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Re: Amare and Shumpert for Pau 

Post#61 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:36 pm

DowNY wrote:Yeah, let us squeeze our window to win from 3, maybe 4 seasons down to 2 seasons. And while you're at it let's give away our only SG who happen to have good potential, is one of our only bright spots of the future, and is on a 4yr deal for less than 2 mil a year because once we get Pau we can get an even older player in Nash & draft a rookie SG in the draft (oh wait...) or we can let TD & Fields still rotate at the SG spot. Yep, that's what we want. :D

We all agree the Shump part is a no go, but Pau for Amar'e doesn't dwindle the team chances of winning at all, it increases the next two years chances, and Pau's deal is 1 year shorter anyway.

I'd do a straight up swap immediately.
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Re: Amare and Shumpert for Pau 

Post#62 » by Marty McFly » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:38 pm

knicksosmoove wrote:i would LOVE to pair Pau with Carmelo. Love Pau's game. smart, smart player with a lot of finesse, and he's ambidextrous and huge. I would actually think about that trade if we got another lakers piece back too (one of the rookies or mcroberts). i would love to get pau or luis scola, but my problem with those guys is they are old. this is why i would focus on bargnani.


bargs is interesting, not too sure if TO would trade him though. but a **** stretch 4/5 on this team would create so much **** space, man. i think bargs makes like 10 mill a year so I'm not sure how to make salaries work.
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Re: Amare and Shumpert for Pau 

Post#63 » by Iman Shumpert » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:41 pm

rl2011 wrote:Pau Gasol is playng like absolute garbage for LAL. He is 3yrs older and is not as good of a player as Amare. He has a much better post game but amare is much more athletic and better finisher and when Baron comes back should be much more efficient. Remember Amare is still averaging like 20 a game. He isnt Rashard Lewis'ng us.

Gasol's a superior player and his game ages better. He's not playing worse. Kobe's chucking so there's less shots for everyone. He's shooting 53% compared to Amare's 40%. HUGE difference. And Gasol can score on his own on the post. Amare has no such skill.
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Re: Amare and Shumpert for Pau 

Post#64 » by knicksosmoove » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:48 pm

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knicksosmoove wrote:i would LOVE to pair Pau with Carmelo. Love Pau's game. smart, smart player with a lot of finesse, and he's ambidextrous and huge. I would actually think about that trade if we got another lakers piece back too (one of the rookies or mcroberts). i would love to get pau or luis scola, but my problem with those guys is they are old. this is why i would focus on bargnani.


bargs is interesting, not too sure if TO would trade him though. but a **** stretch 4/5 on this team would create so much **** space, man. i think bargs makes like 10 mill a year so I'm not sure how to make salaries work.


i wonder if they would do amare + throw in (maybe fields or toney) for bargnani and calderon. i think the salaries work (didn't check though). i think bargnani is actually the most ideal power forward to put next to carmelo this side of dirk nowitzki.
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Re: Amare and Shumpert for Pau 

Post#65 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:51 pm

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REVOLVER wrote:
knicksosmoove wrote:i would LOVE to pair Pau with Carmelo. Love Pau's game. smart, smart player with a lot of finesse, and he's ambidextrous and huge. I would actually think about that trade if we got another lakers piece back too (one of the rookies or mcroberts). i would love to get pau or luis scola, but my problem with those guys is they are old. this is why i would focus on bargnani.


bargs is interesting, not too sure if TO would trade him though. but a **** stretch 4/5 on this team would create so much **** space, man. i think bargs makes like 10 mill a year so I'm not sure how to make salaries work.


i wonder if they would do amare + throw in (maybe fields or toney) for bargnani and calderon. i think the salaries work (didn't check though). i think bargnani is actually the most ideal power forward to put next to carmelo this side of dirk nowitzki.


I actually think Toronto WOULD do that deal.

I would have to think alot about it though, Bargs deal is extremely long.
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Re: Amare and Shumpert for Pau 

Post#66 » by Marty McFly » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:01 pm

knicksosmoove wrote:
REVOLVER wrote:
knicksosmoove wrote:i would LOVE to pair Pau with Carmelo. Love Pau's game. smart, smart player with a lot of finesse, and he's ambidextrous and huge. I would actually think about that trade if we got another lakers piece back too (one of the rookies or mcroberts). i would love to get pau or luis scola, but my problem with those guys is they are old. this is why i would focus on bargnani.


bargs is interesting, not too sure if TO would trade him though. but a **** stretch 4/5 on this team would create so much **** space, man. i think bargs makes like 10 mill a year so I'm not sure how to make salaries work.


i wonder if they would do amare + throw in (maybe fields or toney) for bargnani and calderon. i think the salaries work (didn't check though). i think bargnani is actually the most ideal power forward to put next to carmelo this side of dirk nowitzki.


yeah, stat and toney for bargs and calderon works. even then we'd be able to sign nash to the vet min next year right?

a calde/nash pg rotation would be pretty good. they'e both pedestrian defenders, but its better then not having a pg.

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I actually think Toronto WOULD do that deal.

I would have to think alot about it though, Bargs deal is extremely long.


bargs deal is as long as stat's.
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Re: Amare and Shumpert for Pau 

Post#67 » by knicksosmoove » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:01 pm

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i wonder if they would do amare + throw in (maybe fields or toney) for bargnani and calderon. i think the salaries work (didn't check though). i think bargnani is actually the most ideal power forward to put next to carmelo this side of dirk nowitzki.


I actually think Toronto WOULD do that deal.

I would have to think alot about it though, Bargs deal is extremely long.


even better i say. i know people don't like bargnani because he is considered a bust for a first pick, but i think getting him would be an excellent decision. that would give us a front court of carmelo, bargnani, and tyson. that front court fits extremely well and is rather young too. i think in many ways a stretch four with a mid post game is the perfect player to put next to carmelo. either bargnani will force a big defender away from the basket or carmelo will be able to pass out of the post to bargnani who will be guarded by no one or a small defender. that would be the bread and butter, but bargnani can also play in the post and carmelo can play on the perimeter so they could switch off too.

also, bargnani gets a bit of a bad rep where people think he's channing frye. bargnani will actually post up from time to time (well so did frye his rookie season . . .).
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Re: Amare and Shumpert for Pau 

Post#68 » by KnicksScholar24 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:29 pm

I would trade Stoudemire for Gasol... no Shumpert. Even if it's just so I don't have to watch Amare's defense anymore.
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Re: Amare and Shumpert for Pau 

Post#69 » by melo mvp 15 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:23 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:Lakers might be the only team willing to trade for Amare because they seem determined to get rid of Pau and still want a star in return. Although I don't know how much sense having Shumpert back up Kobe would make, and he can't play PG either.

Amare, Toney, Landry for Pau, Darius Morris, Andrew Goudelock. That would be sweet.

Now that I'd do. I read that LA wants to trade Pau for depth if they can't get Dwight... This trade turns Pau into a PF that will play the same minutes (and is younger albeit with a bad injury history) AND 2 rotation players.

Pau is a much better fit next to Melo and knows how to play with a center so he'd probably fit with Tyson. That being said, Idk if he's mentally strong enough for NY.
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Re: Amare and Shumpert for Pau 

Post#70 » by Rasho Brezec » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:50 pm

He had Kobe banging his ex and Lakers trying to trade him twice in the last month and he's still out there playing like he's supposed to, not pouting on the court like a certain other PF. I think he'd do fine in NY.
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Re: Amare and Shumpert for Pau 

Post#71 » by BKAY » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:57 pm

I don't like Pau in NY. I think he would get eaten alive by the media over here.
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Re: Amare and Shumpert for Pau 

Post#72 » by WhenWillItEnd » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:58 pm

Pau can pass, has a post game, and a high IQ.

That alone makes him worth the trade.
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Re: Amare and Shumpert for Pau 

Post#73 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:00 am

WhenWillItEnd wrote:Pau can pass, has a post game, and a high IQ.

That alone makes him worth the trade.


Amar'e for Pau straight up...sure. But not with Shumpert. Absolutely not.
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Would you do this trade? 

Post#74 » by Kobe System » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:11 am

Lakers: Pau Gasol. Metta World Peace, Devin Ebanks and Darius Morris

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Knicks: Amare Stoudamire, iman Shumpert and Landry Fields.


I honestly don't know if Lakers will pull the trigger on this. I just wanna know your opinion as a Knicks fan.
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Re: Would you do this trade? 

Post#75 » by Sideline Story » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:16 am

It'll never happen, but I'd do it.
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Re: Would you do this trade? 

Post#76 » by Ron1 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:17 am

Black Mamba II wrote:Lakers: Pau Gasol. Metta World Peace, Devin Ebanks and Darius Morris

for

Knicks: Amare Stoudamire, iman Shumpert and Landry Fields.


I honestly don't know if Lakers will pull the trigger on this. I just wanna know your opinion as a Knicks fan.

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Re: Would you do this trade? 

Post#77 » by JayD » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:18 am

Yep.
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Re: Would you do this trade? 

Post#78 » by Ron1 » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:19 am

Black Mamba II wrote:Lakers: Pau Gasol. Metta World Peace, Devin Ebanks and Darius Morris

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Knicks: Amare Stoudamire, iman Shumpert and Landry Fields.


I honestly don't know if Lakers will pull the trigger on this. I just wanna know your opinion as a Knicks fan.

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Re: Would you do this trade? 

Post#79 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:22 am

Why complicate it, just make it Amar'e for Pau.

We can't afford to take on Artest contract anyway.
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Re: Would you do this trade? 

Post#80 » by haterade » Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:33 am

No, Jerry West isn't our GM so you can't get all our young players.

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