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With the 4th pick in the NBA draft, the New York Knicks select...

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With the 4th pick in the NBA draft, the New York Knicks select...

Emmanuel Mudiay
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69%
Mario Hezonja
15
6%
Willie Cauley-Stein
19
7%
Justise Winslow
24
9%
Kristaps Porzingis
26
10%
 
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Post#61 » by NoLayupRule » Wed May 20, 2015 4:58 pm

knickabocker88 wrote:So the Lakers have Mudiay 2nd on their Big Board

So Eddy Curry 2.0 can still be had

funny thing is that the Lakers and Phily have both talked quite a bit about Mudiay and Russell

If Towns goes 1 okafor could in fact drop

which would be amazing
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Post#62 » by newyorker4ever » Wed May 20, 2015 5:00 pm

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GettinitDone wrote:Is it possible considering how bad our luck has been when it comes to draft that all top 4: KAT, Okafor, Russell, Mudiay are all gone when it's our to pick? lol


Actually, yes there is a scenario that makes this possible.

One (or more) of the top 4 prospects gets a serious injury/red flag before the draft (ala Embiid and Noel). Said injured player then falls to #4, where we must either take damaged goods or go with a lower upside player, such as WCS or Winslow.

With our luck, I am expecting this scenario to happen. :banghead:

Who cares cause J.Winslow and K.Porzingis would be there and both will be good NBA players.
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Re: With the 4th pick in the NBA draft, the New York Knicks select... 

Post#63 » by moocow007 » Wed May 20, 2015 5:03 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
knickabocker88 wrote:So the Lakers have Mudiay 2nd on their Big Board

So Eddy Curry 2.0 can still be had

funny thing is that the Lakers and Phily have both talked quite a bit about Mudiay and Russell

If Towns goes 1 okafor could in fact drop

which would be amazing


Yeah. I would not be upset at all if we ended up with Okafor. I have Okafor 2nd.
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Re: With the 4th pick in the NBA draft, the New York Knicks select... 

Post#64 » by moocow007 » Wed May 20, 2015 5:05 pm

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Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:One thing y'all might do is trade down a little, maybe with the Nuggets, and secure Faried while having the chance at drafting Willie Cauley-Stein or Myles Turner. Both are the type of bigs who could flourish in the triangle. Turner is a smart dude.

Just a thought.

I do think there is a high probability that the knicks take Lawson and the 7th pick for the 4th

Nuggs want done with Lawson and Mudiay would be a good replacement


Lawson reminds me of a supped up Ray Felton.
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Post#65 » by ctorres » Wed May 20, 2015 5:05 pm

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bballoctober wrote:Show some freaking gratitude, this is our highest pick in 30 years, let's pull our bootstrap and get to work!!!!

This is our highest pick in 30 years only because we were the second worst team in the league, and we still got the worst end of the stick.


Worst end of the stick would have been the 5th pick.

4th pick leans towards the middle of the stick, which means it's not as likely to break off from the stick as each end of the stick would be.
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Post#66 » by Celo » Wed May 20, 2015 5:06 pm

Mudiay is a no-brainer for me. Kid can flat out ball. The only question I have is, can he coexist with Melo?
Manny needs as many touches as possible to be effective, I feel like this is not granted with Melo on the floor. One might mention Melo's team USA time, where he has shown how effective he is off the ball. But do you really think he's going to sacrifice touches to a rookie PG?
It would be foolish to trade him or our pick. There's obviously some bust potential, but if used correctly, he can be the steal of the draft. He has all the tools (besides his jumpshot, which is not totally broken, just needs a little more work) to be an Allstar someday if he'll continue to work on his game.
I can see him winning ROY if we'd trade him to a team playing an uptempo-style, posting up Tyreke Evans'esque rookie season numbers. So please, let us for once be patient, and stop making foolish trade :pray:
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Post#67 » by knickabocker88 » Wed May 20, 2015 5:08 pm

moocow007 wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:One thing y'all might do is trade down a little, maybe with the Nuggets, and secure Faried while having the chance at drafting Willie Cauley-Stein or Myles Turner. Both are the type of bigs who could flourish in the triangle. Turner is a smart dude.

Just a thought.

I do think there is a high probability that the knicks take Lawson and the 7th pick for the 4th

Nuggs want done with Lawson and Mudiay would be a good replacement


Lawson reminds me of a supped up Ray Felton.


Didn't Ty Struggle under Shaw?
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Post#68 » by Concrete Jungle » Wed May 20, 2015 5:08 pm

Ask yourself this does Philly do Mudiay and Hardaway for Russell?
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Post#69 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Wed May 20, 2015 5:09 pm

knickabocker88 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:I do think there is a high probability that the knicks take Lawson and the 7th pick for the 4th

Nuggs want done with Lawson and Mudiay would be a good replacement


Lawson reminds me of a supped up Ray Felton.


Didn't Ty Struggle under Shaw?


I'm thinking Galloway fits Philly Jax's scheme more than Lawson, even though Lawson is obviously more talented.
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Post#70 » by NoLayupRule » Wed May 20, 2015 5:18 pm

Concrete Jungle wrote:Ask yourself this does Philly do Mudiay and Hardaway for Russell?

I did

he doesn't
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Post#71 » by NoLayupRule » Wed May 20, 2015 5:19 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
knickabocker88 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Lawson reminds me of a supped up Ray Felton.


Didn't Ty Struggle under Shaw?


I'm thinking Galloway fits Philly Jax's scheme more than Lawson, even though Lawson is obviously more talented.

agreed

I hope if anything we look at a big SG like Stevenson to run with Mudiay and Galloway
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Post#72 » by thelastpope » Wed May 20, 2015 5:46 pm

Winslow, can shoot the mid range and 3, can run the pnr, has a mean euro step, plays defense, long arms

Russell if he falls = basically a better version of Winslow
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Post#73 » by knicks94 » Wed May 20, 2015 5:50 pm

If it isn't Mudiay, Russell or Winslow this draft will be a failure.
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Post#74 » by SelbyCobra » Wed May 20, 2015 5:52 pm

Red Vines wrote:I have a feeling Mudiay will go #3, teams tend to go with the stronger, more explosive athlete. Russell or Mudiay.


Agreed. Mudiay is perfect for the private workout process; he's aces across the board there and will emerge as a top 3 guy.
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Post#75 » by moocow007 » Wed May 20, 2015 5:53 pm

knickabocker88 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:I do think there is a high probability that the knicks take Lawson and the 7th pick for the 4th

Nuggs want done with Lawson and Mudiay would be a good replacement


Lawson reminds me of a supped up Ray Felton.


Didn't Ty Struggle under Shaw?


He struggled a little in Shaw's slow down system. Lawson (like Felton) works better when the pace is faster IMO where their barrel to the basket style is more condusive for.
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Post#76 » by DrCoach » Wed May 20, 2015 6:03 pm

omerome wrote:Let me state that in no way am I saying that Mudiay will be the caliber of Kobe, but it makes me wonder.

What was the reason why Kobe fell so far in his draft? Was it because he was a poor shooter?

If Mudiay's criticism is his shooting, I don't see why that can improve. I do remember guys like Michael Redd who wasn't great shooters at the beginning become very good ones later in their career.

I mean look at Ariza. He drastically improved on his shooting when he was originally drafted as a defensive player. Mudiay can improve, too.



Kobe was a skinny HS kid when taking HS players wasn't envogue
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Post#77 » by NoLayupRule » Wed May 20, 2015 6:21 pm

moocow007 wrote:
knickabocker88 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Lawson reminds me of a supped up Ray Felton.


Didn't Ty Struggle under Shaw?


He struggled a little in Shaw's slow down system. Lawson (like Felton) works better when the pace is faster IMO where their barrel to the basket style is more condusive for.

yeah

even though lawson can shoot and penetrate I don't see Jackson falling in love with him and his lack of size

we might actually keep this pick!
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Post#78 » by bballoctober » Wed May 20, 2015 7:49 pm

thelastpope wrote:Winslow, can shoot the mid range and 3, can run the pnr, has a mean euro step, plays defense, long arms

Russell if he falls = basically a better version of Winslow

But they are different in the fact that Russell is a combo guard while Winslow ia wing SG/SF who can end up playing in the post because of his strength.
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Post#79 » by Besart19 » Wed May 20, 2015 8:42 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
Besart19 wrote:If Minny picks Okafor or Towns => we pick Mudiay or Russell
If Lakers picks Mudiay or Russell => we pick Towns or Okafor

all the 4 options are possible... I'm not worried about these 4 prospects... I'm worried about any silly move from our FO

me too

its pretty straight up

if there is a surprise in the draft - either Lakers going small or Phili taking Mudiay or anyone top 3 taking a euro or Winslow or someone - then you pounce

But if it all plays out as planned then you take Mudiay, you fill out the roster from there with a solid backcourt of Mudiay, Galloway, Shved, Calderon and Hardaway. You spend on the front court and we expect we all know that that player is Monroe.


Mudiay/Gallo
D,Green/Shved
J.Butler/Brewer
Anthony/Bass
Ajinca/Aldrich

or

Calderon/Gallo/A.Miller
Mudiay/Shved/Thanasis
D.Green/Timmy/Early
Carmelo/Lou/Thomas
Gasol/Ajinca/Aldrich
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Post#80 » by Normalyute » Wed May 20, 2015 9:17 pm

If Philly is set on getting a point guard, maybe Phil can ask his girl to pull some strings and pick Russell for us at 2. which will then force Philly to pick Mudiay at 3 and we can then pick Ok4 with the 4th pick and then trade it to the Lakers.

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