Who would replace Felton? (Top 10 PGs)

[SportsFan88]

Wow, really.

The response to my legitimately in-depth post is "Lmao" and "no"?

Any insight on these statements, or are we going to magically acquire some incredible PG like Rondo.

Let's be realistic at least.

I personally think our PG when healthy are fine, but I agree with you that Tinsley can dish very very well. He would be a nice backup for the team. Why would they trade him though?

When all of their players are healthy, he is typically a DNP - Coaches Decision. That tells me he is most likely the 12th-15th man off the bench depending on the situation. A somewhat expendable player. Utah had a somewhat, less adequate player in camp by the name of Chris Quinn, who they cut right at the end. I was actually a big supporter of Quinn who, while mostly unimpressive, was still a solid pass-first point guard.

Tonight Both Mo Williams and Marvin Williams were injured, which gave Tinsley the opportunity to perform.

The bottom line is this...who would you rather have as your 15th man? Pointless, insignificant bust James White who is utterly useless on the court, or wily veteran Tinsley to tutor the young guys and provide some solid minutes? The decision seems clear to me.

And as far as Chris Quinn goes...say what you want, but he is the definition of a legit 15th man.

Rant over.

[KingzAndQueenz]

I agree, but why would they ever trade Jamal for James White?

[earthmansurfer]

I'd love to get Lin here, but we don't have what it takes to get a PG of that caliber...

Jeremy Lin #7 PG

PPG APG SPG 3P% FT%
12.0 6.3 1.8 .271 .818

Thanks.

Um, he is 24 years old, not 30 and essentially a 2nd year player...
Not bad stats at all and he sees the floor great AND is playing better as time goes on.

[Thugger HBC]

I don't see what is the love for Lowry, dude can't shoot, and is an average playmaker.

Watch some other teams' games moderator.

Lowry with his basketball IQ is probably 5-6 times better than Chucker Felton.

Can't be that smart, he forced his way to a terrible team, and he still can't shoot, unless 42% is good nowadays.

His threes is carrying his %, it should be worse.

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[Leaguepass]

At some point people will have to realize that the Knicks commited 80% of their caproom to their frontcourt and that Felton signed for 4mill. a year. At that cost you'd expect someone that can start and be solid more often than not. I don't know how much sense it makes posting a list of guys seeking at least 10mill. a year because we'll never be able to afford it until 2015.

[Leaguepass]

Lin is not the type of PG that'd mesh well here with the frontcourt talent.

[yaboynyp]

Jeremy Lin #7 PG

PPG APG SPG 3P% FT%
12.0 6.3 1.8 .271 .818

Thanks.

Um, he is 24 years old, not 30 and essentially a 2nd year player...
Not bad stats at all and he sees the floor great AND is playing better as time goes on.

Potential does nothing to help you win now…

[Wolfgang]

I figured out Dolan and Lins plan. He goes to the Rockets to improve his game, learn to work with another scorer(Harden) and become a legit star. Once his contract ends, he walks and comes back to NY in 2015. Creating a Linsanity 2.0 with Melo tag team to dominate the next decade.

The current roster the Knicks have interstingly can win a championship by the time Lins contract ends due to their old age. It makes sense that would be refill time in NY.

[nykballa2k4]

What we need to do is keep Felton, but give him a lesser role. He wants to win in NY. Other teams know if he gets traded what will happen. Prigioni is the trade chip. A guy like Prigioni might have appeal in places such as Toronto.

Novak, Shumpert, Prigioni for Lowry is about fair value.

Why would we get rid of Shumpert, who is our 2G for another PG? Felton is much more expendable than Shumpert is.

My logic is that in order to obtain good talent, you must sacrifice good talent. Lowry is not "on the block" for spare parts. Toronto paid a lot for him. Shumpert is our best asset outside of Melo (our vets and larger contracts carry little value) therefore to upgrade our pg, we have to give up a guy who may be a 20 mpg player for us THIS SEASON.

JR has emerged as a consistent player, Cope has taken part of Novaks role.
We can use a team of:

Chandler/Camby
Amare/Sheed
Melo/Cope
Kidd/JR
Lowry/Felton

Active: White, Brewer
IA: Kurt
After this deal we would have some roster space to play with, bring on Sims and perhaps add Bibby as a 4th pg in case of injury.

[Kentucky_Knick]

Kemba Walker has a top 10 PG? LOL

I'd take Grevis Vasquez over Kemba or Felton.

[CU_NY09]

Um, he is 24 years old, not 30 and essentially a 2nd year player...
Not bad stats at all and he sees the floor great AND is playing better as time goes on.

They left out his fg%, which has been trending upward. His stats have actually been trending upward. You know, that's usually what you want to see in a player; progress and improvement as the season progresses. Considering that he's shares 50% of his job with Harden/Parsons/Delfino, he's coming along better than I thought.

[ibraheim718]

Kemba Walker has a top 10 PG? LOL

I'd take Grevis Vasquez over Kemba or Felton.

I would too.. in a heartbeat.. he's having a very good under the radar year. We did have the chance to draft him also.

[knicksnyk]

Rather have Calderon than Lowry.

But it doesn't matter, Felton is our boss at the pg position.

LMAO you are not serious. Calderon plays absolutely no defense whatsoever he is worse than ray on D & that is saying something


i would take kyle over so many other pg's

kyle is a great player only thing is that he is injury prone. he is better than felton in everyway possible offensively & defensively. he will likely want big money next year tough so he may be out of our price range. i wanted kyle this summer.

i would also take lin back in a heart beat. and brandon jennings if i absolutely had too (but i don't like him)

[JustaKnickFan]

It's funny how people want Lowry, but a lot of his flaws are stuff that we get pissed off about Felton for. For example, Lowry occasionally will want to play hero-ball and chuck up 3s. Against NO in a 3pt game there was 50 seconds left and he had the ball, so he dribbled the shot clock out and shot a 3 that got blocked.

Like it or not, we're stuck with Felton because his contract is affordable. He's actually done a very good job at PG, but I guess people here need a clear-cut top 10 PG in the league to play PG for us, even though we just went from Bibby/TD to Felton.

[earthmansurfer]

Thanks.

Um, he is 24 years old, not 30 and essentially a 2nd year player...
Not bad stats at all and he sees the floor great AND is playing better as time goes on.

Potential does nothing to help you win now…

Then what about Houston? (and sounds like you forgot last year and how he turned the team around) - Houston was supposed to do nothing and is now "solidly" (position wise) in a playoff spot. They beat the Hawks last night, us twice and quite a few good other teams. Not bad at all for a young PG and a new young team. As another poster has said, his numbers are trending upwards (and Feltons downward)...

[xxrainnn]

PG IMO is the most overrated position. Having a guy at the point who dominates the ball doesn't win championships. All that's needed from the point is solid defense, ability to get the ball up the court pass pressure, run basic PNR, hit open shots, and break down the D every now and then. Felton provides all of those things, and he's a winner who does not shy away from the big moments. That's why I'm glad we spent our max money on a superstar wing (Melo) rather than superstar PG (Deron) because at the end of the day, it's the Jordans, Kobes, Wades, LeBrons, Pierces that are most likely to win championships.

[earthmansurfer]

PG IMO is the most overrated position. Having a guy at the point who dominates the ball doesn't win championships. All that's needed from the point is solid defense, ability to get the ball up the court pass pressure, run basic PNR, hit open shots, and break down the D every now and then. Felton provides all of those things, and he's a winner who does not shy away from the big moments. That's why I'm glad we spent our max money on a superstar wing (Melo) rather than superstar PG (Deron) because at the end of the day, it's the Jordans, Kobes, Wades, LeBrons, Pierces that are most likely to win championships.

Agreed with (bold). Hopefully, Felton starts to get a handle on that.

Ideally a PG brings the team together, gets the ball to the right players at the right times, etc. Kidd is a GREAT example of this. You can't teach floor vision though.

Having an all star player at other positions outside of PG can take the weight off the pg but having a GREAT pg sure doesn't hurt.

[siar617]

Kidd is the best pg on our team and Iman is the future. Felton is just holding it down for now

[yaboynyp]

Um, he is 24 years old, not 30 and essentially a 2nd year player...
Not bad stats at all and he sees the floor great AND is playing better as time goes on.

Potential does nothing to help you win now…

Then what about Houston? (and sounds like you forgot last year and how he turned the team around) - Houston was supposed to do nothing and is now "solidly" (position wise) in a playoff spot. They beat the Hawks last night, us twice and quite a few good other teams. Not bad at all for a young PG and a new young team. As another poster has said, his numbers are trending upwards (and Feltons downward)...

Does “Potential” get you buckets? How many points per game does potential average? How good is potential on defense?? Again “Potential” doesn’t put up numbers and Does Nothing To Help You Win Now. It’s similar to that player called “Capspace” Sounds good in theory but does nothing to hep you win..

Also the post says (Top 10 PG’s) If you think Lin is a top 10 pg than you need to go sit down somewhere and read a book. Felton’s stats are trending nowhere dood, he’s freakin injured..

Let me guess Lin’s stat are finally “trending” up from 12ppg because he’s finally over his injuries right?? But of course Lin is the only player that struggles do to injury or even gets injured. After all Ray hasn’t been playing banged up at all this season. Ray’s actually playing right now and is 100% healthy, he’s just invisible.

Lastly how hard is it to have your stats trend up when your a starting player on the team with the fastest pace in the league averaging 12ppg 6 assists and shooting 20 some percent from 3?? I mean “up” is the only option, were else is he going to go???

[Wolfgang]

What about Felton taking 3 shots after hurting his pinky? People defend his injury, but his brain on the other hand...