OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread

[thebuzzardman]

Ben Carson is leading the Uncle Tom Express at this momment.

What do you call those that vote for Hillary Clinton then? She's the one that passed that crime bill and called African Americans 'super predators'

She passed the crime bill while not holding any type of office? How'd she manage to pull that off?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/02/12/1994-crime-bill-haunts-clinton-and-sanders-as-criminal-justice-reform-rises-to-top-in-democratic-contest/?tid=a_inl

[IllmaticHandler]

What do you call those that vote for Hillary Clinton then? She's the one that passed that crime bill and called African Americans 'super predators'

None of these Mofo's have our best interest in mind. You think I care for Hilary?. Man Please.

I rest my case you just dodged my question completely. whatever.

I think your slow . I answered your question in a nutshell. You assumed I must of been some Hillary supporter.

[thebuzzardman]

What do you call those that vote for Hillary Clinton then? She's the one that passed that crime bill and called African Americans 'super predators'

She passed the crime bill while not holding any type of office? How'd she manage to pull that off?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/02/12/1994-crime-bill-haunts-clinton-and-sanders-as-criminal-justice-reform-rises-to-top-in-democratic-contest/?tid=a_inl

"As first lady, Hillary Clinton advocated for the bill, and critics say she bears responsibility for the way it has resulted in a disproportionate number of African Americans and Hispanics being ensnared in the criminal justice system. Mandatory minimum sentences, particularly for nonviolent drug crimes, were disproportionately meted out to black and Hispanic offenders. African Americans and Hispanics also are more likely than white people to be stopped by police"


Sanders voted for it too. Playing on peoples fears of minority crime is always good for cheap votes.

[E-Balla]

She passed the crime bill while not holding any type of office? How'd she manage to pull that off?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/02/12/1994-crime-bill-haunts-clinton-and-sanders-as-criminal-justice-reform-rises-to-top-in-democratic-contest/?tid=a_inl

"As first lady, Hillary Clinton advocated for the bill, and critics say she bears responsibility for the way it has resulted in a disproportionate number of African Americans and Hispanics being ensnared in the criminal justice system. Mandatory minimum sentences, particularly for nonviolent drug crimes, were disproportionately meted out to black and Hispanic offenders. African Americans and Hispanics also are more likely than white people to be stopped by police"


Sanders voted for it too. Playing on peoples fears of minority crime is always good for cheap votes.

So I'll ask one more time: How did Hillary Clinton vote for a bill while not holding any type of public office?

[Thugger HBC]

Trump is nothing more than an opportunist who uses the media no different than an evangelist preacher preys on the weak. he certainly doesn't believe what he is saying and his life doesn't either for the most part.

He's saying and doing whatever it takes to get votes, and he's probably the most informed out of all the candidates on how to do it.

He knows there are large segments in America that will support such tactics due to knowing that a person like Trump wont improve their lot in life but also might not hurt it. That's enough to garner votes at this point in history.

Even Trump probably cant believe folks still fall for these tactics.

[IllmaticHandler]

alot People dont see the Game American Politics Plays.


In 2008 Obama's biggest competition on the other side was a Old man and a Woman. Now Trump's biggest comp on the the other side, is an Old Man and a Woman. It seems to be the theme to get the person they want in office. I personally fully expect Trump to be the next president.

[IllmaticHandler]

Lets not even talk about the Infamous 2000 Election with Bush. This **** is all game and people eat it up like dinner. Very little about the presidency of the United States of America is Legit.

[islanders11040]

He's smarter than his base supporters, thats for sure. If he made it to the White House I think he'd be well controlled, so would just be more of the same.

[Moose]

He's smarter than his base supporters, thats for sure. If he made it to the White House I think he'd be well controlled, so would just be more of the same.

As much as I dislike this whole situation, I'm pretty sure Trump was being facetious.

I think this whole thing is embarrassing. We have no one to vote for. Even though Obama wasn't ready for office, and I disagree with plenty of his positions, at least he symbolized something greater. It made sense.

None of this makes sense. In my opinion, the two people who are going to win the primaries, are not good people.

We are truly voting between a giant douche and a turd sandwich.

[DeanTheDream]

The best thing about Trump is that all the bigots are coming out of the closet. It's useful to know.

And like Fat Kat said, his strategy was bound to work after a black president. He'll get his ass whooped in the general election and it will cost the Republicans in congress. Far right supporters are always the loudest but the median voter will be scared terrified of him.

Just an FYI - he's the most moderate of the republican candidates - and is attracting the independents and moderate democrats. Hardly a far right guy.

[thebuzzardman]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/02/12/1994-crime-bill-haunts-clinton-and-sanders-as-criminal-justice-reform-rises-to-top-in-democratic-contest/?tid=a_inl

"As first lady, Hillary Clinton advocated for the bill, and critics say she bears responsibility for the way it has resulted in a disproportionate number of African Americans and Hispanics being ensnared in the criminal justice system. Mandatory minimum sentences, particularly for nonviolent drug crimes, were disproportionately meted out to black and Hispanic offenders. African Americans and Hispanics also are more likely than white people to be stopped by police"


Sanders voted for it too. Playing on peoples fears of minority crime is always good for cheap votes.

So I'll ask one more time: How did Hillary Clinton vote for a bill while not holding any type of public office?

She didn't vote but advocated for it as first lady

[nykballa2k4]

The guy who attacked the Planned Parenthood Clinic in Colorado killing 3 people and injuring 9 was a conservative Christian who did what he did because the people in the clinic didn't believe in his views.

The way religion is indoctrinated in people (portrayed as an absolute belief system) incites extremism. That is why it is important to avoid painting with a wide brush. By in large, people are good enough. This is why we need to have a strong middle leader. Not strong like Putin, but strong like America has been in the past.

Human beings will always run towards extremism. It isn't only religion. Communism...Facism...and so on.

Point is, religion gets more of a bad rap here than it deserves. It's a force for good; it's been a force for bad. Humans can use any system each way.

Totally agree, my first post in this thread I specifically pointed this out as well. Religion is, as you are saying, one dimension of a cultural group. I would add sports fandom, area of residence or upbringing, family, clubs, organizations, areas of work, all of these are groups which may have a vocal extremist subpopulation.

[AllanH20]

The best thing about Trump is that all the bigots are coming out of the closet. It's useful to know.

And like Fat Kat said, his strategy was bound to work after a black president. He'll get his ass whooped in the general election and it will cost the Republicans in congress. Far right supporters are always the loudest but the median voter will be scared terrified of him.

Just an FYI - he's the most moderate of the republican candidates - and is attracting the independents and moderate democrats. Hardly a far right guy.

Actually, he's not attracting independents or moderate democrats. He's attracting some working class white democrats but the democrats have been losing that group for two decades. And a large portion of his supporters are far right, he certainly has more of them than Rubio and Cruz. Cruz has a lot of religious nuts but they're not as crazy as some of the people backing Trump.

[The Infamous1]

He's basically running Reagan's 1980 campaign but with over racism instead of the subtle type

[Riot Randolph]

**** Trump

He speaks to the ignorance of America. A large portion of his campaign is based off racism.

Google the word 'nationalism'

Different than racism.

Ignorance is accepting and trusting in the leadership we've had for many years now. Before Obama and before Bush. Before both Bush's. Ignorance is firmly believing Hilary Clinton is going to help right the ship. Ignorance is believing that socialism is the answer. There are serious, SERIOUS issues at play here, that most Americans are still completely unaware of. Trump may not be an angel, but he is by far the most believable candidate I've ever seen, and at least on the surface, he represents a possible answer to some of the atrocities committed by "the establishment" (I love how that's just a media buzzword now)

Trump is funding his own campaign, speaking out against corporations, special interests, the lying media and lying politicians... and both sides are scared of him and are trying to sabatoge him. That's a red badge of honor for me.

It's funny.... people have been laughing at "conspiracy theorists" for years, and now much of those theories are playing out in plain sight, and you even have globalists like Hilary Clinton admitting that "the economy is rigged" as part of her campaign. It's a joke.

I thought for sure Alex Jones of all people would find a way to say that Trump is some how an Illuminati puppet designed to disrupt or whatever..... but even Alex Jones has thrown his full support behind Trump. Something big is happening here.

When Trump talks about people who come up to him and tell him they've never voted in their lives, but are finally going to vote now.... I'm one of those people.

Nationalism is saying white race is superior...racism is saying Mexicans are rapists...

[Phish Tank]

i'd like the GOP nomination to be determined in a boxing ring aired on PPV. Trump vs Cruz & Rubio. They should duke it out until someone comes out as the victor. Same thing with the cruz/rubio supporters vs trump supporters (jeffrey lord, katrina pierson, kayleigh whatever-her-last name is).

Whoever wins the fight wins.

And have Don King promote it.

This fight will be bigger than the Thrilla in Manila


This is entertainment, ain't it?

[Riot Randolph]

Trump is nothing more than an opportunist who uses the media no different than an evangelist preacher preys on the weak. he certainly doesn't believe what he is saying and his life doesn't either for the most part.

He's saying and doing whatever it takes to get votes, and he's probably the most informed out of all the candidates on how to do it.

He knows there are large segments in America that will support such tactics due to knowing that a person like Trump wont improve their lot in life but also might not hurt it. That's enough to garner votes at this point in history.

Even Trump probably cant believe folks still fall for these tactics.

comeon man ...the republicans have long had frank luntz in there corner the god father of crafting messages that resonate

[islanders11040]

I want Drumpf or Sanders right off the bat. Clinton is the feminists, BLM darling though. She is all about corporations and continuing Obama's disaster.

Trump is at least honest and Anti PC/Feminists/BLM/Liberals. I love that is is a man's man. I do hate his corporate aganda.

Sanders is wonderful but he is all about feminists and liberals. I hated how he bows to them.

In the end I must pick Drumpf. The positives outweighs the negatives. He is PRO-MEN and is at least HONEST compared to the other choices. But if Sanders wins I am happy, but worry about men as a whole.

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[Riot Randolph]

**** Trump

He speaks to the ignorance of America. A large portion of his campaign is based off racism.

Google the word 'nationalism'

Different than racism.

Ignorance is accepting and trusting in the leadership we've had for many years now. Before Obama and before Bush. Before both Bush's. Ignorance is firmly believing Hilary Clinton is going to help right the ship. Ignorance is believing that socialism is the answer. There are serious, SERIOUS issues at play here, that most Americans are still completely unaware of. Trump may not be an angel, but he is by far the most believable candidate I've ever seen, and at least on the surface, he represents a possible answer to some of the atrocities committed by "the establishment" (I love how that's just a media buzzword now)

Trump is funding his own campaign, speaking out against corporations, special interests, the lying media and lying politicians... and both sides are scared of him and are trying to sabatoge him. That's a red badge of honor for me.

It's funny.... people have been laughing at "conspiracy theorists" for years, and now much of those theories are playing out in plain sight, and you even have globalists like Hilary Clinton admitting that "the economy is rigged" as part of her campaign. It's a joke.

I thought for sure Alex Jones of all people would find a way to say that Trump is some how an Illuminati puppet designed to disrupt or whatever..... but even Alex Jones has thrown his full support behind Trump. Something big is happening here.

When Trump talks about people who come up to him and tell him they've never voted in their lives, but are finally going to vote now.... I'm one of those people.

I have a bridge to sell you...

[The Infamous1]

Also ill never forgive him with his actions with the Central Park 5