and Noah is stupid. Why play with Rose,Boozer and Noah when you can play with just Stoudemire---if you are Melo you have to be completely stupid to think that way.

If this is true, that means it is not about winning. Chicago, with all due respect, won zilch.

[-Illmatic-]

I think Melo ultimately ends up with the Hornets.

[Punk]

Yeah thinking he likes Chicago because they have a great foundation in Rose,Boozer and Noah is stupid. Why play with Rose,Boozer and Noah when you can play with just Stoudemire---if you are Melo you have to be completely stupid to think that way.

Why play with a top 5 PG, a top 10 PF and a top 10 Center when you can play with Stoudemire.

This is the same type of stuff I've read on knick forums prior to the Lberon free agency. He is given hidden signs, he wants NY but just wants it to be dramatic----blablabla---maybe hmm no. Maybe he just wants a team he is sure he can beat the Heat with?And maybe he'd think "Hey playing with Rose,Boozer,Noah and a defensive genius in Thibodeau is better than getting my ass handed to me every year in the second round of the playoffs with a coach that couldn't spell the word defense if his life depended on it."

You do realize Amare is not the only Knick on the roster right? There is Wilson Chandler, Gallo (can play at a high level at a lesser role), Felton (say what u want but he still is a good PG), Douglas, Turiaf.

You do realize if he wanted the Bulls he would probably end up having to get traded there right? Which means Deng, Noah and their bench end up Denver.

Atleast if he comes here, he has Amare, Felton, Chandler, Gallo. Then we put the right pieces around him.

[GONYK]

Yeah thinking he likes Chicago because they have a great foundation in Rose,Boozer and Noah is stupid. Why play with Rose,Boozer and Noah when you can play with just Stoudemire---if you are Melo you have to be completely stupid to think that way.

Why play with a top 5 PG, a top 10 PF and a top 10 Center when you can play with Stoudemire.

This is the same type of stuff I've read on knick forums prior to the Lberon free agency. He is given hidden signs, he wants NY but just wants it to be dramatic----blablabla---maybe hmm no. Maybe he just wants a team he is sure he can beat the Heat with?And maybe he'd think "Hey playing with Rose,Boozer,Noah and a defensive genius in Thibodeau is better than getting my ass handed to me every year in the second round of the playoffs with a coach that couldn't spell the word defense if his life depended on it."

Yes...let's ignore that he has never shown an interest in Chicago, Chicago has never shown an interest in him, Chicago fans have said Melo isn't coming, Chicago press has said Melo isn't being pursued.

Let's also ignore that this is not a basketball move. Let's ignore that he has ties to the area and that his wife wants to be here. Let's also ignore that this whole thing started when we got Amare. Let's also ignore that we clearly have back channel communication with Melo.

[God Squad]

I don't blame Melo for his comments. Knicks play very slack D. Not saying the culture can't be changed, Just time is running out if you want a chance at Melo.

And believe me, Winning a championship WILL be key for melo. Imagine he wins one before Lebron? Think about it. He needs to pair up with CP3 if he wants that ring. IMO NY is not the answer. Not now at least.

[GONYK]

I think Melo ultimately ends up with the Hornets.

[Punk]

Yeah thinking he likes Chicago because they have a great foundation in Rose,Boozer and Noah is stupid. Why play with Rose,Boozer and Noah when you can play with just Stoudemire---if you are Melo you have to be completely stupid to think that way.

Why play with a top 5 PG, a top 10 PF and a top 10 Center when you can play with Stoudemire.

This is the same type of stuff I've read on knick forums prior to the Lberon free agency. He is given hidden signs, he wants NY but just wants it to be dramatic----blablabla---maybe hmm no. Maybe he just wants a team he is sure he can beat the Heat with?And maybe he'd think "Hey playing with Rose,Boozer,Noah and a defensive genius in Thibodeau is better than getting my ass handed to me every year in the second round of the playoffs with a coach that couldn't spell the word defense if his life depended on it."

Yes...let's ignore that he has never shown an interest in Chicago, Chicago has never shown an interest in him, Chicago fans have said Melo isn't coming, Chicago press has said Melo isn't being pursued.

Let's also ignore that this is not a basketball move. Let's ignore that he has ties to the area and that his wife wants to be here. Let's also ignore that this whole thing started when we got Amare. Let's also ignore that we clearly have back channel communication with Melo.

Let's all also ignore the fact Chicago has no place in his life. Let's also ignore that Thibodeau is still a rookie head coach with no playoffs under his belt yet and even though Dantoni is a (Please Use More Appropriate Word)....He still had a 50 win team.

If Melo cared about defense so much then his Nuggets would not have fallen out of the playoffs to the Jazz and Phoenix would not have nearly made it to the Finals.

Just because he makes a defensive comment doesn't mean a damn thing. You can still play uptempo and have a defensive mindset.

[K_ick_God]

Yeah thinking he likes Chicago because they have a great foundation in Rose,Boozer and Noah is stupid. Why play with Rose,Boozer and Noah when you can play with just Stoudemire---if you are Melo you have to be completely stupid to think that way.

Why play with a top 5 PG, a top 10 PF and a top 10 Center when you can play with Stoudemire.

This is the same type of stuff I've read on knick forums prior to the Lberon free agency. He is given hidden signs, he wants NY but just wants it to be dramatic----blablabla---maybe hmm no. Maybe he just wants a team he is sure he can beat the Heat with?And maybe he'd think "Hey playing with Rose,Boozer,Noah and a defensive genius in Thibodeau is better than getting my ass handed to me every year in the second round of the playoffs with a coach that couldn't spell the word defense if his life depended on it."

I'm not saying that the Bulls do not have a chance. I think they do. But this was not an attempt to say he won't play for D'Antoni or that he doesn't like D'Antoni's system, or to put the Knicks on notice, etc. All of that is false.

I think he would say yes to the Bulls and they are in the hunt. But he did call them the third best basketball city. Hmmmmmm.

[dancing dervish]

Yeah thinking he likes Chicago because they have a great foundation in Rose,Boozer and Noah is stupid. Why play with Rose,Boozer and Noah when you can play with just Stoudemire---if you are Melo you have to be completely stupid to think that way.

Why play with a top 5 PG, a top 10 PF and a top 10 Center when you can play with Stoudemire.

This is the same type of stuff I've read on knick forums prior to the Lberon free agency. He is given hidden signs, he wants NY but just wants it to be dramatic----blablabla---maybe hmm no. Maybe he just wants a team he is sure he can beat the Heat with?And maybe he'd think "Hey playing with Rose,Boozer,Noah and a defensive genius in Thibodeau is better than getting my ass handed to me every year in the second round of the playoffs with a coach that couldn't spell the word defense if his life depended on it."

Yes...let's ignore that he has never shown an interest in Chicago, Chicago has never shown an interest in him, Chicago fans have said Melo isn't coming, Chicago press has said Melo isn't being pursued.

Let's also ignore that this is not a basketball move. Let's ignore that he has ties to the area and that his wife wants to be here. Let's also ignore that this whole thing started when we got Amare. Let's also ignore that we clearly have back channel communication with Melo.

Let's ignore the fact that all this means absolutely nothing. Let's ignore that this organization and it's fans thought we are in the driver's seat for Lebron because we had two max slots and other team's weren't able to achieve that. We were obviously right-----oh wait.

Let's ignore the fact that having ties to this area means exactly nothing. Just ask Tony Parker how much he cares about his wife's ties and NY.

Seriously some fans will never,never,ever learn from the past.