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OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season

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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#61 » by JDs_loot » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:25 am

hahahahaha you're saying people who call Lin and Gallo smarter players are playing the race card, how? By you saying that there is something wrong with people calling them smarter, you're playing the race card. What did you mean by different dynamic? Common man, you were playing the race card, just like I've seen you play it before, on the very issue of Gallo.
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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#62 » by JDs_loot » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:26 am

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Nope. I didn't claim that Lin and Gallo were more intelligent than other players. That might be construed as playing a race card, although code words often mask true intentions. You're barking up the wrong tree.


I'll say it. Jeremy Lin and Danillo Gallinari are much more intelligent than Wilson Chandler.


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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#63 » by Thugger HBC » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:30 am

There was a team full of role players who won an NBA title and repeated the return to such.

There is nothing wrong with being a role player, and the title does not just describe one specific skill.

Role players excel at staying within their capabilities.

To call Gallo a role player is actually a compliment, all it takes is to widen your own understanding.
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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#64 » by bklynstoops » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:37 am

Thugger HBC wrote:There was a team full of role players who won an NBA title and repeated the return to such.

There is nothing wrong with being a role player, and the title does not just describe one specific skill.

Role players excel at staying within their capabilities.

To call Gallo a role player is actually a compliment, all it takes is to widen your own understanding.


so Melo is an exceptional role player?

personally, I think all this labeling is overdone. A good player is a good player. They make a difference in the game.
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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#65 » by Thugger HBC » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:49 am

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Thugger HBC wrote:There was a team full of role players who won an NBA title and repeated the return to such.

There is nothing wrong with being a role player, and the title does not just describe one specific skill.

Role players excel at staying within their capabilities.

To call Gallo a role player is actually a compliment, all it takes is to widen your own understanding.


so Melo is an exceptional role player?

personally, I think all this labeling is overdone. A good player is a good player. They make a difference in the game.

I have no issues there, his role is to score alot, but since he is elite at that aspect, he is not a role player, otherwise he'd be Monta Ellis, which is a role player.

But here is the thing, call Gallo a "good player" and someone will debate that as well.

3pt shooters can make a difference in a game, Jared Jeffries made a difference in games.
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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#66 » by Falstaffxx » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:05 am

Thugger HBC wrote:There was a team full of role players who won an NBA title and repeated the return to such.

There is nothing wrong with being a role player, and the title does not just describe one specific skill.

Role players excel at staying within their capabilities.

To call Gallo a role player is actually a compliment, all it takes is to widen your own understanding.


I'd call Gallinari a very good role player (that's what I consider Tyson Chandler to be too, felt that way when we signed him and I AGREED with the signing).
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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#67 » by Capn'O » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:17 am

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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#69 » by Capn'O » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:17 am

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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#70 » by Capn'O » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:17 am

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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#71 » by Capn'O » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:19 am

Yeah - I think part of the problem is in the definition of a role player.

Definition 1: A role player is a guy that isn't called on to create offense - i.e. a spot shooter, defensive specialist, or otherwise guy with more limited offensive ability.

Definition 2: Role players are all but the top few players in the league - everyone but the all stars or everyone but the superstars.

Gallo doesn't fit into the first definition but certainly fits into the second. He has a number of different tools in the box. He can shoot the three. He can drive on you. Score off the dribble. He'll get to the line. He is a good defender. So it's definitely a more complete game than definition 1 but not quite an all star (though if he starts well next year he has a chance to make the game).
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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#72 » by AllanHoustonFan » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:24 am

How the hell did this topic segue from Gallo's clutchness to race and intelligence?

*looks through thread, notices the usual suspects posted*

Oh, it makes sense now.
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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#73 » by Drun53 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:29 am

Capn'O wrote:Yeah - I think part of the problem is in the definition of a role player.

Definition 1: A role player is a guy that isn't called on to create offense - i.e. a spot shooter, defensive specialist, or otherwise guy with more limited offensive ability.

Definition 2: Role players are all but the top few players in the league - everyone but the all stars or everyone but the superstars.

Gallo doesn't fit into the first definition but certainly fits into the second. He has a number of different tools in the box. He can shoot the three. He can drive on you. Score off the dribble. He'll get to the line. He is a good defender. So it's definitely a more complete game than definition 1 but not quite an all star (though if he starts well next year he has a chance to make the game).



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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#74 » by Shemy » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:41 am

21shumpshumpst wrote:
GONYK wrote:Not surprised.

He always had a bit of the clutch gene when he was here.

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He certainly wasnt hitting buzzer beaters but theirs plenty of times during his time here with a minute under he would hit a dagger to kill the game off or put us ahead in the lead

In terms of the game clock running down to the last very seconds then I agree he certainly has t done that
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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#75 » by 21shumpshumpst » Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:56 am

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GONYK wrote:Not surprised.

He always had a bit of the clutch gene when he was here.

green font?

He certainly wasnt hitting buzzer beaters but theirs plenty of times during his time here with a minute under he would hit a dagger to kill the game off or put us ahead in the lead

In terms of the game clock running down to the last very seconds then I agree he certainly has t done that

We were a 26-24 or so team when he left. We were a losing team the years before that. If he was "clutch" it sure didn't show on the win column.
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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#76 » by GONYK » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:00 am

21shumpshumpst wrote:We were a 26-24 or so team when he left. We were a losing team the years before that. If he was "clutch" it sure didn't show on the win column.


Sure it did. We would have had more losses without him.
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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#77 » by 21shumpshumpst » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:02 am

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21shumpshumpst wrote:We were a 26-24 or so team when he left. We were a losing team the years before that. If he was "clutch" it sure didn't show on the win column.


Sure it did. We would have had more losses without him.

Please post links to games where he was the reason we won. Where it was without a doubt his shot that was a backbreaker.

Btw no matter what that list says i will not be calling LMA a clutch player anytime soon. So to me that list is faulty.

Btw Gallo played 157 games or so with the Knicks so I am sure there will be plenty of games to pick from if what you are saying is true.
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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#78 » by GONYK » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:05 am

21shumpshumpst wrote:
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21shumpshumpst wrote:We were a 26-24 or so team when he left. We were a losing team the years before that. If he was "clutch" it sure didn't show on the win column.


Sure it did. We would have had more losses without him.

Please post links to games where he was the reason we won. Where it was without a doubt his shot that was a backbreaker.

Btw no matter what that list says i will not be calling LMA a clutch player anytime soon. So to me that list is faulty.


You want me to do exhaustive research to disprove your incredibly shallow rebuttal?

No thanks :lol:

I remember plenty of games where Gallo hit big shots to put games away. The kid was inconsistent, but he had a flair for the big moment. I'm not surprised he's on the list.

I don't really need to analyze it further than that
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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#79 » by JDs_loot » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:18 am

^^^^ What you're saying is false. Gallo did not hit a lot of big shots for us.
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Re: OT: Gallo 3rd most clutch this season 

Post#80 » by 21shumpshumpst » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:19 am

GONYK wrote:
21shumpshumpst wrote:Please post links to games where he was the reason we won. Where it was without a doubt his shot that was a backbreaker.

Btw no matter what that list says i will not be calling LMA a clutch player anytime soon. So to me that list is faulty.


You want me to do exhaustive research to disprove your incredibly shallow rebuttal?

No thanks :lol:

I remember plenty of games where Gallo hit big shots to put games away. The kid was inconsistent, but he had a flair for the big moment. I'm not surprised he's on the list.

I don't really need to analyze it further than that

So you have nothing to back up your claim. Got it. Glad we had this chat.

Here is what I have to back up my claim. No player can be called clutch if we keep losing and if the margin of losses or victory is that wide.

08-09 32-50
09-10 29-53
10-11 28-26 before he got traded

Oh the biggest piece of evidence that this is a bs list is La Marcus Aldrige is on that list higher than KD. Please go to any board not just this and ask them if LMA is the 2nd most clutch player in the NBA ahead of Durant, then walk away as everyone points and laughs at you.

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