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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#61 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:35 pm

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Marty McFly wrote:the last jedi is obviously a nod to luke. i don't know that there's much to read into that. same way that a new hope was luke, a phantom menace was palpatine.

Oscirus wrote:I don't see how people think Rey's a skywalker given:
1. Her accent.
2. The fact that the first movie never set up Luke having a kid
3. The fact that it would be so obvious that there would be no reason for bringing that secret over to the second film if she was.


1.what? :lol: c'mon. you know accents aren't inherited, bro.
2. well, luke was in the film for what, 2 minutes? also, it's somewhat implied. the whole, "That lightsaber was Luke's, and his father's before him, and now, it calls to you."
3. i mean, if it were that obvious then your second point is kinda redundant, isn't it?


1.You don't think accents are important in this universe? If that's the case, then why have Boyega speak in an american accent?
2.Luke was talked about all throughout the film. Yet there wasn't one mention of his having a kid.
3. Not at all, 2 has to do with the setup and this one has to do with it being obvious due to this being a series centered around the skywalkers.



For the record the dude that raised her, had a British Accent. The accent does not change that she can be his daughter. She was basically watched over like Luke was by Obi.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#62 » by Marty McFly » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:38 pm

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yoda speaking to luke.

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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#63 » by Oscirus » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:41 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:the last jedi is obviously a nod to luke. i don't know that there's much to read into that. same way that a new hope was luke, a phantom menace was palpatine.



1.what? :lol: c'mon. you know accents aren't inherited, bro.
2. well, luke was in the film for what, 2 minutes? also, it's somewhat implied. the whole, "That lightsaber was Luke's, and his father's before him, and now, it calls to you."
3. i mean, if it were that obvious then your second point is kinda redundant, isn't it?


1.You don't think accents are important in this universe? If that's the case, then why have Boyega speak in an american accent?
2.Luke was talked about all throughout the film. Yet there wasn't one mention of his having a kid.
3. Not at all, 2 has to do with the setup and this one has to do with it being obvious due to this being a series centered around the skywalkers.

1. it was a choice by boyega. it wasn't a choice daisy made.
2. the only reference to him were regarding the search for him. and the people who knew him were preoccupied with their pown personal issues.
3. there's been secrecy surrounding her family, and the hints that we have, point to luke. there's literally no reason for it to be a big deal if she's not a skywalker. no one is going to care if she's some mosture farmer's daughter who was just abandoned somewhere. beside's that, they're have been hints.


1. It was a choice by the director not by Boyega.
2. So when Han is expositing to Finn and Rey, you don't think that Luke's lost kid would've have come up in that convo?
3. Skywalkers and Solos aren't the only major families in this series.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#64 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:41 pm

Marty, you don't think it'd be even more crazy if she weren't a Skywalker? For those who watched the Clone Wars animated show, there were nods to Obi Wan and Satine potentially being something. I doubt they go that route, but I personally think it'd be cooler than simply saying she's a Skywalker or Kylo's sister.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#65 » by Oscirus » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:48 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:the last jedi is obviously a nod to luke. i don't know that there's much to read into that. same way that a new hope was luke, a phantom menace was palpatine.



1.what? :lol: c'mon. you know accents aren't inherited, bro.
2. well, luke was in the film for what, 2 minutes? also, it's somewhat implied. the whole, "That lightsaber was Luke's, and his father's before him, and now, it calls to you."
3. i mean, if it were that obvious then your second point is kinda redundant, isn't it?


1.You don't think accents are important in this universe? If that's the case, then why have Boyega speak in an american accent?
2.Luke was talked about all throughout the film. Yet there wasn't one mention of his having a kid.
3. Not at all, 2 has to do with the setup and this one has to do with it being obvious due to this being a series centered around the skywalkers.



For the record the dude that raised her, had a British Accent. The accent does not change that she can be his daughter. She was basically watched over like Luke was by Obi.


If that's the case didn't why doesn't Finn have a similar accent to his boss, since we can pretty much assume that she's been an authority figure of his for most of his life?
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#66 » by Marty McFly » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:50 pm

Oscirus wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
1.You don't think accents are important in this universe? If that's the case, then why have Boyega speak in an american accent?
2.Luke was talked about all throughout the film. Yet there wasn't one mention of his having a kid.
3. Not at all, 2 has to do with the setup and this one has to do with it being obvious due to this being a series centered around the skywalkers.

1. it was a choice by boyega. it wasn't a choice daisy made.
2. the only reference to him were regarding the search for him. and the people who knew him were preoccupied with their pown personal issues.
3. there's been secrecy surrounding her family, and the hints that we have, point to luke. there's literally no reason for it to be a big deal if she's not a skywalker. no one is going to care if she's some mosture farmer's daughter who was just abandoned somewhere. beside's that, they're have been hints.


1. It was a choice by the director not by Boyega.
2. So when Han is expositing to Finn and Rey, you don't think that Luke's lost kid would've have come up in that convo?
3. Skywalkers and Solos aren't the only major families in this series.


1.i read it was a choice by the actors. either way, it's absurd to assume accent has anything to do with heritage, unless the person in quesiton is being raised by someone with said accent.
2. why would he have known? ben wasn't fond of his father for a reason. he went back to doing what he did best. they weren't all sitting around having family dinners with luke and whatever family he may or may not have had. besides, this is info they may have wanted to save for another film.
3. the skywalkers are the main family of the main saga. it's about the skywalkers.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#67 » by Marty McFly » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:51 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:Marty, you don't think it'd be even more crazy if she weren't a Skywalker? For those who watched the Clone Wars animated show, there were nods to Obi Wan and Satine potentially being something. I doubt they go that route, but I personally think it'd be cooler than simply saying she's a Skywalker or Kylo's sister.

or she could be both. a skynobi.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#68 » by Oscirus » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:52 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:Marty, you don't think it'd be even more crazy if she weren't a Skywalker? For those who watched the Clone Wars animated show, there were nods to Obi Wan and Satine potentially being something. I doubt they go that route, but I personally think it'd be cooler than simply saying she's a Skywalker or Kylo's sister.


I'd go with the Kenobis. Some people are saying palpatine because of the way she was fighting, but I think that had more to do with her being used to fighting with a spear then an actual inherited fighting style.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#69 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:57 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:Marty, you don't think it'd be even more crazy if she weren't a Skywalker? For those who watched the Clone Wars animated show, there were nods to Obi Wan and Satine potentially being something. I doubt they go that route, but I personally think it'd be cooler than simply saying she's a Skywalker or Kylo's sister.

or she could be both. a skynobi.

I actually saw that earlier on Instagram and I'm 100% on board with that as well. I just want the universe to expand a bit and not keep it only Skywalker centric. I think part of the reason why Rogue One was so good was that it involved entirely new (main) characters.

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Knickstape1214 wrote:Marty, you don't think it'd be even more crazy if she weren't a Skywalker? For those who watched the Clone Wars animated show, there were nods to Obi Wan and Satine potentially being something. I doubt they go that route, but I personally think it'd be cooler than simply saying she's a Skywalker or Kylo's sister.


I'd go with the Kenobis. Some people are saying palpatine because of the way she was fighting, but I think that had more to do with her being used to fighting with a spear then an actual inherited fighting style.


Yeah, I think Ill and I had a PM conversation about the fighting style a while back. I can honestly say that aside from that and a few theories I've read online, it's one that is not talked about often. I think it's a particularly fun one because we all know who Palpatine was and his control of the force. Passing traits like that on to someone would make for an interesting story arc, as would Rey being a Kenobi.

Whatever she ends up being, I hope she doesn't align herself one faction over the other. I've always said that Jacen (and, to a lesser extent, Ben) along with Ahsoka and Qui Gon were awesome Jedi (for Jacen,when he was one) because they didn't always align themselves with every single code - they recognized that it is important to not be overcome by anger and fear, but that they can be used to pull from the force (Grey Jedis).
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#70 » by Oscirus » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:58 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:1. it was a choice by boyega. it wasn't a choice daisy made.
2. the only reference to him were regarding the search for him. and the people who knew him were preoccupied with their pown personal issues.
3. there's been secrecy surrounding her family, and the hints that we have, point to luke. there's literally no reason for it to be a big deal if she's not a skywalker. no one is going to care if she's some mosture farmer's daughter who was just abandoned somewhere. beside's that, they're have been hints.


1. It was a choice by the director not by Boyega.
2. So when Han is expositing to Finn and Rey, you don't think that Luke's lost kid would've have come up in that convo?
3. Skywalkers and Solos aren't the only major families in this series.


1.i read it was a choice by the actors. either way, it's absurd to assume accent has anything to do with heritage, unless the person in quesiton is being raised by someone with said accent.
2. why would he have known? ben wasn't fond of his father for a reason. he went back to doing what he did best. they weren't all sitting around having family dinners with luke and whatever family he may or may not have had. besides, this is info they may have wanted to save for another film.
3. the skywalkers are the main family of the main saga. it's about the skywalkers.


1. No it's not. It's absurd to ignore the fact that her accent coud be a hint to who or where she comes from.
2. He didn't go back to doing what he did until Ben turned to the dark side. Rey would've been born by then.
3. Even if Rey isn't a skywalker, Kylo is, she doesn't have to be.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#71 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:01 pm

You want a new theory - what about if she's an Antilles? Awesome piloting skills and Luke knows who she is. It'd be a cool nod to the previous films, but would expand the universe a bit more as well. I don't think I've seen that one anywhere.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#72 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:03 pm

Oscirus wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
1.You don't think accents are important in this universe? If that's the case, then why have Boyega speak in an american accent?
2.Luke was talked about all throughout the film. Yet there wasn't one mention of his having a kid.
3. Not at all, 2 has to do with the setup and this one has to do with it being obvious due to this being a series centered around the skywalkers.



For the record the dude that raised her, had a British Accent. The accent does not change that she can be his daughter. She was basically watched over like Luke was by Obi.


If that's the case didn't why doesn't Finn have a similar accent to his boss, since we can pretty much assume that she's been an authority figure of his for most of his life?



Thats his boss, not parent. We are talking about Rey formative years were with a Brit accent character on a father and daughter level. Im not saying she HAS to be Luke daughter, but her accent is not something can negate that either.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#73 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:03 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:You want a new theory - what about if she's an Antilles? Awesome piloting skills and Luke knows who she is. It'd be a cool nod to the previous films, but would expand the universe a bit more as well. I don't think I've seen that one anywhere.




I can see that as well.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#74 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:04 pm

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Knickstape1214 wrote:You want a new theory - what about if she's an Antilles? Awesome piloting skills and Luke knows who she is. It'd be a cool nod to the previous films, but would expand the universe a bit more as well. I don't think I've seen that one anywhere.




I can see that as well.


I'll admit that it's highly unlikely, but it's fun thinking about who her father / parents could be (besides the usual ones like Luke, Obi Wan, Han & Leia, etc).

I want a **** trailer. :banghead:
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#75 » by Marty McFly » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:05 pm

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1. No it's not. It's absurd to ignore the fact that her accent coud be a hint to who or where she comes from.
2. He didn't go back to doing what he did until Ben turned to the dark side. Rey would've been born by then.
3. They were the main family in the first two trilogies. Even if Rey isn't a skywalker, Kylo is, she doesn't have to be.


1. she's been on jakku since she was what, 5? who speaks with an english accent on jakku? unkar plutt, lor san tekka, sorta does as well. hey, maybe they got it on and made baby rey since they speak in that accent as well.
2. ben was with his uncle. han most definitely not being a stay at home husband while leia was off doing republic ****.
3. the entire 9 film saga is about the skywalkers. that's not up for debate. that's what george outlined. and she doesn't have to be, than the mystery of her parentage is pointless.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#76 » by Marty McFly » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:07 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Marty McFly wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:Marty, you don't think it'd be even more crazy if she weren't a Skywalker? For those who watched the Clone Wars animated show, there were nods to Obi Wan and Satine potentially being something. I doubt they go that route, but I personally think it'd be cooler than simply saying she's a Skywalker or Kylo's sister.

or she could be both. a skynobi.

I actually saw that earlier on Instagram and I'm 100% on board with that as well. I just want the universe to expand a bit and not keep it only Skywalker centric. I think part of the reason why Rogue One was so good was that it involved entirely new (main) characters.


i think it will once this saga ends.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#77 » by Oscirus » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:08 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:

For the record the dude that raised her, had a British Accent. The accent does not change that she can be his daughter. She was basically watched over like Luke was by Obi.


If that's the case didn't why doesn't Finn have a similar accent to his boss, since we can pretty much assume that she's been an authority figure of his for most of his life?



Thats his boss, not parent. We are talking about Rey formative years were with a Brit accent character on a father and daughter level. Im not saying she HAS to be Luke daughter, but her accent is not something can negate that either.


Given Finn's upbringing, wouldn't Phasma qualify as a parental figure?
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#78 » by IllmaticHandler » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:10 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:You want a new theory - what about if she's an Antilles? Awesome piloting skills and Luke knows who she is. It'd be a cool nod to the previous films, but would expand the universe a bit more as well. I don't think I've seen that one anywhere.




I can see that as well.


I'll admit that it's highly unlikely, but it's fun thinking about who her father / parents could be (besides the usual ones like Luke, Obi Wan, Han & Leia, etc).

I want a **** trailer. :banghead:



Prob not till the summer or spring.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#79 » by Oscirus » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:14 pm

Marty McFly wrote:
Oscirus wrote:
1. No it's not. It's absurd to ignore the fact that her accent coud be a hint to who or where she comes from.
2. He didn't go back to doing what he did until Ben turned to the dark side. Rey would've been born by then.
3. They were the main family in the first two trilogies. Even if Rey isn't a skywalker, Kylo is, she doesn't have to be.


1. she's been on jakku since she was what, 5? who speaks with an english accent on jakku? unkar plutt, lor san tekka, sorta does as well. hey, maybe they got it on and made baby rey since they speak in that accent as well.
2. ben was with his uncle. han most definitely not being a stay at home husband while leia was off doing republic ****.
3. the entire 9 film saga is about the skywalkers. that's not up for debate. that's what george outlined. and she doesn't have to be, than the mystery of her parentage is pointless.


1. Plenty of people on Jakku would speak with an english accent, it's an outpost. People come and go through there. Oh, you were trying to be funny. Well in that case :lol: you got me, good addition to the debate, mate.
2. Yea, that has nothing to do with his knowing about whether or not Luke had a kid.
3.Kylo is a skywalker, so the series would still be about them regardless of what Rey is.
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Re: OT: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi 

Post#80 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:16 pm

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Knickstape1214 wrote:
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I can see that as well.


I'll admit that it's highly unlikely, but it's fun thinking about who her father / parents could be (besides the usual ones like Luke, Obi Wan, Han & Leia, etc).

I want a **** trailer. :banghead:



Prob not till the summer or spring.


Meh, I know. Give me a teaser, at the very least. Trailers being released 10 months before the movie comes out isn't uncommon.

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